Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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To contemplate that kind of money for a human being is insane.

This guy has played 6 months of first team football and is still a kid. I actually feel a bit sorry for him with all the hype around him. How can he keep his feet on the ground? I just hope he has the right people round him.

What's worse, just imagine if he signed and gets a serious injury. I know this goes for any player but he has started playing top level football at such a young age. History has shown if your not managed right (highly doubtful when you pay £143m) it could damage him long term.
 
Why though? Gabriel Jesus and Agüero, what do they need him for? I'd argue that G. Jesus looks just as talented as Mbappe.

Why not both? :wenger:

This guy has played 6 months of first team football and is still a kid. I actually feel a bit sorry for him with all the hype around him. How can he keep his feet on the ground? I just hope he has the right people round him.

I'm not worried about him. He's no Anelka, he's got a good head on his shoulders and is well-surrounded.
 
I don't care what anyone in the world says it's way too much of a risk to spend that much on a player. I'm one of Mbappe's biggest fans and I genuinely think he's one of the best talents I have seen in the last 10-20 years but unless he hits the same numbers as Messi and Ronaldo then he's not worth that amount of money.

God forbid, If he ever got a serious injury in his first season. Literally pissing 180 million down the drain
 
Why though? Gabriel Jesus and Agüero, what do they need him for? I'd argue that G. Jesus looks just as talented as Mbappe.

I think last season has really spooked Guardiola.

First time he ever ended a season empty handed, so he's making sure that doesn't happen again by spending £300-£400m in one Summer.
 
I don't care what anyone in the world says it's way too much of a risk to spend that much on a player. I'm one of Mbappe's biggest fans and I genuinely think he's one of the best talents I have seen in the last 10-20 years but unless he hits the same numbers as Messi and Ronaldo then he's not worth that amount of money.

God forbid, If he ever got a serious injury in his first season. Literally pissing 180 million down the drain

In reality, there's a risk with every transfer.

Hindsight is 20/20, but there were plenty of Real fans who thought Kaka was the better transfer than Ronaldo back in 2009. Ronaldo turned out to be a major success, while Kaka was a disappointment.
 
In reality, there's a risk with every transfer.

Hindsight is 20/20, but there were plenty of Real fans who thought Kaka was the better transfer than Ronaldo back in 2009. Ronaldo turned out to be a major success, while Kaka was a disappointment.

But the thing is, Kaka and Ronaldo were ready made stars who both won the Champions League before they came to Real in 2009. Mpappe is a young kid, to put that amount of pressure on a kid I don't think it can be good for him. I rate him highly and he seems a level headed lad but If he went for the money involved, I think it will play a big part in his development.

I actually want to see him do well because he's on terms as having the same amount of talent as Ronaldo (Brazil) had a young age and the game needs talents like him
 
Why not both? :wenger:



I'm not worried about him. He's no Anelka, he's got a good head on his shoulders and is well-surrounded.

Because they already have 2 very good players for 1 position and won't be able to keep all 3 happy? I also don't really want to see 2 of the most talented attacking players at City.
 
But the thing is, Kaka and Ronaldo were ready made stars who both won the Champions League before they came to Real in 2009. Mpappe is a young kid, to put that amount of pressure on a kid I don't think it can be good for him. I rate him highly and he seems a level headed lad but If he went for the money involved, I think it will play a big part in his development.

I actually want to see him do well because he's on terms as having the same amount of talent as Ronaldo (Brazil) had a young age and the game needs talents like him

Yeah they were ready made stars. And I think plenty of people back then would have said they'd both succeed heavily at Real. And in the end, only 1 of them did. I think back then, you'd classify them both as certs to be a successful transfer.

That was my point basically. You never know how it'll work out.

Personally, I think he'd make a mistake moving to Real specifically at this point in time. I don't know how he and Ronaldo mesh together up front. I do think he is heavily talented and I agree there's similarities with Ronaldo(Brazil).
 
Because they already have 2 very good players for 1 position and won't be able to keep all 3 happy? I also don't really want to see 2 of the most talented attacking players at City.

I was kind of mocking City's approach with sarcasm, it doesn't translate well on a thread. I think Pep would have to tweak his tactics and Aguero would be gone or have a reduced role. You can't spend a world record bid and shun a talent like Gabriel Jesus (if he manages to stay healthy, what a talent). Pep is crazy but he's not a fool. He'll figure something out if he gets him, which I hope he doesn't.
 
What are City going to do with so many attackers?

Pep's going to implement a revolutionary reverse 3-5-2 (2-5-3) formation, with Walker and Mendy as false-inside centre backs.

Ederson

Walker-Mendy

Sterling-Silva-Silva-De Bruyne-Sane

Jesus-Aguero-Mbappe

Because feck CBs.
 
Yeah they were ready made stars. And I think plenty of people back then would have said they'd both succeed heavily at Real. And in the end, only 1 of them did. I think back then, you'd classify them both as certs to be a successful transfer.

That was my point basically. You never know how it'll work out.

Personally, I think he'd make a mistake moving to Real specifically at this point in time. I don't know how he and Ronaldo mesh together up front. I do think he is heavily talented and I agree there's similarities with Ronaldo(Brazil).

Funny enough I think If he did move to Real, having Ronaldo at the club as the main man would take some pressure off him. People would look more to Ronaldo to bring the goods then Mbappe which would help him in the early stages but long-term would be different obviously.
 
Pep's going to implement a revolutionary reverse 3-5-2 (2-5-3) formation, with Walker and Mendy as false-inside centre backs.

Ederson

Walker-Mendy

Sterling-Silva-Silva-De Bruyne-Sane

Jesus-Aguero-Mbappe

Because feck CBs.

With how bad their defense is, they probably wouldn't be that worse off doing this FIFA line-up.
 
What are City going to do with so many attackers?
If it was to happen, it would just be the medium-term (or immediate-term) replacement for Aguero. You'd have a front 3 of Sane, Mbappe and Jesus all coming together for years to come. Perfect world and all that. Either way expect Madrid to move quickly if their rumoured interest is genuine now.
 
Pep's going to implement a revolutionary reverse 3-5-2 (2-5-3) formation, with Walker and Mendy as false-inside centre backs.

Ederson

Walker-Mendy

Sterling-Silva-Silva-De Bruyne-Sane

Jesus-Aguero-Mbappe

Because feck CBs.

Wow, that was fast.
MCFC already got Mbappe?
 
What are City going to do with so many attackers?
It's pep guardiola. He'll find a way to fit them all in although I believe this is further confirmation that he wants to phase Aguero out of the club in a similar way we did with Rooney. There is a young squad being built at City and it seems Aguero is the odd one out. If they did sign Mbappe then he will be the one to make way. It actually makes sense for them because it allows him to play a fluid interchanging front three of Sané, Mbappe and Jesus with Sterling as another option depending on form and injuries.
 
6 months, and many says he is a every 10 years gem happens in football.

History-wise, all the best world class attackers were talent proven longer than just 6 months. Even in their youth.

E.g :
Messi, CR7, Neymar, Ronaldo the ori, Ronaldinho, Van Basten, Henry, Ibrahimovic...even the ones who debatable named as world class attackers like Aguero, Alexis Sanchez, and Suarez.

Why dont RM try to hijack Neymar, like Figo case than gambling on Mbappe ?
 
Go on Woody, you know you want to break that world record fee again.
 
If you bought Mbappe for 150 million and he flops what do you do? If he is a success is there and sell on value? You would have to sell him for 200 million at if he threw a hissy and asked to leave. Any buying club would bluff the arse off you to get him on the cheap. This is a kid with less than a season playing in a not very good French League. Real Madrid will eventually buy him just to show they are still the kings of the transfer system. That lad is going to feel a lot of pressure if he goes there.
 
Implying what exactly?

Sanches got minutes, he just turned out to be shit.

No young player turns out to be shit after just one poor season. I still rate him highly, but it is his application and willingness to improve himself that bothers me more.

Talking about minutes, these are the appearances for Sanches last season :
  • Bundesliga - 17 appearances
  • Pokal - 2 and
  • CL - 6.
Hardly what you would call absolute faith reposed in him. Good luck getting in a side that had Xabi Alonso, Arturo Vidal and Thiago for starting berths in midfield, along with Javi Martinez who can also do a decent job sitting infront of the defence.

My usage of the word "treated" implies how we fans treat a young player - one who has a fantastic year, impresses the whole footballing world and ends up getting a move to one of the elite clubs; then gets nowhere because there are already a lot of talented and determined pros who raise their game resulting in unfair criticism on the lad.
 
He would be best advised to stay at least one more year at Monaco. Better even he made it two years, he will still be able to make a move to a top club at the age of 20 so not miss out on too much money. Maybe he could even get an improved deal from Monaco if he promises to stay another 2-3 years.
 
He wont move for the amount that is being reported and be a bench warmer. If he getting a move to a bigger club, there is no reason to wait.
 
If City pull this off it'll demonstrate Guardiola's impeccable managerial credentials. It takes a preternatural coaching talent to take over one of the most expensively assembled squads in history and say "feck this, I can't achieve anything with this garbage - buy me a new team for half a billion quid". Genius.
 
I don't understand the wages being quoted if the fee is to be believed. I know he's only young but that doesn't seem to stop the fee being extortionate, does it? If Real buy for €160m + €20m add-ons (roughly £160m) and then pay the guy €7m a year (c.€130k pw or just over £100k) it seems a bit unbalanced to me. But that's football in 2017 I suppose!
 
It's borderline bonkers this deal, makes more sense if he goes to Real than us, because we are genuinely stacked. Having said that, Pep is a huge admirer of this kid and it doesn't surprise me that clubs are willing to pay that type of money after his first season in top flight, IIRC Monaco rejected a 45m bid from us last transfer window (and that's after we got Gabriel Jesus). And at that point he had just played 2 matches for the senior team, just goes on to show how highly the clubs rated him since the beginning.
 
It's borderline bonkers this deal, makes more sense if he goes to Real than us, because we are genuinely stacked. Having said that, Pep is a huge admirer of this kid and it doesn't surprise me that clubs are willing to pay that type of money after his first season in top flight, IIRC Monaco rejected a 45m bid from us last transfer window (and that's after we got Gabriel Jesus). And at that point he had just played 2 matches for the senior team, just goes on to show how highly the clubs rated him since the beginning.

Exactly the point I'm making. He's not an one season wonder, scouts have been following him for years now.

PS: Are you Indian?
 
Asking 80m for their bench warmer would also constitute as destroying the market. That would actually dramatically reduce their net spend.

Then EPL is the one destroying it, because no one forced Chelsea to buy him. The could have simply bought some striker from 11th. team in EPL.....and paid even more! :D



Real Madrid are the reason transfers are so hiked now it all started with Figo for £51 in 2000, then Zidane £62 million in 2001, then again in 2009 with £80 million for Ronaldo and then again in 2013 with £86 million for Bale.

You guys ruined football you're the sole reason the likes of United, City and PSG have to pay ridiculous fees now.

Only that's not how the market works. Look at the names you're using in your argument. Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo, Bale. At the same time Real Madrid never spent the kind of money EPL clubs are spending on dross. That is your and only your contribution to the market.

The funny thing is there was no reason for the market to follow Madrid footsteps. There was nothing to follow and no reason at all for prices to go up like they did. You are talking about few superstars signed by Madrid in the span of last 14 years and in that period other clubs from other leagues never signed players of that caliber and they also never overpaid for mediocrity. Neymar and Suarez signings prove my point.
Aside from Higuain (which was a statement signing more then anything else) and Di Maria no serious club in Europe (EPL excluded) signed a player for more then 50 mil € ever.

You should now understand that you just don't get it. Nothing changed in the world. EPL got more money so all the players in EPL are now worth that much more and traded for that much more (in your little bubble market). The rest of Europe is using the situation and charging EPL clubs what they can because you are showing them the way, but between themselves Spain, Germany, Italy, France and Portugal keep prices on a reasonable level and you'll never see a player like Walker or Mendy going for that kind of money if it's not to EPL.


Our net spend is almost 600m in the negative to you guys and yet we earn way more revenue than you guys?

United do earn way more only if you don't know how to read. Real Madrid has been leading the revenue list of world football for last 11 years in a row. Your new Adidas and Chevy deals are the reason why you took over last year but that won't last long because soon Madrid's contracts are up for renewal.



Posting some random numbers from a propaganda Twitter account is always nice. Please tell me you actually believe they are correct.

They are probably not correct, but if you'd go to transfermarkt right now to check the numbers, there's no doubt the list would be identical, only difference in $$ would be somewhat different.
 
If City pull this off it'll demonstrate Guardiola's impeccable managerial credentials. It takes a preternatural coaching talent to take over one of the most expensively assembled squads in history and say "feck this, I can't achieve anything with this garbage - buy me a new team for half a billion quid". Genius.

I honestly can't get over how he gets away with it. From the best team of all time falling in his lap, moving to one of the other best and guaranteed to win teams and finally as you say spending enough money to ensure there is no doubt!

I've said it before a granny could do what he has done!
 
I don't understand the wages being quoted if the fee is to be believed. I know he's only young but that doesn't seem to stop the fee being extortionate, does it? If Real buy for €160m + €20m add-ons (roughly £160m) and then pay the guy €7m a year (c.€130k pw or just over £100k) it seems a bit unbalanced to me. But that's football in 2017 I suppose!
Surely part of the reason the transfer fee is so high is that the wages the player is demanding are relatively low. He may also be entitled to a % of the transfer fee.
 
I don't understand the wages being quoted if the fee is to be believed. I know he's only young but that doesn't seem to stop the fee being extortionate, does it? If Real buy for €160m + €20m add-ons (roughly £160m) and then pay the guy €7m a year (c.€130k pw or just over £100k) it seems a bit unbalanced to me. But that's football in 2017 I suppose!
7mil net, not gross.
 
It's borderline bonkers this deal, makes more sense if he goes to Real than us, because we are genuinely stacked. Having said that, Pep is a huge admirer of this kid and it doesn't surprise me that clubs are willing to pay that type of money after his first season in top flight, IIRC Monaco rejected a 45m bid from us last transfer window (and that's after we got Gabriel Jesus). And at that point he had just played 2 matches for the senior team, just goes on to show how highly the clubs rated him since the beginning.
Aye, clubs have been chasing him since he was 12-13. He recently joked at an interview when quizzed on Real's interest saying he's used to it as they've been trying to sign him since he was 12.
 
Unreal numbers being thrown about.

The risk on his potential is huge. He's clearly extremely good, but no player is that much of a sure thing at 18/19. Glad we're not in the frame, not that we currently have the draw of Madrid nor the willingness to spend that kind of money as City seem to suddenly have again.

Mourinho called it though, Pogba's fee will start to look more normal soon enough.
 
Reading of this situation looks pretty straightforward. Mbappe initially agreed to stay at Monaco for one more season (guarantee playing time ahead of World Cup) and there was an understanding that they'd sell him to Real next year.
Since then he's watched several of his teammates move on and has decided he needs to leave this summer.
Real are now left scrambling to fund a deal they planned for next summer and make space in their squad to avoid another club (City) getting a deal done now.
 
Reading of this situation looks pretty straightforward. Mbappe initially agreed to stay at Monaco for one more season (guarantee playing time ahead of World Cup) and there was an understanding that they'd sell him to Real next year.
Since then he's watched several of his teammates move on and has decided he needs to leave this summer.
Real are now left scrambling to fund a deal they planned for next summer and make space in their squad to avoid another club (City) getting a deal done now.

Real are still pretty rich. Don't see why they cannot afford this deal especially after Morata and Danillo sales.
 
The problem with that logic is that you forgot two things, first in most leagues around the world and in Europe football isn't a business or isn't a good one. And the current clubs who makes money have been helped for decades by wealthy local and sometimes non local men/women.

The only thing that should be done is to make sure that football clubs aren't endangered by reckless investments in contracts.
Real are still pretty rich. Don't see why they cannot afford this deal especially after Morata and Danillo sales.

This. I don't understand why people in here act like if other big clubs cannot buy players at high price. Madrid has been rather meek in the market the last couple of years and are sitting on a ton of cash. On top of that, they have a new kit deal coming up.
 


Sky and BBC saying no bid from City and have no intention at prices being quoted. Looks like its Real alone.
 




Sky and BBC saying no bid from City and have no intention at prices being quoted. Looks like its Real alone.

Well Pep could have denied their interest in him in their press conference but didn't. Looks like he rejected them. The deluded ones on bluemoon were convinced they were getting him.

Quite fitting a year after United beat Real to Pogba, City should be reminded about their place in world football.
 
I don't believe those numbers. People mean to tell me that you could get 1 Dembele+ 1 Lewandowski for the price of 1 Mbappe?

Add to that the salary and the insurance premiums which are going to be astronomical...
 
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