Didn't know Atletico are just 4 points behind Seville. And Real Sociedad are also coming.
La Liga 2016/17
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Moyeseh laid the groundwork for that, innit.
He's not a winger, we play with 3CMs and a winger most of the time.sometimes even with 4CMs . When Simeone get bit of confidence , he plays 2 winger plus 2 Cm in 4 man midfield. it was a great system defensively and for counter attacking but we couldn't replace Tiago as our 3rd CM and Arda on wing. Don't take someone as winger just because be plays in 4man midfield in 442. we start with only one winger in Carrasco or Gaitan. I hope it helps.It's Cholo's system.
Damn straight. And don't let anyone tell you any different.
So he is an AM played on the wings sometimes?
No he's a versatile player, can play at many places from CB to CM, but he's not better than CMs or CB we have. He's not an AM lol , his goal against Bayern have fooled many, He's basically an okay CDM .We've been playing with 3 CMs , with Tiago getting older , 3rd slot of CM in 4 man midfield has been given to Saul while Koke moved to Tiago position in 442. Carrasco on left with 3 other CMs in 4 man midfield. i know we're not like typical 442 with use of wingers so it's confusing you. Sometimes Simeone play Both Gaitan and Carrasco in 442, that time we have 2 wingers and 2CMs. In last year against Bayern or Barca we started with 4CMs in Augusto,Koke,Gabi,Saul. That doesn't mean Augusto and Saul were playing as wingers. They were playing to keep defensive organisation compact, this also affected as we couldn't create width and pace on wings, it was apparent at Allianz Arena when Carrasco came in for Augusto on left flank and provided some width. I don't know why you're still confused.
Eibar are sixth. Hope they can qualify to the Europa League.
Pts. J. G. E. P. GF. GC.
6 VILLARREAL CF 36 22 9 9 4 29 15
7 SD EIBAR 35 22 10 5 7 36 29
8 ATHLETIC CLUB 35 22 10 5 7 28 26
9 RCD ESPANYOL 32 22 8 8 6 30 29
10 RC CELTA 30 21 9 3 9 33 36
Yep, great to see such a small club do so well
it is just a fairly traditional 442/4411, that is rarely used by other clubs nowadays. Two lines of 4 with two forwards/attackers ahead of them. Different players (e.g. Gaitan/Carrasco vs Correa vs Koke/Saul) interpret the role as "wide midfielder" different, but in the end they always have to fall back into formation to defend.
Yes but formation look quite different if you play a proper winger instead of 4 cms in 442. Did you notice how our midfield was concentrated in to Centre with no width untill Carrasco came in for Augusto in second half ? ,yes wide midfielder gave different meaning to the system , but a 2 cms playing on wide will be a lot different than 2 wingers playing on wide. Koke also played on wide but he lacked pace and struggled there too. My favourite 4 in 442 has to be Carrasco Augusto ,Gabi and Koke . This when work make it impossible to work against us. Only 2 cms and 2 wingers on wide can work against small teams but against big it'll be tough. Defending and attacking are not same when a winger play wide in 442 , offense look better but defense compromises so Simeone play with 3Cm that revert to 443 while attacking and 442 while defending.
Oh, I agree. Carrasco has the pace and quality to take on players, while Koke/Saul are just tugged on CMs, who can’t do that at all. Without Carrasco the team lacks an important dimension going forward. Having one natural wide player on the pitch is just a great asset, while Atletico can be very one dimensional without him. I also agree that Carrasco, Augusto, Gabi and Koke is your best midfield 4.
I just tried to make the point, that Atletico often plays a fairly “old-school” 442, where the wide midfielders don’t have to be wingers like in various other more common systems.
Why is Gameiro struggling so badly?
This is the program Universo Valdano, where Jorge Sampaoli is being interviewed. This segment is an hour, and Sampaoli talks about his strategies, about the away game vs La Real becoming kind of a turning point for Sevilla, about the 3 real madrid games, and a lot more. The interview is interesting, but I saw it with subtitles, and now I can't find that version, which is a bit ackward.
La Liga crushing Betis. 3-0 up after 33 minutes with Pereira scoring the 3rd.
What a difference and Icelander makes
What a difference and Icelander makes
Massive win for Granada in their battle to avoid relegation.
Atletico 0-0 HT against Gijón.
And struggling. Very poor.
It's surely Simeone's last season. He needs something new.
Sporting looking good. Atletico playing like crap.
13 seconds into the second half and Atleti score. Go Yannick! Atleti were terrible in the first half.
1-1 Gijon. Can't say it wasn't deserved.
The energy has gone from this Atletico side. 3 subs used by the 67th min and they're still getting dominated in midfield.
What's up with Atletico Madrid this season? They are in serious danger of missing out on top 4 if they don't get their act together. Sevilla is already a couple of points ahead of them and Real Sociedad is closing in on them, with Villarreal within touching distance.
Griezmann's goal is ruled offside. Hmm.. tight call.
Goal! Gameiro!
Second assist for Griezmann. Cute little pass inside.
Second assist for Griezmann. Cute little pass inside.
Great pass from Griezmann
Two times in a row that Atletico got lucky.
3-1 Gameiro. Game over.
Love me some Gameiro. 11th goal of the season.
Unlucky Gijón.
All Thomas Partey
Hat-trick Gameiro.
Game over. Yet again Atleti left it late.
Great sub.Devastating finishing.
5 minute hat-trick from Gameiro.
Thanks for the post. Will give it a watch later.
Only watched from the second half (and I even managed to miss Atleti's first then), but 4-1 seems harsh on Sporting. I assume it's finished 4-1, I turned it off on about 88 mins because that bellend with the megaphone was driving me insane. Very clinical finishing by Gameiro, and I thought Griezmann was actually level for that disallowed goal. Lacina Traore looked decent, like the sort of a striker that West Ham or Stoke would be after.
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