Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy
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I may end up looking like a complete plank but, what specifically, justifies the Mbappe hype?
It just seemed like the transfer talk around this kid took on a life of its own. He's clearly going to be a real star but the numbers being tossed around him are insane. Neymar has at least got an incredible record for both Brazil and Barcelona.
Mbappe has had one good season in top class football. From what I've seen of him Mbappe has a lot of potential. He's quick, has very good close control and pretty good finishing especially on the run. For £150 million+ I'd want someone guaranteed to hit the back of the net at least as often as Neymar has though. I would want to look at a player and, without hesitation, be able to say that kid is going to be what Luiz Ronaldo would've without the knee problems.
It kind of feels like this one has run away with itself a little bit. Mbappe looks a real talent. However, to my eyes, his ceiling is not a clear £100m higher than someone like Martial's. Its great marketing from Monaco to be getting these big fees for these bright young things. Still, we're talking about Mbappe being twice as constly as Cristiano Ronaldo. Even in a world where City spend £50m on full backs that seems a bit much.
It just seemed like the transfer talk around this kid took on a life of its own. He's clearly going to be a real star but the numbers being tossed around him are insane. Neymar has at least got an incredible record for both Brazil and Barcelona.
Mbappe has had one good season in top class football. From what I've seen of him Mbappe has a lot of potential. He's quick, has very good close control and pretty good finishing especially on the run. For £150 million+ I'd want someone guaranteed to hit the back of the net at least as often as Neymar has though. I would want to look at a player and, without hesitation, be able to say that kid is going to be what Luiz Ronaldo would've without the knee problems.
It kind of feels like this one has run away with itself a little bit. Mbappe looks a real talent. However, to my eyes, his ceiling is not a clear £100m higher than someone like Martial's. Its great marketing from Monaco to be getting these big fees for these bright young things. Still, we're talking about Mbappe being twice as constly as Cristiano Ronaldo. Even in a world where City spend £50m on full backs that seems a bit much.
Age/Nationality/Performances in the CL/Personnality/A mad world
With 18 he should be more brave and his performances should define if he can play or not.
If he thinks that is not good enough or his self confidence is low then Madrid is not his destination.
Nobody is willing to pay 160m€ for Odegaard.Mbappe has won a league and played C.L semifinal.
Obviously with that market price he will get minutes,what it's very different to demand the exit of an attacking player.
I guess that he is willing to play in his city which is fine.
I wonder what would happen if Paris only offer 6m€,as Madrid.
I expect UEFA are pissing their pants at the prospect of the big clubs creating their own alternate version of the CL. The way UEFA has repeatedly caved in the to requests of those big clubs over the last few years points in this direction. If PSG breach FFP, those big clubs will demand blood(heck, the spanish league is already doing that and PSG haven't done anything wrong yet. Juventus and Bayern reportedly were very receptive of Barca's appeal to an anti-PSG alliance), and UEFA will have to cave in, again. Especially because if they don't they will lose all credibility, not just with those big clubs but with every big european FA(other than maybe the French)Really? You expect EUFA to come down hard on PSG?
If PSG do indeed end up signing Mbappe, you have to assume that they are going to be selling some players too. I can't imagine that the likes of Di Maria, Pastore, Draxler and Moura are all going to be happy sitting on the bench when Neymar and Mbappe start ahead of them. I think Draxler and Di Maria in particular should be starting games at whatever club they are at, not waiting to come on from the bench or filling in for injuries.
I know the oligopoly (mafia cartels) wants to keep the hand on the business.
Madrid,United,Barcelona money is related to football.Paris is a not stop fountain of money,which is coming from a country blocked by their neighbours and probably accomplice with terrorism,which is worse than Mafia.
Terrorism is a complex matter and Western countries or its neighbours are not so innocent in the chaos there...
Also, this country is blacklisted for many reasons, the major reason being the fact that Qatar wants to have good relationships with Iran.
Qatar spends the money coming from the gas business (mainly Asian consumers). I understand your point: proper money vs dirty money.
Happy to learn that Real Madrid wants to eradicate terrorism
Also, I refuse to choose between the plague and cholera.
I was hoping Barca would swoop him up since it would simultaneously end a bunch of stories I am tired of.
this is a free market... Mafia clubs do not want to leave their space, and surely Mbappé and Neymar are in France 100% for the sports project, and If I say terrorism you name the WesternTerrorism is a complex matter and Western countries or its neighbours are not so innocent in the chaos there...
Also, this country is blacklisted for many reasons, the major reason being the fact that Qatar wants to have good relationships with Iran.
Qatar spends the money coming from the gas business (mainly Asian consumers). I understand your point: proper money vs dirty money.
Happy to learn that Real Madrid wants to eradicate terrorism
Also, I refuse to choose between the plague and cholera.
. @Ecstatic ,I think you take the criticism of your team too seriously. I imagine that you lack habit, or at least I notice that the tone of your posts are different these weeks. In any case, time will tell.
I'm an ignorant about FFP rules so maybe everything is fine and I´ll agree with you in the future
this is a free market... Mafia clubs do not want to leave their space, and surely Mbappé and Neymar are in France 100% for the sports project, and If I say terrorism you name the Western
@Ecstatic ,I think you take the criticism of your team too seriously. I imagine that you lack habit, or at least I notice that the tone of your posts are different these weeks. In any case, time will tell.
I'm an ignorant about FFP rules so maybe everything is fine and I´ll agree with you in the future
We are all ignorant of the FFP in a certain sense: we just know there will be some meetings between the UEFA and PSG... and a decision will be taken after that.
Manchester City and PSG spent a lot of money in the last years and never won the Champions League.
I'm certainly overly ironic recently and bored of the scare-mongering but I gradually progress: I write less (repetitive so boring) posts
Now you understand
"Under-pressure PSG slow down Mbappe pursuit"
http://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2017/08/15/599339d846163f40768b45aa.html
@Ecstatic
http://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2017/08/15/599339d846163f40768b45aa.html
@Ecstatic
I was watching an ESPN show and they mentioned something about FFP being a violation of a company or owners rights. UEFA should have no power to enforce such a thing and are under investigation or under the eye of the European court or something. So UEFA/Fifa whomever are now back tracking FFP as they don't want the legal hassle so effectively they are more scared of their illegal actions/sanctions than what PSG are spending.
Also let's look at tho differently. Let's say PSG do break the rules and get a two year ban. From what I can see their team is quite future proof as long as they don't lose many. Can't say I'm an Abi's watcher of PSG but I'd imagine Silva and Motta and that LB Maxwell are really the only age concerns they have? They probably could sit out two windows happily.
Now on Mbappe choosing them over Madrid makes sense to me and I'd imagine the arrival of Neymar is also a big thing in his decision. Madrid do see, to have moved away from the Galactico model and do seem to be buying up young talent but Ronaldo,Bale and Benzema are probably going to be there for a while yet.
At PSG he's likely to be a main stay in the first team for the present and future where he isn't going to get that at Real. The kid wants to play football as he sees that as the best way to improve. I don't think it has anything to do with him not having the self confidence to play at Real I just think he is being smart with his career and probably making the right decision.
Also so Real are the pinnacle right now but PSG are for me almost there to challenge. They needed some sort of difference maker, a superstar that could just create magic like Neymar did against them and now they have him so I'd suspect Juventus, PSG, Bayern and Real to be the contenders for CL glory.
It's also not his fault the money being offered for him. That's just teams wanting to be the first to get him because maybe in 2-3years they would have to pay double that and they are all scrambling for a true world class talent.
Also let's look at tho differently. Let's say PSG do break the rules and get a two year ban. From what I can see their team is quite future proof as long as they don't lose many. Can't say I'm an Abi's watcher of PSG but I'd imagine Silva and Motta and that LB Maxwell are really the only age concerns they have? They probably could sit out two windows happily.
Now on Mbappe choosing them over Madrid makes sense to me and I'd imagine the arrival of Neymar is also a big thing in his decision. Madrid do see, to have moved away from the Galactico model and do seem to be buying up young talent but Ronaldo,Bale and Benzema are probably going to be there for a while yet.
At PSG he's likely to be a main stay in the first team for the present and future where he isn't going to get that at Real. The kid wants to play football as he sees that as the best way to improve. I don't think it has anything to do with him not having the self confidence to play at Real I just think he is being smart with his career and probably making the right decision.
Also so Real are the pinnacle right now but PSG are for me almost there to challenge. They needed some sort of difference maker, a superstar that could just create magic like Neymar did against them and now they have him so I'd suspect Juventus, PSG, Bayern and Real to be the contenders for CL glory.
It's also not his fault the money being offered for him. That's just teams wanting to be the first to get him because maybe in 2-3years they would have to pay double that and they are all scrambling for a true world class talent.
"Under-pressure PSG slow down Mbappe pursuit"
http://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2017/08/15/599339d846163f40768b45aa.html
@Ecstatic
If PSG is still trying to get Mbappé or/and Fabinho, it means the Neymar's acquisition doesn't fully block PSG
Nope. It's approved by a EU commission and accepted by the clubs(who are the ones that pushed for it in the first place). PSG is among the clubs that approved FFP, there's nothing they can do about it
Whoever said that on ESPN is woefully uninformed
Woefully uninformed indeed. This joint statement between UEFA and the EU was released in 2012. Maybe an age ago for UEFA and its new leadership, but the EU takes stuff like this seriously, though it must be said that it’s massive bureaucratic apparatus moves very slowly
http://ec.europa.eu/competition/sectors/sports/joint_statement_en.pdf
'Lawyer Emmanuel Daoud argued in a statement that the rule goes against the fundamental principles of competition law within the European Union. '
'suing the French football federation and the league "to denounce the multiple infringements of European Union law caused by the UEFA break-even requirement."
Apparently there is currently a case on going through the French court system.
He is getting the De gea treatment. I think he will stay though, its a world cup year and he needs to be playing regularly. In familiar surroundings he will be able to show his talent. In new surrounding with a 150 million plus price tag on his head and pressure to perform it may all come down crashing, its not like the fact that the clubs wont be there next season. If he has a good world cup and a good season, he will be worth even more.
Staying at monaco will makes much sense. Would be a huge risk if he left.
Staying at monaco will makes much sense. Would be a huge risk if he left.
Our responsibility is to protect the kid from the media storm around him.
Jardim might say it's their responsibility to protect him now that he's feeling the pressure, but the little shit did bring it all on himself. Was very debonair with the jokes on social media, now that things are starting to get real, can't handle it.
Si jeunesse savait, si vieillesse pouvait.
Si jeunesse savait, si vieillesse pouvait.
He's obviously signing for PSG any day now.
What the hell is wrong with you? Mbappe's been nothing but respectful and has simply stayed quiet, even when all the media in France kept trying to talk to him about his next move. If anything for an 18 years old, he has been incredibly mature about the circus going on around him.
He has not been mature, he bought into the hype, and played with it. Thought he was made out of Teflon and would have fun with the whole thing. But that's the thing when you're 18, arrogance kills you. He brought it on himself. The litany of videos, the teasing, it all caught up to him and whoever is his comm team( or lack of one).
What's happening now? No team.
Barca should just move for him since they are struggling getting Dembele and Real currently do not have a spot for him.
Monaco's system is VERY unique*. Much like Dortmund's has been over the years. I think Mbappe has been made to look better than he is, just like all those Dortmund players before him.
Having said that, "better than he is" as an 18 year old, still translates to "potentially World Class". But I don't think his ultimate potential all that far above several other wunderkinder over the last few years. It's certainly not inevitable he'll be one of the top ten players in the world.
* I know that's a redundant intensifier, but I wanted to make a point
Having said that, "better than he is" as an 18 year old, still translates to "potentially World Class". But I don't think his ultimate potential all that far above several other wunderkinder over the last few years. It's certainly not inevitable he'll be one of the top ten players in the world.
* I know that's a redundant intensifier, but I wanted to make a point
Bit surprised he is supposed to be going to PSG after they shelled out on Neymar, thought he was more likely to go to Real or Barcelona.
Neither seem that interested at the moment. Pre-Zidane, Perez would have been all over this but don't think Zidane wants to disrupt the team and is happy with Asensio and Isco.
You are probably right, but a bit of a blow for Monaco losing him to their main Ligue 1 rival, to say the least. Didn't want to see him signing for one of United's PL rivals though.
Since they are selling all their players, we can get Lemar
That's how I feel. Looks a major talent for sure but the hype and the figures seem a bit much.
Its hillarious for barca To make anti psg alliance and put pressure on uefa.
If psg sell some players they are fine. None of this would be a fuss if psg bought from smaller clubs and not the madrid and barca players or targets. Why aint Barca making a anti city alliance as well , they have been spending the same amounts.
Zidane has put sense into madrid's approach , he seems to really learning lessons from the " Why put another layer of gold paint on the Bentley when you are losing the entire engine?" comment from him when he was a madrid player.
Good sentence.I'll use it in other forums pretending that is mine
Apparently he wanted wages on par with senior players at madrid so RM told him to f off, I dont think Barca will want to mess up their wage structure as well. Mbappe has bargained himself into a corner asking for crazy wages like that.
thought Wenger was confident of getting him.
My favorite Monaco player. I'd take him before M'Bappé any day of the week.
PSG made him a ridiculous offer, which well, we can't match because it might feck up the dressing room. Similar to Pogba last year. We'd like him but at our conditions, but there's another club that wants him way more and the player wants/is happy to go there
Though if we go by L'Equipe and MundoDeportivo/Sport, the offer Barca made to Dembele is even crazier
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