Las Vegas Monopoly Draft

Stupid question: what value is to have a 'pass option'?

Some areas of the board are more likely to be bad, so you can pass on picking, while you still move on the board to areas where you think your chances are better.
 
Stupid question: what value is to have a 'pass option'?
Avoid the drop box, mainly, but it can also be used to avoid picking a lower-quality player from a not-so-favourable box.

It also allows you to maintain your position on the board and hope for a better roll next time (if there will be a next time, that is).
 
Avoid the drop box, mainly, but it can also be used to avoid picking a lower-quality player from a not-so-favourable box.
You can't avoid the drop box with a pass, if you get on 13 you'll drop a player anyway
 
@DavidG rolls a

11 and lands in Box 13

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WTF are you doing?

You must roll all players.
 
Round 3 rolls participation:

MJJ/Viva - Pass(finished)
Skizzo/Annah - Play
Enigma - Pass(finished)
Tuppet - Pass
DavidG -Play - played box 13 (finished)
harms - Pass(finished)
Jayvin - Pass
PatMustard - Pass (finished)
 
You can't avoid the drop box with a pass, if you get on 13 you'll drop a player anyway
Probably means to pass when you are close to box 13, but either way even if you pass it you can land on #1 which is practically the same.
 
You can't avoid the drop box with a pass, if you get on 13 you'll drop a player anyway
Thats a big call !! I couldn't find the combination of pass and box 13 in the rules. Since you are passing without looking at rolls, it doesn't make sense to me to drop a player when you have passed. @Edgar Allan Pillow
WTF are you doing?

You must roll all players.
Think he has rolled for all the players, he is just letting some players know early.
 
You can't avoid the drop box with a pass, if you get on 13 you'll drop a player anyway
Wait, what? I'll have to drop a player even when I passed and it was that numpty Vivaj rolling the dice? :mad:
 
Wait, what? I'll have to drop a player even when I passed and it was that numpty Vivaj rolling the dice? :mad:
Nope. You choose the roll you want to play if you decide to play that roll you do what you do in the box you land in. If you have passed you disregard the box and only move through the board. That's what I gather from the rules and I think @Tuppet is correct
 
Thats a big call !! I couldn't find the combination of pass and box 13 in the rules. Since you are passing without looking at rolls, it doesn't make sense to me to drop a player when you have passed. @Edgar Allan Pillow

Think he has rolled for all the players, he is just letting some players know early.

Wait, what? I'll have to drop a player even when I passed and it was that numpty Vivaj rolling the dice? :mad:

Nope. You choose the roll you want to play if you decide to play that roll you do what you do in the box you land in. If you have passed you disregard the box and only move through the board. That's what I gather from the rules and I think @Tuppet is correct

R3: If you come to Box 13 during reinforcements you'll have to drop a player and it'll be counted as a successful turn :devil:

edit: no, it seems that I'm wrong, actually

- Landing on 1 and 13 will be considered valid (if you're playing that roll) but you would miss/drop a player.
 
BTW how is your team looking like now?

Di Stefano brings the incisiveness and goalscoring I wanted from Pelé and which Didí didn't offer... while not losing anything in the midfield equation. May actually turn out to be a better option, and I no longer have that possible clash between Didí and Rivelino in the inside left channel.

I would happily wrap up that side with Facchetti as a left back option (could use Zé against someone with no width on the right like onenil in the last round, but that's the most obvious tactical improvement/variation and there's a gulf between the options). Alternatively, a more classic winger like Dzajic down the left (I prefer the Facchetti-Rivelino option though).

Maybe someone like Rijkaard for Tito, but it's not like-for-like in terms of how they go about things (could defer all DLPing to Scirea though and have it as the more -insanely- defensively robust option). Maybe MvB/Müller for Seeler (for different reasons)? But not Ronaldo, Romario or Eusebio, for instance.

That's my issue with such wide open pools. I trust each and every one of these guys to perform superbly in their assigned roles and most "upgrading" is more pandering to the voters than real improvement, it feels wrong to cast aside great performers for shiny toys. Not that I wouldn't love Maldini, never got my hands on him :(

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SUBS: Domingos Da Guia, Claude Makelele, Didí, Zé Roberto
 
Yes. As you picked us to shadow you have to live through our bollocks just like you'd get knocked out if my first round blunder would sent me out

I didn't pick you to shadow, I gave my place to MJJ and decided to shadow him instead. You weren't part of the deal! :mad: LOL
 
Rolls for reinforcement round 3

Format:

Manager - C
urrent Box | Current Roll | Move to Box

MJJ/Viva - x | x | 13 (finished)
Skizzo/Annah - 6 | 6 | 12
Enigma - x | x | 14 (finished)
Tuppet - 8 | 8 | 16 (Pass)
DavidG - 2 | 11 | 13
harms - x | x | 20 (finished)
Jayvin - 19 | 8 | 3 (Pass)
PatMustard - x | x | 23 (finished)

@Annahnomoss @Skizzo
 
Di Stefano brings the incisiveness and goalscoring I wanted from Pelé and which Didí didn't offer... while not losing anything in the midfield equation. May actually turn out to be a better option, and I no longer have that possible clash between Didí and Rivelino in the inside left channel.

I would happily wrap up that side with Facchetti as a left back option (could use Zé against someone with no width on the right like onenil in the last round, but that's the most obvious tactical improvement/variation and there's a gulf between the options). Alternatively, a more classic winger like Dzajic down the left (I prefer the Facchetti-Rivelino option though).

Maybe someone like Rijkaard for Tito, but it's not like-for-like in terms of how they go about things (could defer all DLPing to Scirea though and have it as the more -insanely- defensively robust option). Maybe MvB/Müller for Seeler (for different reasons)? But not Ronaldo, Romario or Eusebio, for instance.

That's my issue with such wide open pools. I trust each and every one of these guys to perform superbly in their assigned roles and most "upgrading" is more pandering to the voters than real improvement, it feels wrong to cast aside great performers for shiny toys. Not that I wouldn't love Maldini, never got my hands on him :(

Anto%27s-Monopoly-formation-tactics.png

SUBS: Domingos Da Guia, Claude Makelele, Didí, Zé Roberto
I love TITO - proper complete midfielder, shame he's not part of the actual games. He's no shy I name but with the midfield I planned alongside Xavi would've been one of my top choices as a holding midfielder but couldn't get my hands on him and with Souness and Schuster I was done early in midfield.
I was sure you'd go for maradona - with Falcao and Tito you can set the stage for him and Seeler is an excellent foil. MVB or Muller is probably what I've go with Maradona in terms of style but with Maradona you'd still have the issue with Rivelino in that left inside channel.

I think Giggs won't look bad in your set up - another runner to create width and assist Seeler in the box.
 
@antohan upgrade Seeler.

Why? Seeler brought others into play like few other strikers. As I said, I'd only upgrade him for Marco or Muller. Marco is an outright improvement without losing any of his qualities, Muller a greater goalscorer and with Di Stefano there I would be tempted to lessen the importance of Seeler's "Benzema side" (to link to a more contemporary example).

Romario is the complete opposite, and I don't need a runner from deep, I need a "referencia de área" and that's Seeler to a T.
 
Rolls for reinforcement round 3

Format:

Manager - C
urrent Box | Current Roll | Move to Box

MJJ/Viva - x | x | 13 (finished)
Skizzo/Annah - 6 | 6 | 12
Enigma - x | x | 14 (finished)
Tuppet - 8 | 8 | 16 (Pass)
DavidG - 2 | 11 | 13
harms - x | x | 20 (finished)
Jayvin - 19 | 8 | 3 (Pass)
PatMustard - x | x | 23 (finished)

@Annahnomoss @Skizzo

I need rolls :(
 
Rolls for reinforcement round 3

Format:

Manager - C
urrent Box | Current Roll | Move to Box

MJJ/Viva - 13 | 4 | 17 (finished)
Skizzo/Annah - 6 | 6 | 12 (finished)
Enigma - 14 | 2 | 16 (finished)
Tuppet - 16 | 5 | 21 (Pass)
DavidG - 2 | 11 | 13 (finished)
harms - 20 | 5 | 1 (finished)
Jayvin - 19 | 8 | 3 (Pass)
PatMustard - 23 | 8 | 7 (finished)

So just @Jayvin left to play?
 
I love TITO - proper complete midfielder, shame he's not part of the actual games. He's no shy I name but with the midfield I planned alongside Xavi would've been one of my top choices as a holding midfielder but couldn't get my hands on him and with Souness and Schuster I was done early in midfield.
I was sure you'd go for maradona - with Falcao and Tito you can set the stage for him and Seeler is an excellent foil. MVB or Muller is probably what I've go with Maradona in terms of style but with Maradona you'd still have the issue with Rivelino in that left inside channel.

I think Giggs won't look bad in your set up - another runner to create width and assist Seeler in the box.

I was very very tempted to go with Diego, but I never had Di Stéfano before and this setup suited him more than Maradona. As you say, I would need someone more like Giggs than Rivelino on the left... but I don't have Giggs and do have Rivelino. Also, as everyone knows I have a permanent hard on with Facchetti so whenever he is in play my left flank is Facchetti + left-inside forward.
 
Rolls for reinforcement round 3

Format:

Manager - C
urrent Box | Current Roll | Move to Box

MJJ/Viva - 13 | 4 | 17 (finished)
Skizzo/Annah - 6 | 6 | 12 (finished)
Enigma - 14 | 2 | 16 (finished)
Tuppet - 16 | 5 | 21 (Pass)
DavidG - 2 | 11 | 13 (finished)
harms - 20 | 5 | 1 (finished)
Jayvin - 19 | 8 | 3 (Pass)
PatMustard - 23 | 8 | 7 (finished)

So just @Jayvin left to play?
I need to play round 4 as well. Think you can just give us the rolls since its skizzo annah's last pick.
 
Box 17 is great if you have played - put Di Stefano up top and Puskas inside just like 50-60 years ago :)

No, I didn't play, was hoping for a big roll and a shot at the lower figures. Bollocks.

Anyhow, Puskas got a lot younger since the last time I had him, are you sure you are not referring to 19?
 
Rolls for reinforcement round 3

Format:

Manager - C
urrent Box | Current Roll | Move to Box

MJJ/Viva - 13 | 4 | 17 (finished)
Skizzo/Annah - 6 | 6 | 12 (finished)
Enigma - 14 | 2 | 16 (finished)
Tuppet - 16 | 5 | 21 (Pass)
DavidG - 2 | 11 | 13 (finished)
harms - 20 | 5 | 1 (finished)
Jayvin - 19 | 8 | 3 (Pass)
PatMustard - 23 | 8 | 7 (finished)

So just @Jayvin left to play?
+ Tuppet + yours truly
 
No, I didn't play, was hoping for a big roll and a shot at the lower figures. Bollocks.

Anyhow, Puskas got a lot younger since the last time I had him, are you sure you are not referring to 19?
Meh messed it up with 19. Good pass then.
 
That question can be asked about anyone really in this draft without a valid answer as far as quality goes. Given the quality of defenses across the board I'd probably look at that position on your team as the one needing an upgrade.

To win? Sure, I know that. Feck them voters, that's the beauty of shadowing, I can build the team I like.
 
Rolls for reinforcement round 4

Format:

Manager - C
urrent Box | Current Roll | Move to Box

MJJ/Viva - 17 | 3 | 20 (x)
Skizzo/Annah - 12 | 4 | 16 (x)
Enigma - 16 | 7 | 23 (x)

Tuppet - 21 | 5 | 2
DavidG - 13 | 9 | 22 (x)
harms - 1 | 11 | 12 (x)

Jayvin - 3 | 4 | 7
PatMustard - 7 | 2 | 9 (x)

@Tuppet @Jayvin your rolls!
 
To win? Sure, I know that. Feck them voters, that's the beauty of shadowing, I can build the team I like.
Yeah agree with Aldo - Seeler would need an "upgrade" as generally he's not that high regarded compared to the other names. Although in the right setup he can be leathel.

I'm not sure how Eusebio will be regarded as this is the first time I've picked him and he lasted for like turn 7.
 
Di Stefano brings the incisiveness and goalscoring I wanted from Pelé and which Didí didn't offer... while not losing anything in the midfield equation. May actually turn out to be a better option, and I no longer have that possible clash between Didí and Rivelino in the inside left channel.

I would happily wrap up that side with Facchetti as a left back option (could use Zé against someone with no width on the right like onenil in the last round, but that's the most obvious tactical improvement/variation and there's a gulf between the options). Alternatively, a more classic winger like Dzajic down the left (I prefer the Facchetti-Rivelino option though).

Maybe someone like Rijkaard for Tito, but it's not like-for-like in terms of how they go about things (could defer all DLPing to Scirea though and have it as the more -insanely- defensively robust option). Maybe MvB/Müller for Seeler (for different reasons)? But not Ronaldo, Romario or Eusebio, for instance.

That's my issue with such wide open pools. I trust each and every one of these guys to perform superbly in their assigned roles and most "upgrading" is more pandering to the voters than real improvement, it feels wrong to cast aside great performers for shiny toys. Not that I wouldn't love Maldini, never got my hands on him :(

Anto%27s-Monopoly-formation-tactics.png

SUBS: Domingos Da Guia, Claude Makelele, Didí, Zé Roberto
Very nice. The left flank still needs work on the ball for the business end of an all-time draft - insofar as I think your build up from the left-hand side of the defence and midfield wouldn't be smooth enough. But otherwise there's a lot to like. The less voter-friendly types - or less well kent faces as we say over here - have clear, high-functioning roles.
 
To win? Sure, I know that. Feck them voters, that's the beauty of shadowing, I can build the team I like.
I did that even when I was playing. You were saying I wouldn't have been able to upgrade well - I wouldn't touch that team especially in attack and midfield. I was almost having to force myself to argue in the matchthread, just way past the motivation needed to go out and fight. And this was I team I really liked - couple of years ago I would have gone all out with everything I could. :D
 
Very nice. The left flank still needs work on the ball for the business end of an all-time draft - insofar as I think your build up from the left-hand side of the defence and midfield wouldn't be smooth enough. But otherwise there's a lot to like. The less voter-friendly types - or less well kent faces as we say over here - have clear, high-functioning roles.

We are on the same page then: it's a team getting ready for Giacinto to join them :drool: