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Celestiale said:
It's pretty much the same with distances in Germany, and nevertheless the fans from every club go to away games in the thousands. Only advantage we have is no speed limit, but that makes only sense in the eastern half of the country. So that for once can't be the reason. Apart from that, almost no games in Spain overall are sold out. Half empty stadiums everywhere. If you wanna call that great fans, well good for you.
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I never said that we are great fans.I don´t think that the distances are pretty much the same.Tell me what game in Germany you have to travel 1100 km.
Yes, the clubs should do something to improve the people in the stadiums. To go to a single match is quite cheap but I find expensive to be ticket holder(I used to be when I had the discount for being under 25)
I read that the tickets in Germany are very cheap, maybe that´s the reason, or maybe you are very rich and can pay the trip, and the hotel.
 
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It's pretty much the same with distances in Germany, and nevertheless the fans from every club go to away games in the thousands. Only advantage we have is no speed limit, but that makes only sense in the eastern half of the country. 16 of 18 clubs are further away then 4 hours drive from where i live. So that for once can't be the reason. Apart from that, almost no games in Spain overall are sold out. Half empty stadiums everywhere. If you wanna call that great fans, well good for you.
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Is not about distances, is about the amount of time you have to waste in order to cover those distances.

I'm from a town close to Carvajal's and spent some months studying in Gijon (where Sporting play). You have 3 ways of transport between those zones. The first is your personal vehicle in a 3 hour traject (now, until 7 years ago it was a 5/6 hours drive), I don't think the highways in Germany get filled of football fans with their personal car to watch a game, the logical way would be a train, but between Coruña/Gijon the only direct train that covers that distances takes 9 hours (triple the time you spend if you take a car on your own) and it only would gets worse if you lived between Coruña and Portugal having to come up here for the hub, the last way is taking a four and a half hour bus drive but they're scarce and obviusly if the game starts too early/too late either you'll miss the game or you won't have a bus back home.


The best solution would be travel plans done by the fans to hire some buses and go support their teams, but that's also harder because for example in our region (Galicia) the population density is 4x lower than the Spanish average, and the Spanish average is already much lower than the rest of the German/English or even French average. Beyond the bigger cities (that usually support the local teams) every city/town is smaller than the ones you might me comparing to us and are way worse connected to other places. Even if there was a tradition of traveling with Deportivo for example, probably half the people that would go to those travels would need to take his car, drive almost an hour, find free parking (not easy) and meet somewhere to take the bus they hired with the rest of the fans.

If after all those problems you still have to pay the most expensive tickets in Europe for a Getafe - Deportivo then it's just logical that you'd rather stay in your city to save some money while helping your local economy watching the game with some beers in a local bar :lol:
 
Ronaldo ignores Kroos and takes a wild shot instead of playing him clean through.

Edit: But now he provides a very nice assist Kovacic. Happy that he has scored.
 
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Very big goal.

Madrid have played like complete shit so far.
 
It's easy to talk about great fans because stadiums sell out but in the end the situation of Germany and Spain isn't comparable. If I look at http://sportslens.com/football-price-index-bundesliga-leading-way-premier-league-fourth/178712/ - according to this tickets for la liga games are more than twice as expensive than Bundesliga tickets. And then you could add that Germany has a higher GDP/per capita and more people (+less teams in the first division though tbf I guess the 2nd Bundesliga has more people in the stadiums than the 2nd spanish division).

Anyway I guess if you'd get the tickets for just half the price or even less in Spain they'd sell a lot more of them as well.
 
Well done Kovacic!, I don´t know why but I have a special simpathy for this guy :) he´s playing a great season. The team doesn´t look comfortable but hopefully we will use well the gift of Barça and Sevilla. I´d like to see Morata in the second half, and Achraf, who is also in the bench.
 
carvajal said:
Well done Kovacic!, I don´t know why but I have a special simpathy for this guy :) he´s playing a great season. The team doesn´t look comfortable but hopefully we will use well the gift of Barça and Sevilla. I´d like to see Morata in the second half, and Achraf, who is also in the bench.
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Probably because he's way too good to be sitting on the bench. I've got the same.
 
Even the commentators are laughing at how utterly shit Danilo is.
 
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Well done Kovacic!, I don´t know why but I have a special simpathy for this guy :)
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I'm guessing because of the immense talent and dedication on the pitch. His runs are like Pogba on steroids and he makes them far more often.
Imagine what player he would be if he had a bit better pass.
 
Ishdalar said:
Is not about distances, is about the amount of time you have to waste in order to cover those distances.

I'm from a town close to Carvajal's and spent some months studying in Gijon (where Sporting play). You have 3 ways of transport between those zones. The first is your personal vehicle in a 3 hour traject (now, until 7 years ago it was a 5/6 hours drive), I don't think the highways in Germany get filled of football fans with their personal car to watch a game, the logical way would be a train, but between Coruña/Gijon the only direct train that covers that distances takes 9 hours (triple the time you spend if you take a car on your own) and it only would gets worse if you lived between Coruña and Portugal having to come up here for the hub, the last way is taking a four and a half hour bus drive but they're scarce and obviusly if the game starts too early/too late either you'll miss the game or you won't have a bus back home.


The best solution would be travel plans done by the fans to hire some buses and go support their teams, but that's also harder because for example in our region (Galicia) the population density is 4x lower than the Spanish average, and the Spanish average is already much lower than the rest of the German/English or even French average. Beyond the bigger cities (that usually support the local teams) every city/town is smaller than the ones you might me comparing to us and are way worse connected to other places. Even if there was a tradition of traveling with Deportivo for example, probably half the people that would go to those travels would need to take his car, drive almost an hour, find free parking (not easy) and meet somewhere to take the bus they hired with the rest of the fans.

If after all those problems you still have to pay the most expensive tickets in Europe for a Getafe - Deportivo then it's just logical that you'd rather stay in your city to save some money while helping your local economy watching the game with some beers in a local bar :lol:
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Ok, thanks for this long explanation. Definitely makes sense. Don't get me wrong, i'd never condemn someone for not watching football games live in stadiums. I was rarely ever at any live game. One reason probably that my favourite teams are all not from Germany, and far far away. If i'd live anywhere in England, i'd probably get a season ticket for the nearest decent team, with a few trips to Manchester every year.
 
Glad to see Real madrid pla y different tactics and letting Sociedad keep the ball. Getting acres of space to attempt counters.
Lovely thru ball from Ron to set up Kovacic and a superb finish.
Missing Modric and maybe even Isco a lot.
Great pass from Lucas Vasquez to Ronaldo
But Sociedad had some chances themselves, playing pretty decent.
 
Vato said:
It's not over yet, enough time to feck this up.
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I love your doom & gloom approach. :D

Ronaldo scores! Sweet through ball by Kovacic, smooth finish.
 
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gaucho_10 said:
I'm guessing because of the immense talent and dedication on the pitch. His runs are like Pogba on steroids and he makes them far more often.
Imagine what player he would be if he had a bit better pass.
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Vato said:
Probably because he's way too good to be sitting on the bench. I've got the same.
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His dedication and because he is very good as you say but also he looks humble and a good team mate. He had a first year where hardly played and instead complaining he arrived earlier in the preseason.
Did you know the history of his transfer, according to the press Florentino asked Modric about him and said that was a possible ballon d´or winner.
Probably Luka was too optimistic but he has a lot of time to improve.
 
Real Sociedad have given up a bit.
Morata on for Benzema.
Morata has just seen a goal disallowed. Clear offside.
 
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Only have it on on another screen but it seems like RSO have a surprisingly easy time breaking through on the left. They were in quite a few good positions, just couldn't use them to do anything meaningful.
 
Now Ronaldo starts to take indirect free kicks. He plays a damn good game since the closing minutes of HT 1.

Inigo Martinez off, but he should have walked 5 minutes earlier. I really can't understand why referees sometimes don't act in such obvious situations.
 
3-0 Morata.

It has to be said: Danilo had a good game overall.
 
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