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? If I used this dumbass logic of yours in reverse, I'd say you don't have an opinion either as you're criticizing for the sale but I wouldn't in realityLack of rotation: Will this hurt us deeper in the season?
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? If I used this dumbass logic of yours in reverse, I'd say you don't have an opinion either as you're criticizing for the sale but I wouldn't in realityAnd scored... none of those chances.
This was while the game was wildly open and they had 10 men. If you think the team that finished the game wins it easily then I disagree strongly.
We did rest Varane, Martinez and Shaw today. While Rashford and Bruno were subbed of 60 mins it. That's not nothing.
We are going through a purple patch right now and the team is gelling well together. ETH might be worried wholesale changes might disrupt the rhythm a bit.
We are going through a purple patch right now and the team is gelling well together. ETH might be worried wholesale changes might disrupt the rhythm a bit.
I think it won't if we don't go far in Europa league. So I'll be cheering for Barca maybe
This is an important topic to discuss, but at the end of the day we have to keep pressing with our best XI in every match, except in second legs where we gave a huge goal advantage. We can leave something in the table and drop points now in the hope of picking up points later, or pick up points now and risk dropping points later when fatigue really sets in. The poison we have to pick is going strong for as long as we can.
I think so. I keep seeing people in match threads say play our best players every game. We're going to pay for it. In my view, we should have rested more players here. It's quite clear that ETH doesn't like to rest players very often. I just don't think it's a good idea to play the same players every 3 days. If we can't rotate against a Championship team at home, then it's impossible to do so in practically any other game.
Bruno, Rashford, Casemiro, and Eriksen play every game. Antony plays a lot, too. He does seem willing to rest Varane.
If he doesn't rotate against Forest when we're 3-0 up and playing at home, that'll be ridiculous.
Bruno, Rashford, Casemiro, and Eriksen play every game. Antony plays a lot, too. He does seem willing to rest Varane.
If he doesn't rotate against Forest when we're 3-0 up and playing at home, that'll be ridiculous.
Before the match started I thought he could play Garnacho and Fred. After the match, I still think those 2 were the only ones who could have started. Our bench quality is quite poor, we are still not clinical enough, our third / fourth choice CBs are a mistake waiting to happen. With this context, making wholesale changes has a high probability of an unfavourable result. I can empathise with EtH on his reluctance to not rotate as much
Too dramatic. We rested our CBs and main players today were hooked at about 60th minute and on. Also we practically played this at walking pace. We didnt play full strenght today, rotated a bit and will rotate on Wednesday.
If Martial and Sancho, it would be easier but the squad is thin in terms of quality
I didn't say that they'd win easily. I said I think they'd win and if not, there are reinforcements on the bench if the game isn't going as we like. If you want to continue to not think for yourself and only say "I'm just following the manager" then so be it. Be a muppet. No skin off my back. I will continue to think for myself and say things like "the squad should be rotated". But if we continue to play the same guys every game and players start getting injured, don't act surprised because you are the one who thinks we don't need to rotate when playing a midtable championship team
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What???? That made absolutely no sense
Now you feel exactly like me after your post.
As a minimum we need another CM. Shame that donny is out for the season, as he would have got plenty of minutes this season as squad is so threadbare.
I want to say it is going to hurt us as that’s my experience of football. But I’ve been thinking the same about Pool & City for 5+ years now and it doesn’t seem to be bothering them too much.
The players are going to get their first proper summer break in years this summer, I say we just play them every week and see where we end up.
The players are going to get their first proper summer break in years this summer, I say we just play them every week and see where we end up.
The line up was the right one. We needed to control the game so we needed Casemiro and Eriksen. Lindelof and Maguire deputized very well and are good in ball distribution.
We needed our best attackers to break them down. Starting with Pellistri and Garnacho would have been a huge gamble.
We needed our best attackers to break them down. Starting with Pellistri and Garnacho would have been a huge gamble.
All I know is that I expected Liverpool to be as bad as they have been this season after what they did last year.
Mine made sense.
You’re mistaking me for someone else with half of your reply.
We literally lost 1-0 in the period we are talking about. Resting loads of players today would be nonsensical when we have the league cup match to do so in midweek.
Players need to stay sharp just as much as they need rest. A 10 day break is not needed.
It didn't at all
I swear some people think we train 7 days a week and then just have to live with all the matches on top as well. The players at the moment will likely be getting 1 proper training day each, along with the 2 match days, the 2 pre-match rest days and 2 post-match recovery days.
So Andy Carole comes in with that challenge a touch higher and breaks Cassamiro's leg and you'd just think "it was unlucky"? We were playing a midtable championship team. McFred would be perfectly fine and we would still dominate the game...
No feckin chance. That's the stuff of nightmares, right there.
Yes it did. I state my opinion. You just repeat whatever the manager tells you like a good little muppet. I think for myself. You don't. Simple as...THen you responded with some nonesense that made absolutely no sense. I'm not in your league sweetie. Please stop trolling me...
Agreeing with a decision means I don't think for myself ? I am not in your league indeed cause you make no sense whatsoever. You're batshit crazy. Must be great seeing the world in a black/white view
But it didn’t happen did it. Hardly any of the players even broke a sweat today.
Agreeing with a decision means I don't think for myself ? I am not in your league indeed cause you make no sense whatsoever. You're batshit crazy. Must be great seeing the world in a black/white view
Stop trolling me. I'm out of your league sweetie...
I think most people feel that we should have rotated half of them. Not full rotation, which tends to not work. But ok start Casemiro. Why not start Fred ahead of Eriksen? Start one of Pellistri or Garnacho instead of one of the 2 wingers? It just won't work well long term if we always go strongest 11. It never does.
Maybe but for me tiredness tends to rear it's head when you're not playing well, it's a nice comfy blanket aka excuse for the players and manager. ETH doesn't allow excuses. He never makes them so it tallies he probably thinks there is a certain softness about players that moan about tiredness unless it is completely justified.
If you play your best team more often, you're more likely to be in contention. You're more likely to progress as a club and build a resilience and toughness and when you're on a run you don't hear shit about tiredness.
Also what good is a nicely rested squad that's not in the cups because you played second and third strings? You've got fresh players not playing a fixture.
If we get tired at the end of the season and run out of steam then okay, at least you know where the problem is. If you tinker with the side too often it's very hard to get the cohesion and play we want. Obviously we do have to smartly rest players at times and we do, you have to know the limits of the individuals but generally speaking I like the approach of consistent teams.
If you play your best team more often, you're more likely to be in contention. You're more likely to progress as a club and build a resilience and toughness and when you're on a run you don't hear shit about tiredness.
Also what good is a nicely rested squad that's not in the cups because you played second and third strings? You've got fresh players not playing a fixture.
If we get tired at the end of the season and run out of steam then okay, at least you know where the problem is. If you tinker with the side too often it's very hard to get the cohesion and play we want. Obviously we do have to smartly rest players at times and we do, you have to know the limits of the individuals but generally speaking I like the approach of consistent teams.
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Casemiro getting a legbreaker is nothing to do with rotation.
But it very well could have and you'd have no problem with it. And by saying "the players hardly broke a sweat" you are actually arguing for me. You are right. They barely broke a sweat so why risk injury to our top players when we could start McFred and still dominate while not risking players like Carremiro
That team would have been slaughtered!
This.
Soon people will start complaining about training schedule. "Why do they need to train hard every day?"
Well there's been training somewhere, the interaction between AWB and Antony was excellent tonight and that could only have come about from training sessions, there was a definite plan as to how they positioned themselves
It’s almost as if the team is improving via consistent team selections in matches.
I see one particular drama queen in this thread ranting and raving about rotation, and even provided a horrible line-up that would probably have a high likelihood of us losing the game or worse, drawing and having a replay to add to our already congested fixture list. That would be ironic.
If we continue going far in the Europa League and FA Cup, it's only logical to think it will. The games are coming so thick and fast, and we simply don't have a big squad. Injuries will no doubt come along, plus fatigue. It is what it is.
But hopefully we can still finish top 4 and pick up at least one trophy, I'll be over the moon with that.
But hopefully we can still finish top 4 and pick up at least one trophy, I'll be over the moon with that.
It is a concern.
Let's say we reached the FA cup final, Europa final, and League cup final this season, with barely any rotation because we know ETH hates rotating.
Are we confident we'd finish top 4 when we're playing that amount of games? I'd be sceptical to be honest. When Thursday-Sunday comes around again we'll start to see some very leggy performances on the weekend league games, and our lead over 5th certainly isn't big enough that we can take top 4 for granted.
Let's say we reached the FA cup final, Europa final, and League cup final this season, with barely any rotation because we know ETH hates rotating.
Are we confident we'd finish top 4 when we're playing that amount of games? I'd be sceptical to be honest. When Thursday-Sunday comes around again we'll start to see some very leggy performances on the weekend league games, and our lead over 5th certainly isn't big enough that we can take top 4 for granted.
But hey, we really needed him tonight. Fred couldn’t have done the job against Reading.
He can rotate during the week against Forest.
Feck sake man. Fred could have easily played tonight.
I know this type of thing can happen in any game, but this is easily a game we could have rested more of our players.