Dion
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He was dreadful by his own standards tonight but still the most dangerous man on the pitch.
If it's any consolation to you, Neymar destroyed his makeup with some very salty tears yesterday.Barcelona and Atletico are serious contenders but PSG has a revenge to take over Spaniards. Neymar destroying Barcelona in QF/SF. Please make it happen
I think his only downside is that he is a final third player. I mean, it's hardly even a downside given most goalscorers are final third players, but it is true that he lacks the finnese and that bit of genius outside the box. But the fact that we are even speaking him about those terms trying to correct perceptions tells you how good he is.He's a terrific player, one of those that stands out as special. He just has that awe around him and when he's on it, completely unplayable. Think the conditions today hampered him somewhat but feck me what a player.
He might be a serial winner but still a cnut. I was calling Neymar a cnut not because of what did or didn't do in the game but in general, he comes across as a cnut and it looks to be robbing of on Mbappe (not just talking about this match).Dani Alves is serial winner and a top professional who still playing in high level close to the end of his career. In fact he was one of their best players in both legs. He is a very generous and decent guy who treats everybody with respect, even the most humble workers in the clubs where he is playing. Neymar sure is a cnut but i dont remember him in the pitch losing easy chances today.
Stil think he has nowhere near the ball control and technical ability to ever be a Neymar lvl player
Stil think he has nowhere near the ball control and technical ability to ever be a Neymar lvl player
I wonder if he's starting to think about moving on now. Must be clear to him PSG aren't good enough for what he wants to achieve and it must be getting boring walking the French league every year.
And none of these make a player more rounded outside of goals, in fact what you just mentioned is directly linked to goals. Henry at his peak was a better player than Mbappé currently is because he was experienced and fine-tuned, not because he was more rounded. Mbappé at 20 is more rounded than Henry at 20 and today Mbappé is a very complete footballers, so it makes no sense when you say that Mbappé doesn't have the attributes to be as rounded as peak Henry since Henry had less attributes at the same age.
There's some truth in this.
He has blinding pace but lacks a little bit of guile. He needs a bit of
Had one of those nights last night. It felt a bit like coming up against inter in 99 and being worried about Ronaldo, but that worked out well too
Peak Henry attributes over current Mbappe: finishing, free kicks, awareness/ decision making, passing, dribbling, hold up play, strength, heading, playmaking. Im sorry, if that doesn't make Peak Henry more rounded than current Mbappe, then i am lost for words.
Peak Henry attributes over current Mbappe: finishing, free kicks, awareness/ decision making, passing, dribbling, hold up play, strength, heading, playmaking. Im sorry, if that doesn't make Peak Henry more rounded than current Mbappe, then i am lost for words.
Youre comparing Mbappe to R9? R9 was one of the best one man attacks of all time. Mbappe doesnt even come close. R9 could could create a goal out of nothing, we haven't seen Mbappe do that, he just doesn't have anywhere near the same level of ability. With that being said, he'll be one of the very best forwards of the next 10 years. He has to make the right career move soon/ next. Going to Barca/ Real/ City and winning trophies will improve his legacy much more than staying at PSG longer than he should.
He doesn't need it. He'll score 30 goals every season for a decade and be seen as the best striker of his generation.. pity he'll be doing it in ligue 1 thoughStil think he has nowhere near the ball control and technical ability to ever be a Neymar lvl player
You said that Mbappé didn't had influence outside of goals, which is wrong and shown by tapes and stats. Then you said that he didn't had the attributes to be more rounded later in his career unlike peak Henry which is strange because young Henry wasn't as rounded as Mbappé but still managed to be the player that he was at his peak.
You are simply making little sense.
Not comparing them on talent mate, just on the focus of the match going Into it. There isn't a player alive I'd compare to R9.Peak Henry attributes over current Mbappe: finishing, free kicks, awareness/ decision making, passing, dribbling, hold up play, strength, heading, playmaking. Im sorry, if that doesn't make Peak Henry more rounded than current Mbappe, then i am lost for words.
Youre comparing Mbappe to R9? R9 was one of the best one man attacks of all time. Mbappe doesnt even come close. R9 could could create a goal out of nothing, we haven't seen Mbappe do that, he just doesn't have anywhere near the same level of ability. With that being said, he'll be one of the very best forwards of the next 10 years. He has to make the right career move soon/ next. Going to Barca/ Real/ City and winning trophies will improve his legacy much more than staying at PSG longer than he should.
No, you are wrong. I was replying to a poster who said that current Mbappe is a more rounded player than Henry EVER was. That's what i took exception to. Of course, i dont know what kind of player Mbappe will evolve into. And yes, age for age, he is certainly better than Titi at the same age. But lets not forget that Titi evolved into a truly exceptionally well rounded forward, in fact, on of the greatest of all time. If Kyllian goes on to match him, he will have done well.
He was dreadful by his own standards tonight but still the most dangerous man on the pitch.
I'm not wrong though, in the post that I quoted, you compared him with Henry and said that what separated him from the rest was his ability to influence the game outside of goals, you then said that you didn't think Mbappé could do it like Neymar(which is an odd jump since you were talking about Henry). I simply pointed out to the fact that Mbappé does influence the game outside of scoring goals since he creates them too and in CL he does it at a higher rate than Henry. I also added that if you use Henry as an example then your skepticism isn't warranted because he wasn't as rounded as Mbappé at the same age, in theory there is no reason to think that Mbappé couldn't match peak Henry's abilities when Mbappé has more tools than a 20 years old Henry.
And in general, I strongly disagree with the idea of comparing a player at his peak and a developing 20 years old, among attackers Griezmann is the perfect example of why it's a stupid exercise. While he was talented no one expected him to develop the way he did.
Are you aware that youve contradicted yourself? You said above that its unfair to compare a 20 year old to a player in his peak.
This is a direct quote from you from 2 pages ago, "An attacking player that isn't complete won't have more goals AND assists. Henry wasn't more complete than Mbappé not at a young age and not later either."
The last part of that quote is you comparing Mbappe to a later Henry (ie a peak one).
Now youve changed tune because you realise how ridiculous that was.
Mbappe currently is nowhere near the player nor is he as complete as a later peak Henry.