Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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The inevitable, desperate attempt to save face by Real Madrid. It's already been widely reported that the player chose PSG because he wanted to stay close to his family and wanted assurances of regular game time.
This is for me a weak mentality from his side and it disappointed me when I heard it (assuming it is all true of course). Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world and he has everything to prove, who does he think he is to demand assurances of game time ?
 
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This is for me a weak mentality from his side and it disappointed me when I heard it (assuming it is all true of course). Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world and he has everything to prove, how does he think he is to demand assurances of game time ?
Agree.I don't like those game time demandings and probably his new team mates even less
 
This is for me a weak mentality from his side and it disappointed me when I heard it (assuming it is all true of course). Real Madrid is the biggest club in the world and he has everything to prove, who does he think he is to demand assurances of game time ?
I think he's right to demand game time and I commend him for it. Too many young players have ruined their footballing careers because they jumped at the opportunity of playing for RM too early. He is a promising young lad at a crucial stage of his development and he is right to look after it.

Ronaldo could have made the jump straight from Sporting to RM but he chose United because SAF gave him assurances he'd play more and look where he is.
 
Agree.I don't like those game time demandings and probably his new team mates even less
Hazard did the same thing when deciding between Man United and Chelsea and I hated it back then but Hazard did prove his worth far longer than M'Bappé and he wasn't choosing to join the 2 time CL champions. These rumors could be false but I honestly think there is some truth and if that is the case, Real Madrid did well there.
 
I think he's right to demand game time and I commend him for it. Too many young players have ruined their footballing careers because they jumped at the opportunity of playing for RM too early. He is a promising young lad at a crucial stage of his development and he is right to look after it.

Ronaldo could have made the jump straight from Sporting to RM but he chose United because SAF gave him assurances he'd play more and look where he is.
SAF giving you assurances and you demanding them is a bit different don't you think ? He's played half a season at a good level, how can he demand to be given time as what would most likely be a starter ? If they're interested in him, it's because Zidane has a plan on using him, he wouldn't not play him anyway no ?
 
SAF giving you assurances and you demanding them is a bit different don't you think ? He's played half a season at a good level, how can he demand to be given time as what would most likely be a starter ? If they're interested in him, it's because Zidane has a plan on using him, he wouldn't not play him anyway no ?
We're arguing about sematics here. Maybe he didn't demand it and he just wanted to play for whoever offered him more game time just like Ronaldo?


Also you never know with RM. They are full of egomaniacs that kick up a fuss and demand a player gets relegated to the bench because he chose to take a shot rather than passing it to them instead.
 
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SAF giving you assurances and you demanding them is a bit different don't you think ? He's played half a season at a good level, how can he demand to be given time as what would most likely be a starter ? If they're interested in him, it's because Zidane has a plan on using him, he wouldn't not play him anyway no ?
The whole picture coming out of madrid pretty much since the beginning was that Zidane didn't want to deal with the hassle of dealing with sharing minutes between the BBC, Isco, Asensio, Lucas and Mbappé. That his stance was always one of the BBC must go for Mbappé to join

Honestly i dunno how much this has got to do with him demanding playing time, as opposed to one club's pitching a better offer(not just economical. PSG told Mbappé they wanted him to make him one of their centerpieces, and backed it up with their wage offer and willingness to pay Monaco's price. They showed him they really wanted him now) while the other was more indecisive(yeah we'd like you, but i dunno, we already have a lot of great players in your position...you'd be coming in as a highly rated prospect initially, you'd be given an important role of course, but hey if you wanna wait for a year that's fine with us as well, plus Monaco's price is very high....)
 
We're arguing about sematics here. Maybe he didn't demand it and he just wanted to play for whoever offered him more game time just like Ronaldo?


Also you never know with RM. They are full of egotistical superstars that kick up a fuss and demand a player gets relegated to the bench because he chose to take a shot rather than passing it to them instead.
Maybe he did or maybe he didn't, I know I've heard/read plenty rumors on it is all that he wants to be given clear assurances of playing. I mean I just find it weird.
The whole picture coming out of madrid pretty much since the beginning was that Zidane didn't want to deal with the hassle of dealing with sharing minutes between the BBC, Isco, Asensio, Lucas and Mbappé. That his stance was always one of the BBC must go for Mbappé to join

Honestly i dunno how much this has got to do with him demanding playing time, as opposed to one club's pitching a better offer(not just economical. PSG told Mbappé they wanted him to make him one of their centerpieces, and backed it up with their wage offer and willingness to pay Monaco's price. They showed him they really wanted him now) while the other was more indecisive(yeah we'd like you, but i dunno, we already have a lot of great players in your position...you'd be coming in as a highly rated prospect initially, you'd be given an important role of course, but hey if you wanna wait for a year that's fine with us as well, plus Monaco's price is very high....)
Yes, I think so too. It's up to M'Bappé to choose between a sort of rotation at Real Madrid (the club of his "dreams") or a much more defined and clear role at PSG (knowing that joining Real Madrid after will be near impossible for a long time).
 
He's human, plus he's 18. On the one hand he has a club telling him he's the best in the world and they want him to be the starof their team and cover him in gold. On the other is a club telling him he's talented and interesting and also expensive and not particularly needed at the moment

Dreams or not, who'd resist PSG's pitch in hopes of one day hearing the same things from Madrid?
 
He's human, plus he's 18. On the one hand he has a club telling him he's the best in the world and they want him to be the starof their team and cover him in gold. On the other is a club telling him he's talented and interesting and also expensive and not particularly needed at the moment

Dreams or not, who'd resist PSG's pitch in hopes of one day hearing the same things from Madrid?
They cannot truly tell him that anymore with Neymar being there no ? Either way, he'd still have much more guarantees and assurances from PSG than Real Madrid only because PSG is a whore when it tries to attract big names.
 
If I was him id so at least one more season at Monaco, low pressure environment at a decent level of football at also can hine his skills in the champions league.

Be silly to go to Madrid at his age as talented as he is it's not always the best place to develop.
 
If I was him id so at least one more season at Monaco, low pressure environment at a decent level of football at also can hine his skills in the champions league.

Be silly to go to Madrid at his age as talented as he is it's not always the best place to develop.
That's one argument... the flip side is he could sustain a career ending injury next match so personally id sign a five year let's say 12m a year contract as soon as I could if i were him
 
They cannot truly tell him that anymore with Neymar being there no ? Either way, he'd still have much more guarantees and assurances from PSG than Real Madrid only because PSG is a whore when it tries to attract big names.
Plus he was born in bondy which is a suburb of paris...about 6 miles outside the centre so factor in friends, family... the language / culture... PSG seems pretty logical even without factoring in the fact they will probably pay the highest wages as well
 
Plus he was born in bondy which is a suburb of paris...about 6 miles outside the centre so factor in friends, family... the language / culture... PSG seems pretty logical even without factoring in the fact they will probably pay the highest wages as well

Mbappé Official Twitter account >>>>> 11th August





You can see Bondy and his "First football pitch"
 


Translation: Mbappe demanded 200K a week salary from Madrid, to which they replied "Congratulations and good luck in Paris".

Not sure how true this is, but if it is, its' sad he is making these demands after one good half season at his age. Though I don't hate PSG, this is perhaps going a bit too far -- they might as well buy the CL trophy and be done with it.


I think demanding £200k a week is a little on the low side! Forget age, you know they're willing to pay €180m euros for you, making you the second highest transfer ever (only beaten by Neymar who's on £515k net).

I'd be asking for £400k net.
 
Plus he was born in bondy which is a suburb of paris...about 6 miles outside the centre so factor in friends, family... the language / culture... PSG seems pretty logical even without factoring in the fact they will probably pay the highest wages as well
If Real Madrid showed the same level of intereste, without a doubt he'd join them but at the moment PSG is the favorite.
 
I think demanding £200k a week is a little on the low side! Forget age, you know they're willing to pay €180m euros for you, making you the second highest transfer ever (only beaten by Neymar who's on £515k net).

I'd be asking for £400k net.
That's what he's doing. Twitter post said he's getting €12M a year net. L'Equipe said yesterday it's actually €18M net
 
That's what he's doing. Twitter post said he's getting €12M a year net. L'Equipe said yesterday it's actually €18M net

Ah well good for him! I have no problems with players asking for crazy money if the club buying him clearly thinks he's worth crazy money.
 
I think demanding £200k a week is a little on the low side! Forget age, you know they're willing to pay €180m euros for you, making you the second highest transfer ever (only beaten by Neymar who's on £515k net).

I'd be asking for £400k net.
agree with what you're saying but they might argue we're taking a risk (to a degree) paying this much for you, hence you're "initial" paypack is going to be this as we're not paying for a world star yet. But then imagine what his renewal salary will be in 2 years or so
 
agree with what you're saying but they might argue we're taking a risk (to a degree) paying this much for you, hence you're "initial" paypack is going to be this as we're not paying for a world star yet. But then imagine what his renewal salary will be in 2 years or so

They'd be rightful laughed at by him/his agent, I hate these fees etc but if a club is willing to take a £180m risk on someone then I'm sure they could risk £400k a week too, if it goes tits up its their own fault.
 
yeah I know. I was just thinking of other teenage players that went for a lot of money (Neymar / Rooney) and both weren't on amazing money to start with even though their fees were huge given their age / achievement etc.
 
That's one argument... the flip side is he could sustain a career ending injury next match so personally id sign a five year let's say 12m a year contract as soon as I could if i were him
It's true but that would be very unlucky. I would give him a new deal and give him a gentleman's agreement to let him go next year.
 
Another reason why PSG might try so hard is that they're lacking the required number of homegrown players for the Champions League.

So far they have Areola (GK), Descamps (3rd GK if not loaned out), Kimpembe, Kurzawa, Rabiot, Nkunku and Matuidi if Aurier and Ben Arfa leave. The closest youngsters to the first team have either been sold (Augustin and Sabaly) or loaned (Ikoné, Robail, Bahebeck, Pereira de Sa) while a few others should be loaned soon (Georgen, Edouard and Callegari). Some of their hottest prospects have been "stolen" by other clubs (Fodé Ball Touré by Lille and Zagadou by Dortmund), so there is no one left ready to step up.

They need at least one homegrown player if Aurier and Ben Arfa leave while Matuidi stays. And the later is closer to leaving than staying, so if Matuidi leaves they could be forced to add a pure prospect (Diaby or Dagba ?) who is not really close to the first team.

This said, I haven't heard M'Bappé demanding anything from Real Madrid. But it would make sens from him in private to pay attention to his game time in a WC year at 18 and give priority to Paris.
 
After one good season smh. Madness. I suppose this is just another drop in the ocean for the criminals that run PSG though.

It wasn't even the whole season either, he really exploded at around Christmas time which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.

Mbappe could very well have a Martial like follow up season and whoever pays £160 million and £200k a week wages is going to have serious egg on their face.
 
It wasn't even the whole season either, he really exploded at around Christmas time which makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.

That was mostly due to the concussion he suffered. Every one in football in France knew about Mbappe for years, and this was his first official season as an integrated player, then the concussion happened so his coming out party was delayed, but once it happened, he blew every one's expectations away. It could just be a flash in the pan, but for many this was just him doing what many thought him capable for years.

As far as the demands for playing time, I have no problems with that. It's a WC year, he's shown he's capable of scoring against anyone, and he's still developing his game. It's not time to go to a new team if it's to lose playing time. I think all of us agreed it might be too soon for Madrid, and I think Kylian himself thought that as well. He mentioned several times that he's young and that one should join Madrid when their game is at the top.

I think if Monaco sell him to PSG, it's a very weak move from them. He should either be sold to Madrid or a Premier league team, not a direct rival. But if he is sold, I don't believe it will even come close to Neymar's fee, it be probably half up-front, and big chunks if he wins the Ballon d'Or or wins the WC being in the top scorers, they're all possible to achieve for him, but they won't be easy especially at his age and relative inexperience in stringing seasons together and being consistent.
 
The thing about him saying it's too early to go to madrid - clearly he doesn't believe that since he's going to PSG. He's not coming to madrid because PSG made him a better offer, or a good enough offer that he couldn't refuse. That's all we know for sure, for now
 
The thing about him saying it's too early to go to madrid - clearly he doesn't believe that since he's going to PSG. He's not coming to madrid because PSG made him a better offer, or a good enough offer that he couldn't refuse. That's all we know for sure, for now

I think there still is a major difference between going to Madrid or PSG, especially in the locker room and the politics that go on there. It's a world of difference. In PSG, he is playing in his hometown, in his country, that he will represent at the world cup. In Madrid, he'd be in a poisonous pit of locker room egos who won't take too kindly to a kid who can barely buy a drink making as much money as them and getting playing time over them with 6 months of work behind him.

Benched for tonight's game

Very telling, his move should be announced next week; I don't think this is due to the little knock he got last week.
 
I don't know about saving face for Real Madrid, but they are not Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime either and I'd have a lot more respect for them if they truly said that.

As shady as they are, they're not puppets. Still a fan-run club.
 
Another reason why PSG might try so hard is that they're lacking the required number of homegrown players for the Champions League.

So far they have Areola (GK), Descamps (3rd GK if not loaned out), Kimpembe, Kurzawa, Rabiot, Nkunku and Matuidi if Aurier and Ben Arfa leave. The closest youngsters to the first team have either been sold (Augustin and Sabaly) or loaned (Ikoné, Robail, Bahebeck, Pereira de Sa) while a few others should be loaned soon (Georgen, Edouard and Callegari). Some of their hottest prospects have been "stolen" by other clubs (Fodé Ball Touré by Lille and Zagadou by Dortmund), so there is no one left ready to step up.

They need at least one homegrown player if Aurier and Ben Arfa leave while Matuidi stays. And the later is closer to leaving than staying, so if Matuidi leaves they could be forced to add a pure prospect (Diaby or Dagba ?) who is not really close to the first team.

This said, I haven't heard M'Bappé demanding anything from Real Madrid. But it would make sens from him in private to pay attention to his game time in a WC year at 18 and give priority to Paris.

Great post.
 
The thing about him saying it's too early to go to madrid - clearly he doesn't believe that since he's going to PSG. He's not coming to madrid because PSG made him a better offer, or a good enough offer that he couldn't refuse. That's all we know for sure, for now

I think we all know nothing about what happens behind the scenes :p
 
How PSG could get this deal plus the Neymar past FFP rules is beyond me.
 
What is the penalty for breaching FFP? Maybe the reward outweighs the penance? Kind of like how bankers commit fraud for trillions and pay a few hundred millions as a penalty for it.
 
What is the penalty for breaching FFP? Maybe the reward outweighs the penance? Kind of like how bankers commit fraud for trillions and pay a few hundred millions as a penalty for it.
there's no fixed penalty. It's at UEFA's discretion. Though if PSG breach it, i expect UEFA will bring the banhammer on them, regardless of how bad it is. ECA will be on their back to make sure of it
 
there's no fixed penalty. It's at UEFA's discretion. Though if PSG breach it, i expect UEFA will bring the banhammer on them, regardless of how bad it is. ECA will be on their back to make sure of it

So they get banned a year or two from there possibly? I don't think it's a serious enough penalty and I'd risk it if I can get the best thing after CR7/Neymar from Brazil and potentially the best thing from France. They're pretty secured for the next few years although their midfield could use a boost along with another defender and GK.
 
So they get banned a year or two from there possibly? I don't think it's a serious enough penalty and I'd risk it if I can get the best thing after CR7/Neymar from Brazil and potentially the best thing from France. They're pretty secured for the next few years although their midfield could use a boost along with another defender and GK.
They get a 1 year ban, and they'd still have to fix it by the next year or they'd get another ban, most likely
 
And people talk about Neymar potentially winning the CL with PSG being some sort of dragging an underdog to the top story. They're state funded and can afford pretty much anyone. They'll be winning big ears soon either way. It's ineivitible. Would have been hilarious if Monaco did it last season instead. Would have pissed them off endlessly and there's infinite more glory in winning it that way than how PsG will.
 
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