Kylian Mbappe | Merci.

Mbappe and Rashford can play together completely fine, not sure where the notion comes that they can't coexist. Mbappe can play forward and left, and has played right in the past as well. Garnacho is screwed regardless because the club's best attacking player has his position, unless Garnacho can be converted into a right winger.

If we're getting Mbappe, its because we have Qatari owners. Why are we assuming that the club can't make any more signings? FFP exists but we have a number of outgoing players this summer.

I think you're being incredibly naive here, underestimating the positive impact Mbappe would have here. We haven't had anyone as good as him since the version of Ronaldo we sold to Real over a decade ago.

Very true but even with Qatar ownership we are still massive underdogs for him against Real. Having said that I don't think he's totally ruled us out as suggested by Romain Molina earlier
 
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Come and do 6 years here like Ronaldo and then get your dream world record move to Real, like Ronaldo. Suii come on mate.

Just half of that would be amazing,however no way will I allow myself to get suckered in at all
 
So weird to see all this talk about wage structure as if it wasn't obvious to pay the arguably best player in the world much more than the other players in the squad. FFP is much more of a concern.
 
He knows he holds all the cards here. Can get a hell of a lot more money from PSG if they really want to keep, leave for free next year to pretty much any club he wants for what would again be a shit load of cash, or get his dream move this summer without even having to kick up a fuss.
 
Would agree if Real didn't have such a long standing interest but that is the crucial factor

He's pissed enough people in Madrid last year for them to look for alternatives (almost signing a contract and then "oops"). I don't think he'll be as admired if he goes there, which is why I think we may stand a chance if we make a concrete proposal & have the financial backing to pay his salary.
 
Sounds like a negotiation tactic between PSG and Mbappe's camp. Regardless, he'll most likely join Real Madrid anyway.
 
I hope we sign him and nobody else this summer just so people like you might finally admit that maybe it would be better for us to make a competent squad instead of targetting stupid galactico signings every season, i’m sure one year very soon you’ll start to clock on.
You’re adding a lot of parameters in your last few posts here to make your point.
If we swap Weghorst for Mbappe I believe w would have a lot more points than we ended up with.
Hardly a controversial statement
 
He's pissed enough people in Madrid last year for them to look for alternatives (almost signing a contract and then "oops"). I don't think he'll be as admired if he goes there, which is why I think we may stand a chance if we make a concrete proposal & have the financial backing to pay his salary.
Ronaldo was set to join Madrid in 2008, only to stay with us one more year and even signed a contract extension. He still moved in 2009 anyway. In the world of business people usually act on logic instead of emotions.
 
No. People have assumed that it was his dream due to his passion for Ronaldo. But the reality of the matter is that Mbappé has rejected them 3 times.
French media reported that Mbappe wanted to join Madrid in 2021. Mbappe later confirmed it was true.
He also had a verbal agreement with Madrid last season before changing his mind and extending with PSG.
 
Is there a bigger upgrade in football than us going Weghorst to Mbappe
 
Ronaldo was set to join Madrid in 2008, only to stay with us one more year and even signed a contract extension. He still moved in 2009 anyway. In the world of business people usually act on logic instead of emotions.

United, being a normal club, it makes sense to sell, they had finances to take care of.
PSG is a different case, they have no real need for money, so i doubt very much they will sell, only way to get him is when contract runs out imo.
 
Ronaldo was set to join Madrid in 2008, only to stay with us one more year and even signed a contract extension. He still moved in 2009 anyway. In the world of business people usually act on logic instead of emotions.

The situation was slightly different in the sense Ronaldo was pushing for a move but we didn't want to let him go. Here, Mbappe could have left on a free only to stay back for more money. Clubs act in a professional way, but fans don't. Madrid fans aren't exactly known to be backing their own players, forget opposition players.
 
Times have changed, so has Madrids strategy for recruitment. Instead of buying players in their prime and paying top dollar for them, its now about finding the very best talent at a much younger age.

Financially only City and PSG could blow Madrid out of the water with a financial pacakage. But Madrid have 14 CL in their trophy cabinet and the weather and lifestyle that appeals to many players.

They've just paid 100 million for Bellingham and will likely sign Mbappe as well this summer for well over 100 million, hardly finding young talent is it. When they want a star they go and sign one, history tells us that.
 
French media reported that Mbappe wanted to join Madrid in 2021. Mbappe later confirmed it was true.
He also had a verbal agreement with Madrid last season before changing his mind and extending with PSG.

Neither of these indicate that he dreams to join Real Madrid. The point isn't about whether he would sign for them if he likes what they offer, it's about him dreaming to sign for them and it being an unavoidable outcome. Mbappé's history shows that he has rejected his dream club multiple times since age 14.

Maybe he will sign for them, maybe he won't. No one knows outside of Mbappé himself.
 
Neither of these indicate that he dreams to join Real Madrid. The point isn't about whether he would sign for them if he likes what they offer, it's about him dreaming to sign for them and it being an unavoidable outcome. Mbappé's history shows that he has rejected his dream club multiple times since age 14.

Maybe he will sign for them, maybe he won't. No one knows outside of Mbappé himself.

Yup, there isn't much "written in the stars" about this as some think, he will go/stay where the best offer is, as he has always done.

Image rights, bonuses, wages, last years offer wasn't enough, don't see it be any different this time, unless Perez just plans to fold completely on image rights.
 
Is there a bigger upgrade in football than us going Weghorst to Mbappe

Nope. He'd be a dream signing for me.

Would be fantastic seeing him light up Old Trafford. Might be controversial for some on here, but I think he's a better player atm than CR7 when he left United the 1st time.
 
mbappe is on around a million per week at psg. we're not paying that, ever.
 
Neither of these indicate that he dreams to join Real Madrid. The point isn't about whether he would sign for them if he likes what they offer, it's about him dreaming to sign for them and it being an unavoidable outcome. Mbappé's history shows that he has rejected his dream club multiple times since age 14.

Maybe he will sign for them, maybe he won't. No one knows outside of Mbappé himself.

Madrid is the only club he has been linked to since he joined PSG. I don't recall any rumours about another club. It does feel like if/when he leaves, it will be for Madrid and nowhere else.

He did reject them a few times but he had good reasons to do so on at least two occasions: going to PSG after Monaco for a 19-year-old who grew up in the area was a logical move, and last year, staying meant he would become PSG's all-time top scorer and the world's highest-paid athlete.

That being said, I don't believe he dreams about Madrid anymore. He's too big for that now. I mean, he's bigger than PSG and his national team and he knows Madrid need him as much as he needs them. I wouldn't even put it past him to suprise everyone and sign for another club. Few players would have turned them down at the last minute like he did last season, although I think it was a mistake.
 
Financial matters aside, Mbappe would of course be a significant reinforcement for us. He can finish chances and is very efficient on the break - both qualities are highly sought after.
 
You just gotta love his response - all offended that he's being hung out to dry, and his counterargument is that he's happy to play next season at PSG (and then leave for free). Because obviously the biggest and most absurdly onerous contract in football (giving him a direct say in club matters) isn't good enough. And as if that meant he's showing exemplary loyalty to the club. But I suppose he's exactly what PSG deserves - a primadonna whose chief commitment is to his own celebrity status.

As good as he is, that's quite a circus we're taking on board if we sign him....Not that I think we will. We don't have the money or the glitz, and anyway why would he piss off one set of Qataris just to go to another.
 
......and anyway why would he piss off one set of Qataris just to go to another.
I don't think they would be that pissed, just transferring money between themselves, all part the same project at the end of the day.
 
So weird to see all this talk about wage structure as if it wasn't obvious to pay the arguably best player in the world much more than the other players in the squad. FFP is much more of a concern.
Paying him more is one thing. Paying him the utterly insane amount that it would probably take is another. Unless the reports are completely wrong he's currently on about £1m a week, which is almost as much as our top three earners combined. Plus some reports say he's got huge clauses on top of that as well.
 
Paying him more is one thing. Paying him the utterly insane amount that it would probably take is another. Unless the reports are completely wrong he's currently on about £1m a week, which is almost as much as our top three earners combined. Plus some reports say he's got huge clauses on top of that as well.

Not to forget the clause giving him a say in the running of the club, which is as much of a no-go as I'm able to even imagine.
 
You just gotta love his response - all offended that he's being hung out to dry, and his counterargument is that he's happy to play next season at PSG (and then leave for free). Because obviously the biggest and most absurdly onerous contract in football (giving him a direct say in club matters) isn't good enough. And as if that meant he's showing exemplary loyalty to the club. But I suppose he's exactly what PSG deserves - a primadonna whose chief commitment is to his own celebrity status.

As good as he is, that's quite a circus we're taking on board if we sign him....Not that I think we will. We don't have the money or the glitz, and anyway why would he piss off one set of Qataris just to go to another.

This makes little sense, what was he supposed to do or say?
 
This makes little sense, what was he supposed to do or say?

I don't know, maybe something less obviously disingenious? He's putting the club in a position where they either have to sell him now (and at a big negotiating disadvantage from it being known that he won't even talk to the club about the option year), or lose him for nothing next summer. Sure he's within his rights to do that. But then he can't pretend that he's "very happy at PSG" and that it's somehow false and unfair to imply this points in the direction of a move to Real Madrid this summer.
 
I don't know, maybe something less obviously disingenious? He's putting the club in a position where they either have to sell him now (and at a big negotiating disadvantage from it being known that he won't even talk to the club about the option year), or lose him for nothing next summer. Sure he's within his rights to do that. But then he can't pretend that he's "very happy at PSG" and that it's somehow false and unfair to imply this points in the direction of a move to Real Madrid this summer.

Again this makes no sense, unless you think that Mbappé should extend his contract forever. And it's PSG that used their mouthpiece to tell everyone that Mbappé notified them that he wouldn't trigger the extension clause which is something that he had to do before July 31st.

So let me ask you this, should he have waited until July 31st to notify PSG? Or maybe should he extend his contract forever because even if he had triggered the clause, the same situation would have applied in 12 months?
 
Wouldn't expect PSG to "cash in".

He could see how the team at Madrid develops and choose to go there next year. Either way it could be a good time to move should he want to or perhaps if things improve at PSG he could be convinced to stay longer, more so if Madrid choose different targets although I'm sure Perez is eager for Mbappe and will keep the door open despite past issues.
 
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Sounds like a negotiation tactic between PSG and Mbappe's camp. Regardless, he'll most likely join Real Madrid anyway.

Yep which is why I am struggling to get excited with this one as can't see him coming here. Would love to have him at Utd but he's always had his heart set on Real Madrid.
 
This is just a typical PR move to control the narrative and make it seem like PSG are the ones that pushed him out.
Who cares? It’s PSG. He could set fire to their ground and I’d be jubilant.
 
Again this makes no sense, unless you think that Mbappé should extend his contract forever. And it's PSG that used their mouthpiece to tell everyone that Mbappé notified them that he wouldn't trigger the extension clause which is something that he had to do before July 31st.

So let me ask you this, should he have waited until July 31st to notify PSG? Or maybe should he extend his contract forever because even if he had triggered the clause, the same situation would have applied in 12 months?

You don't know that it was the club that leaked the notification. And of course he's not obligated to extend his contract. But nor can he reasonably expect PSG to sit on their hands and wait for his contract to run out. If he doesn't want to extend, then he is engineering exactly the situation he claims not to seek - one where he must be sold this summer. Nor can he credibly claim to be happy at PSG - if he's happy, then why isn't he extending? Either he's just full of it, or he genuinely doesn't understand (or care about) the implications of his own actions.

I didn’t ask to leave PSG or to join Real Madrid. I just told the club that I won’t activate the option to extend the contract until June 2025
“We never discussed new deal with PSG but I’m happy to stay here next season”, told Gazzetta dello Sport.


Yeah well, deciding not to activate the option pretty much amounts to asking to leave. Because anything else would be hugely detrimental to the club, and hugely beneficial to himself, as well as to Real.
 
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This is just a typical PR move to control the narrative and make it seem like PSG are the ones that pushed him out.

Again this makes no sense. PSG are the ones who made public that he wasn't triggering the clause, they are also the ones who said that they don't want to let him go for free in 2024 and will try to sell. 24 hours later PSG's mouthpiece changed their tune and claimed that Mbappé asked to leave. The PR and narrative control has been done by PSG, the tweet that you quoted is an answer to Le Parisien.