He is a kid but he is going to be a star.
Kylian Mbappe | PSG
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He's legit and one average game can't change that. It's at least nice to see the kneejerk trend of slating young players after awful team performances isn't restricted to our players
He's going to be world class, but people who were comparing him to Brazilian Ronaldo ability wise, were way off, maybe the Ronaldo who had multiple injuries was overweight and could barely run at full tilt.
Brazilian ROnaldo could only blame himself. Lacked training discipline, was not fan of fitness, strength and agility training. A lot of ex-team mates of him confirm that.
He could had been a legend. Pity.
Alright alright it may have been a hyperbolic statement but it certainly was a performance you wouldn't expect from an 18 year old; you could claim it as evidence of a player being world class if it were done by a more experienced player.
He may have not touched the ball as often as the others but he was a danger most of the times he got the ball
In all honesty, i'd say it goes both ways with Mbappe.
We (in the general sense) can't hype a youngster to basically unprecedented levels, and not expect a backlash from those who don't buy the over hyping, when he doesn't step up in a big game (over 2 legs). It comes with the territory I guess.
He is a legend. You mean GOAT
Nah. Wouldn't go that far.
I like the player, he is the best teenager in world football but I don't think going OTT with him helps.
Some posters are still claiming he's world class based on his numbers in France
He has 18 goals and assists in 17 starts which is impressive but....
Neymar has 32 goals and assists in 20 games!
Cavani has 28 goals and assists in 24 starts.
Florin Thauvin has 26 goals and assists in 28 games.
Fekir has 22 goals and assists in 23 starts.
Falcao has 18 goals and assists in 20 games.
Baloteli 14 goals in 18 starts.
Last season Lacazette hit 31 goals and assists in 28 starts there.
Cavani 39 in 35 starts
And so on
That's all good but Mbappe is the only one who is 18-19 years old, alongside repeating those performances in the UCL.
Could have been??? Are you kidding???
He is already a legend by every definition imaginable.
Ridiculous, he really is not better than Lukaku never mind “levels above”. Will he be better then Lukaku is now when he reaches Lukaku’s age (24)? Yes he will, but right now not a chance.
Lukaku has 23 goals and 7 assists in 41 games.
Mbappe has 16 goals and 14 assists in 35 games.
However, not a chance would Mbappe put up Lukaku’s numbers, especially as the PL is vastly superior to L1.
Lukaku has been playing with Rashford, Mata, Martial and Lingard all season to provide for him and for him to provide for, not to mention Mourinho’s style of play is very pragmatic.
In contrast, Mbappe has been playing with Cavani, Neymar and Di Maria all season to provide for him and for him to provide for.
The latter players play in a much more attack coherent team and the individual talent is streets ahead of United.
Put Mbappe as the main man in this United team and no way does he put up the numbers that Lukaku has done this season.
I'd swim Lukaku across the channel myself if PSG were willing to swap honestly.
Though admittedly, that's also because of his age. But talent wise I think Mbappé is miles ahead. Lukaku is doing a fine job lately though.
You know what I mean, mate. He is a legend! He is one of my favourite players ever. His season at Barça was truly amazing, Barça only lost the title that season becuase their bench was quite poor and injuries came on.
I was referring of being a GOAT in terms of numbers and statistics.
How does the Cafe compare Leroy Sane and Mbappe?
Different type of forwards. But yeas, Mbappé will give you much more dynamic to our team.
How long had Mbappe stunk up the joint? Or is the criticism based on last night alone. If so I'd suggest it's premature.
Noone was wrong to compare what he was doing last season to what Ronaldo Fenomeno was doing at the same age. Just because he's off form now doesn't take away from what he did last season.
He wasn't even poor against Madrid, should have done better with a few chances but he was still decent.
He wasn't even poor against Madrid, should have done better with a few chances but he was still decent.
Not true.
Ronaldo had hypothyroidism.
Hypothyroidism is a condition in which the body lacks sufficient thyroidhormone. Since the main purpose of thyroid hormone is to "run the body's metabolism," it is understandable that people with this condition will have symptoms associated with a slow metabolism.
I actually really don't watch him enough to comment. I'm just saying -it's the nature of the Caf (or most forums I guess).
Also true. But you can easilly google several ex-team mates of him saying he was not really a fan of training sessions
Not the only top player who had problems with that, we can easily forgive him that.If I had to choose one right now it would be Sane - both really good young players but Sane is proving it every week in a much tougher league. Mbappe had a special season last year and there will always be question marks for me until he replicates that - which he might never do.
He COULD have been a legend? You are talking about probably the best striker the world has ever seen who is absolutely 100% a legend.
1. Your numbers are including sub appearances and cup games. In the league and CL where it matters Mbappe has scored and assisted more in less games. The PL is tougher, but they're playing at the same level in the CL
2. Lukaku plays as a striker, Mbappe plays at the left wing. If Mbappe was striker he'd be getting more chances and scoring much more, yes he'd easily match Lukaku's customary 16-20 league goals in the PL. How many goals and assists is Lukaku getting at right wing?
3. Mbappe is literally better than Lukaku at every football ability bar perhaps aeriel ability and outmuscling defenders.
1. Most of those player higher up the pitch, Mbappe's numbers were better as the attacking focal point last season, now with Neymar/Cavani not so much
2. Penalties inflate some of these players numbers, which Mbappe doesn't have the chance to take. Neymar (4), Lacazette (10), Balotelli (4), Falcao (3), Fekir (2), Cavani (2). If you gave Mbappe some free goals all of a sudden his numbers look better.
If both were playing in the same league then yes, not when one plays in French league and other in PL.
Mbappe is a quality young player. Terrific talent, who is having a good season. I'm not sure what people expect on here sometimes. PSG are still second fiddle to the powerhouses of Barca, Real, Bayern etc.. that is in no way unique, it takes time, and more than cash. But that's no shame or reflection on their players.
IF Man City do not win the CL, I wonder whether people will also react in the same way re some of their players. That Real team is a serious outfit. Experience and quality. Terrific.
IF Man City do not win the CL, I wonder whether people will also react in the same way re some of their players. That Real team is a serious outfit. Experience and quality. Terrific.
Free goals? Assists for passing straight to an opposition defender instead of his teammate? I think you are being a little silly here.
Wow, opinions never evolve for you then I suppose
, must be feeling proud of yourself with that little research. Your life must be really excitingWhat you're saying is pure conjecture. Let's look at facts. We've seen Mbappe play against England, he made a mockery of their best defenders. We've seen him in the Champion's League against Juventus where at 18 years old, he was the only danger they focused on with their record-making defense and he still found a way to score. Sure, he is on a stacked team in a weaker league, but he is nowhere near the main man. He's playing in a new position on the right as opposed to the left where he's more effective. He's deferred to Cavani and especially Neymar throughout those games, he's still very prolific this season in the Champion's League and has set records there this season.
So, for one, he's the third option at PSG as opposed to comparing a hypothetical where he would be first at Manchester United or another club, and he's also already shown he can deal with any level of competition.
Still young and is destined to have poor games and inconsistent moments. Still one of the best potential out there.
Don't think PSG is the best team for his development though.
Don't think PSG is the best team for his development though.
Agreed. Arsenal would've been a more amenable destination for him imo.
The hulk version of Walcott.
I don't think PSG are even trying to get the best out of him
At Monaco he was in a team that suited him and we seen amazing results from him
He's playing as a winger but at Monaco wasn't he a striker?
At Monaco he was in a team that suited him and we seen amazing results from him
He's playing as a winger but at Monaco wasn't he a striker?
By that same token, neither would Real Madrid be. He just turned 19 a few months ago, he has all the time in the world to make those big moves down the line.
Disagree. Madrid have been developing players like Isco, Asensio and Kovacic for some time now till they became what they are. For some seasons now they tended to sign several youngsters each season instead of going galacticos route they were doing earlier. Mbappe would have developed there much better than PSG at least.
Can't blame Mbappe for the ridiculous transfer fees etc. He's ok at PSG. I can't see what the issue is here. Because they lost against possibly the best club side in the world?
He's doing ok, but I don't PSG the club that's best suited for his development as a player. Future will only tell.
I don't think him and Neymar being selfish in certain situations and refusing to pass to Cavani has helped their attack's cohesion.
Somehow they've become even less cohesive in attack without Ibra being the focal point.
Somehow they've become even less cohesive in attack without Ibra being the focal point.
Yes, they've done a bang up job with Ceballos. Also, with the amount of credit Benzema has, and the fact that Cristiano couldn't handle having a young Mbappe taking some of his shine, I think there are an equal amount of hypothetical reasons why Madrid would be a worse destination for him after his first professional season.