Las Vegas Monopoly Draft

Fantastic box but an absolute bastard to research as you say. It took a hell of alot of google search spamming for me to hit on Dzajic.

Surely you would just identify the positions you need, make a shortlist and test each on worldfootball.net =>Club Matches => Look for non-zeros in the Red and Double Yellows columns?

I needed a goalie, made a list of 10 favourites and just looked for WC/CL reds.
 
Surely you would just identify the positions you need, make a shortlist and test each on worldfootball.net =>Club Matches => Look for non-zeros in the Red and Double Yellows columns?

I needed a goalie, made a list of 10 favourites and just looked for WC/CL reds.

That would have been far too logical :wenger:.

FFS I use that site alot too, I just never really considered that their list of red cards would be that comprehensive going back into the old European Cup era :lol:. Not to worry, I struck gold eventually.
 
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SUBS: Domingos Da Guia, Claude Makelele and Zé Roberto

The fullbacks are ideal for the twin threat of Best-Garrincha (let alone any other combo). Instead of the fullbacks pushing forward, Scirea does. That leaves a cracking trio at the back: Andrade-Stam-Djalma, as Scirea joins Tito further upfield to pull the strings and keep recycling and pinging the ball around with Rivelino-Didí-Falcao-Best ahead of them. Uwe Seeler is exactly the sort of striker you want with that quartet, not a greedy one they have to constantly feed but one that will link up well with them in and around the box.

Shades of Brazil 70 as it is very difficult to defend against, there's no discernible way to strangle/choke the generation and conversion of goalscoring opportunities. And there are no chinks in that defensive unit.
Amazing. Not sure as I haven't really looked at other teams, but this one is practically perfect, I especially like Scirea - Stam combo. You're lucky as feck that you've got free pick though.

Wanted to pick Goncalves there too, but opted with Vogts, hoping to pick certain someone later along the way. And I would've if not for the stooges :mad::D
 
I was pretty sure @antohan woyld have Tito in his team, I saw him being available a couple of times and mulled over him in the one-club man box but then went for defensive strength as I already had you-know-who marshalling the midfield. Was the right call for me.
 
I was pretty sure @antohan woyld have Tito in his team, I saw him being available a couple of times and mulled over him in the one-club man box but then went for defensive strength as I already had you-know-who marshalling the midfield. Was the right call for me.
I think you're vastly overrating Essien :D
 
Amazing. Not sure as I haven't really looked at other teams, but this one is practically perfect, I especially like Scirea - Stam combo. You're lucky as feck that you've got free pick though.

In fairness, MJJ also did, which is the whole point: given the same rolls/picking positions/luck how different a team can pan out by making a few decisions differently. DavidG also got the free pick and went with BobbyC (in fairness, he had Baresi and needed a LB to complete a formidable defence).

Wanted to pick Goncalves there too, but opted with Vogts, hoping to pick certain someone later along the way. And I would've if not for the stooges :mad::D

I considered him when I picked Victor. I just couldn't think of any comparable leftbacks still available, while with Makelele I already had the #10-eating DM and as a partner to Falcão I was hoping for more of a DLP-type to fully unleash him box-to-box.
 
I was pretty sure @antohan woyld have Tito in his team, I saw him being available a couple of times and mulled over him in the one-club man box but then went for defensive strength as I already had you-know-who marshalling the midfield. Was the right call for me.

I'm not even taking part in this, so believe me when I say the guy is amazing. As a kid and growing up I always set my eyes on the forwards, but the more I revisit Peñarol games from the 60s the more obvious it becomes that he was absolutely immense. It's like having an energetic Carrick who can both be defensively disciplined and be everywhere at the same time. Often he gets the ball back and always plays the right pass. When others get the ball back, they look for him immediately. We could do with someone like him right now actually!
 
I'm not even taking part in this, so believe me when I say the guy is amazing. As a kid and growing up I always set my eyes on the forwards, but the more I revisit Peñarol games from the 60s the more obvious it becomes that he was absolutely immense. It's like having an energetic Carrick who can both be defensively disciplined and be everywhere at the same time. Often he gets the ball back and always plays the right pass. When others get the ball back, they look for him immediately. We could do with someone like him right now actually!
No doubt about him man, would have picked him if I didn't need a defender more at the time. And I got a pretty good one too. :D
 
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SUBS: Domingos Da Guia, Claude Makelele and Zé Roberto

The fullbacks are ideal for the twin threat of Best-Garrincha (let alone any other combo). Instead of the fullbacks pushing forward, Scirea does. That leaves a cracking trio at the back: Andrade-Stam-Djalma, as Scirea joins Tito further upfield to pull the strings and keep recycling and pinging the ball around with Rivelino-Didí-Falcao-Best ahead of them. Uwe Seeler is exactly the sort of striker you want with that quartet, not a greedy one they have to constantly feed but one that will link up well with them in and around the box.

Shades of Brazil 70 as it is very difficult to defend against, there's no discernible way to strangle/choke the generation and conversion of goalscoring opportunities. And there are no chinks in that defensive unit.
Excellent team, anto. Scirea/Stam is a great pair and no weaknesses whatsoever in the team. You guys had good rolls to boot from the beginning as well.
 
Excellent team, anto. Scirea/Stam is a great pair and no weaknesses whatsoever in the team. You guys had good rolls to boot from the beginning as well.

Yeah, we didn't get many of the current player ones (BL/transfers/90s/that shite Box3), just Mou and the current Premiership non-United one... and we both promptly dropped the feckers as soon as we got to 13 :lol:
 
Yeah, we didn't get many of the current player ones (BL/transfers/90s/that shite Box3), just Mou and the current Premiership non-United one... and we both promptly dropped the feckers as soon as we got to 13 :lol:

I enjoyed booting Dudek as well :) Still would've loved to have another pick instead of Akinfeev, but can't complain much, didn't land on BL, 90's and the crap 18th box. The transfers was an excellent box to me - both Xavi and Dinho were eligible to that box as well as Kaka.

All things considered I'm pretty happy with my team as well. Getting a GOAT striker would made it perfect, but couldn't get near Ronaldo, MvB, Muller and the likes. Not that Erico, RvP and Villa are bad options of course. :D

Tito was great addition that late and was pinning for him in the beginning, as he qualified for some boxes, but as soon as I got Souness and then Schuster right after I was done for midfielders. From your comments I thought you'd be in the same position with Makelele, Didi and Falcao, but Tito actually improves the midfield even more.
 
Still would've loved to have another pick instead of Akinfeev
Come on! He conceded a goal in 40 consecutive CL games, there is no one like him!
Funny thing is that he played outstanding against Monaco and only let the ball in after a brilliant save, but who cares
40 fecking games.
 
So this shadow business then..

Pros - You don't play the tournament. For some, of course, that's what they prefer, not having to get into the whole mudslinging over going to the next round and worrying about it. Our even the preparation that can be tedious and basically if you are short on time and wanna play a draft, this is a simple way to do it.

Cons - You don't play the tournament. You spend all the time researching and forming a team and you don't get to play it in a single game to test it, see how people respond to your ideas and have a discussion around how the team operates. e.g. I have questions over the functioning of both Falcao and Didí in the said midfield but without an opponent there's little context to do so and no place to do it either. So I can see it being a bit unfulfilling.
 
Come on! He conceded a goal in 40 consecutive CL games, there is no one like him!
Funny thing is that he played outstanding against Monaco and only let the ball in after a brilliant save, but who cares
40 fecking games.
well he's an excellent shot stopper and not just once made the highlight reels, but that's about it. Flaps a fair few crosses as well, not to mention not very good with his feet. Apart from that he's ok I guess :D

Still I'm glad you dropped van Persie, otherwise I would have 2 sheep from that box.
 
So this shadow business then..

Pros - You don't play the tournament. For some, of course, that's what they prefer, not having to get into the whole mudslinging over going to the next round and worrying about it. Our even the preparation that can be tedious and basically if you are short on time and wanna play a draft, this is a simple way to do it.

Cons - You don't play the tournament. You spend all the time researching and forming a team and you don't get to play it in a single game to test it, see how people respond to your ideas and have a discussion around how the team operates. e.g. I have questions over the functioning of both Falcao and Didí in the said midfield but without an opponent there's little context to do so and no place to do it either. So I can see it being a bit unfulfilling.


to add it to Cons - you can't really upgrade the team as well if your man is eliminated, which is also part of the fun.
 
to add it to Cons - you can't really upgrade the team as well if your man is eliminated, which is also part of the fun.

I guess it depends a lot. He did pretty much get to complete his team already which was fortunate as they rolled so well, otherwise it would be sort of annoying if you felt like you lacked a key player.
 
In the end I'm happy with how my rolls went. Not too lucky and not too unlucky. Never got boxes like played for Utd, lost the WC, 80-100 caps, Traveller etc. but avoided things like box 3 as well. The whole way things were kept pretty tight for me but most times got just enough to not get completely screwed. Made me pick some players that I wouldn't always pick which was what the appeal of this draft was. Would have been rather boring to get all the great boxes and make a super team from the off. I have a goldfish memory so I can't really confirm but I don't think I've ever picked any of the players I did in this draft in any draft before, including Redondo, Pelé and van Basten :eek: .
 
to add it to Cons - you can't really upgrade the team as well if your man is eliminated, which is also part of the fun.
Yeah I almost wrote that myself. Reinforcements are another thing you might miss out on. But I think yeah this can be carried forward specially for people who have less time and offer themselves as AM - rather do this as you'd still doing the same research and picking but not having to contribute the time and effort needed for the tournament. It's basically how all drafts in most other forums are played which finish in rankings and don't do tournaments, and don't require a lot of time. Especially with 8 hour deadlines here you can easily manage a draft in a hectic schedule with not having the responsibility to turn up for the tourny.
 
I guess it depends a lot. He did pretty much get to complete his team already which was fortunate as they rolled so well, otherwise it would be sort of annoying if you felt like you lacked a key player.
Well he could easily improve certain positions, especially in all time pool. It's a well balanced team, that doesn't lack quality, but can be improved with another good rolls in reinforcement rounds. Very hard to complete your team in the first round - you need a lot of luck and a draft like this one, otherwise Scirea, Rivelino, Tito, etc would be long gone. I'm sure anto himself has players in mind to improve on those above.
 
Your #10 is unavailable to us if there won't be any other surprises later
Is that rule still there? I think it was written earlier when our first round picks were going to be free picks which meant all first picks would have been GOATs. Now with the whole thing starting with dice rolls a first round pick could have been a non-GOAT, like yours was.

Probably need to revise that @Edgar Allan Pillow .
 
Yeah I almost wrote that myself. Reinforcements are another thing you might miss out on. But I think yeah this can be carried forward specially for people who have less time and offer themselves as AM - rather do this as you'd still doing the same research and picking but not having to contribute the time and effort needed for the tournament. It's basically how all drafts in most other forums are played which finish in rankings and don't do tournaments, and don't require a lot of time. Especially with 8 hour deadlines here you can easily manage a draft in a hectic schedule with not having the responsibility to turn up for the tourny.
I'm not a big fan of ranking teams it becomes a bit of a beauty pageant of some sort and again you have no reinforcement rounds.

The other advantage of reinforcement rounds is that you might change formation if you get your hand on a better player for example.

In this draft as well I want to try an asymmetrical formation for the first round since so far I've gone for pretty straightforward 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 or diamond in recent drafts. But then again with just one reinforcement you can easily flip the whole formation, which is part of the fun :)
 
That would have been far too logical :wenger:.

FFS I use that site alot too, I just never really considered that their list of red cards would be that comprehensive going back into the old European Cup era :lol:. Not to worry, I struck gold eventually.
It was a good find, would have never crossed my mind to look him up under that criterion.
 
In the end I'm happy with how my rolls went. Not too lucky and not too unlucky. Never got boxes like played for Utd, lost the WC, 80-100 caps, Traveller etc. but avoided things like box 3 as well. The whole way things were kept pretty tight for me but most times got just enough to not get completely screwed. Made me pick some players that I wouldn't always pick which was what the appeal of this draft was. Would have been rather boring to get all the great boxes and make a super team from the off. I have a goldfish memory so I can't really confirm but I don't think I've ever picked any of the players I did in this draft in any draft before, including Redondo, Pelé and van Basten :eek: .

Jaysus...this whole drafting business must have been torture for you if you've missed out on him for all these years :lol:
 
So this shadow business then..

Pros - You don't play the tournament. For some, of course, that's what they prefer, not having to get into the whole mudslinging over going to the next round and worrying about it. Our even the preparation that can be tedious and basically if you are short on time and wanna play a draft, this is a simple way to do it.

Cons - You don't play the tournament. You spend all the time researching and forming a team and you don't get to play it in a single game to test it, see how people respond to your ideas and have a discussion around how the team operates. e.g. I have questions over the functioning of both Falcao and Didí in the said midfield but without an opponent there's little context to do so and no place to do it either. So I can see it being a bit unfulfilling.
Well, we are doing it right here, right now :lol:

Funny, I got the same comment earlier and I see no problem whatsoever. And we can discuss it as adults as I'm not playing anyone.

This is what I had to say:

antohan said:
How exactly? That's box-to-box Falcao, with Didí given loads of freedom as a roaming playmaker (the positioning indicates his natural tendency to the inside left channel). If anything, there could be a clash with Rivelino (which is why I was pining for a more classic winger in Joya) but Roberto played anywhere across the frontline and accommodated other playmakers very well.

There's shades of that 1970 side there, with Seeler being a prolific scorer while also having similar qualities to Tostao (a different player altogether as he wasn't a proper striker) in that he was adept to involve himself in the build up and turn provider for others. Best doing a Jairzinho upgrade and tearing a new one on any defender on that side...

Pelé instead of Didí is the obvious upgrade in incisiveness. But then, Pelé upgrades any side :smirk:
 
Jaysus...this whole drafting business must have been torture for you if you've missed out on him for all these years :lol:
I can't remember having him, which seems unreal to me as well. Though I've more than once stuck up for him when he was in other teams. :D

My favourite effort personally still remains the Decades Draft. Assortment of some of my favourites - Zico, Gullit, Scirea, Thuram! :drool:
 
I can't remember having him, which seems unreal to me as well. Though I've more than once stuck up for him when he was in other teams. :D

My favourite effort personally still remains the Decades Draft. Assortment of some of my favourites - Zico, Gullit, Scirea, Thuram! :drool:
The greatest side I ever drafted... Shame it was the newbies.

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Well he could easily improve certain positions, especially in all time pool. It's a well balanced team, that doesn't lack quality, but can be improved with another good rolls in reinforcement rounds. Very hard to complete your team in the first round - you need a lot of luck and a draft like this one, otherwise Scirea, Rivelino, Tito, etc would be long gone. I'm sure anto himself has players in mind to improve on those above.

Not really. It would be easy to add more shiny stars, but not improve the team dramatically. The single most significant improvement would obviously be nicking Edson Arantes do Nascimento. I would very happily start a final with that team as it is, and could probably win it just adding Pelé.

The question there would be whether Didí takes Falcão's slot and plays a more dynamic Gerson. Personally, I'd leave the DLPing to Tito and the B2B to Falcão as it is.

The only other improvement I reckon is legitimate is getting a more classic winger on the left: Dzajic or Joya would suit me fine. You don't need the most sexy player to make a TEAM function better. e.g. there's not a chance in hell I would stick Cristiano there and honestly believe it got better than having either of those two. Mind you, the muppet in me would probably want to pick Goofy.

The rest is only upgrading for the sake of upgrading. Maldini is better than Andrade, obviously. I love Zanetti, but wouldn't really take him ahead of Djalma here (I'd rather Djalma tucks in and gives Scirea freedom than the fullback pushing up). There must be a better stopper than Stam (although I struggle to think of one that would work so well there)... I'm having a similar issue with Tito, either I can think of better passers or better defensive beasts, but not players better on both counts. I probably could if I applied myself to it, but nothing strikes me and hits me on the head. Seeler? If I had Pelé there I would stick with him. It's a different proposition to your Ronaldos/Romarios/Eusebios... Marco I would probably take (there you go @Aldo, I would have to take you down first, clearly) but not overly fussed. I would rather "upgrade" Falcão with '66 Beckenbauer, just because it would work beautifully with Uwe up top.

In short, nope, I'm not fussed I don't get to upgrade. The fundamentals of how the team functions are clear, the roles are clear, everyone on his day will perform at as high a level as anyone could... It's really only the Rivelino-Didí combo I'd tweak to make the team faff a bit less and score more.