Then we should look to do dembele deal as soon as possible.
Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy
- Thread starter Zoo
- Start date
- Status
Then we should look to do dembele deal as soon as possible.
Remember when we signed Ronaldo for 12m 
I think FIFA will soon need to step in and set some sort of spending cap linked to turnover +transfer fees linked to salary. Otherwise we'll end up with a 5 or 6 team layer cake and that cannot be good in the long term.
Isn't that what FFP was?
Love sonny's mathematics.
New big screen TV costs the same as 3 decent laptops.
So the tv costs nothing.
New big screen TV costs the same as 3 decent laptops.
So the tv costs nothing.
Kid hasn't even scored in any of his friendlies this season, he's clearly overrated! Not worth it.
On a more serious note, I don't believe the figure is that high, but if it is then good on Monaco and no way they would reject it. I just don't think a formal bid has been made by Madrid or City for that matter. I think only PSG has actually put out an official bid this summer.
It's going to be a difficult transition for Mbappe, maybe not so much on the field but in the locker room and with the Spanish press. The RM locker room can be one of the most toxic and difficult to deal with, especially if you become the most expensive player in the world off 6 months of work and don't light up the Bernabeu right away. I wish him good luck if he does go through with it and it happens, but it's a really risky move for such a young age. From Monaco's POV, I see why go through with it. This is a guy they got for nothing, played half a season with them, and now they can sell him for a world record fee. However, for Mbappe, what's the rush? This kid will still be 18 years old by December, he's got so much time on his hands before becoming part of one of the most difficult environment to play professionally, without speaking the language, and with very little body of work to rest on and buy himself some time if he doesn't hit the ground running.
I like his confidence, but sometimes you bite off more than you can chew, I hope it won't be the case with him.
On a more serious note, I don't believe the figure is that high, but if it is then good on Monaco and no way they would reject it. I just don't think a formal bid has been made by Madrid or City for that matter. I think only PSG has actually put out an official bid this summer.
It's going to be a difficult transition for Mbappe, maybe not so much on the field but in the locker room and with the Spanish press. The RM locker room can be one of the most toxic and difficult to deal with, especially if you become the most expensive player in the world off 6 months of work and don't light up the Bernabeu right away. I wish him good luck if he does go through with it and it happens, but it's a really risky move for such a young age. From Monaco's POV, I see why go through with it. This is a guy they got for nothing, played half a season with them, and now they can sell him for a world record fee. However, for Mbappe, what's the rush? This kid will still be 18 years old by December, he's got so much time on his hands before becoming part of one of the most difficult environment to play professionally, without speaking the language, and with very little body of work to rest on and buy himself some time if he doesn't hit the ground running.
I like his confidence, but sometimes you bite off more than you can chew, I hope it won't be the case with him.
It's fecked. My Dad works at United and the Glazers will cut literally any corner to save money. We're talking about the most pedantic stuff imaginable, like limiting the number of free brews the ground staff can have. Meanwhile, inside the stadium they're giving players £250k contracts and paying agents millions in fees. The success doesn't benefit the ordinary Joe, just the pampered millionaires who show up for a few hours a week. That's just a tiny microcosm of what football - and society - is about these days.
In context with the history of the sport it's revolting.
Are you one of those Eckersley brothers from that massive family in Salford?
Depends. Are you a manager at United?
Only messing. You mean a relative of Adam or Richard? No, I'm not. Do share their surname though so we're probably distantly related.
By Eck.
Yeah, but it had way too many loopholes. They need to close them.
There are no loopholes, FFP isn't meant to do what you are dreaming about.
Then it needs to be replaced with something else. What I'm dreaming about like you say.
Star Wars Accounting principle
Remember when we signed Ronaldo for 12m
At the time it was a fecking fortune for a talent..
The problem with that logic is that you forgot two things, first in most leagues around the world and in Europe football isn't a business or isn't a good one. And the current clubs who makes money have been helped for decades by wealthy local and sometimes non local men/women.
The only thing that should be done is to make sure that football clubs aren't endangered by reckless investments in contracts.
Hope we bid world record fee for Mbappe just to feck Real Madrid up even though he isn't coming.
Sir Alex on Lucas Moura in 2012: "I find it quite amazing that a club can pay €45 million for a 19-year-old boy,"
Sir Alex on 27M£ Wayne Rooney in 2004: "I am very excited. I think we have got the best young player this country has seen in the past 30 years,"
I'd say that was pretty accurate.
Still kind of hypocritical though.
He spent 37m€ on a 18 years old boy. SAF wasn't surprised at all about that fee in 2012 and even less when he was among the bidders and we made an offer well above 30m.
Not sure I understand your logic. Just because they're selling players for obscene money means they aren't destroying the market by constantly raising the WR bar, in this case, by 50 % and for a teenager (however good)? Not that I'm angry because they've always been like that and they aren't taking our targets these days but that's simply true.
Last edited:
Sorry. Completed missed the point you were making before. Silly me.
Agreed.
I think the market is destroying itself. It's a bubble that could burst sometime soon, maybe with Mbappe failing to make an impact and becoming a flop. I doubt it'll actually happen, but if it did it would put a damper on spending so much on someone still relatively unproven over the long term. Or what if PSG actually gets Neymar, and he goes all Ronaldinho on them and loses focus, fitness, and overall impact and becomes a flop as well. It's not a crazy scenario and it would definitely burst the bubble.
To blame Real Madrid for the 'destruction' of the market is laughable when you have PSG, Manchester City or United with Pogba and Martial. Let's be honest here, everybody is guilty because that's just the climate we live in. What people have to understand is that if clubs are willing to pay that much, they know what they're doing. The impact and revenues players can generate with the social media channels that weren't even there less than a decade ago makes them all worthwhile investments beyond impact on the field (although it all starts with that).
Fwiw, it was a damn good deal for United in hindsight.
I wonder if we'll say the same about Mbappe in the future, but at the prices quoted he's going to have to be very, very good over a number of years.
Thing is, why do they need to overpay? It's a well-estabilished fact that Madrid, alongside some Italian powerhouses back in the day, have always been raising the unthinkable amount limit. They are lucky they bought some of their core players before inflation we see now. When they bought Bale for a WR fee clubs started to think they have similar/even better players in their ranks so why not go even higher?
I won't be a hypocrite and cynically repeat what some of us say, like: 'Pogba's fee will prove reasonable (or even cheap!) in a few years' time. It's true but only because big clubs believe so and the cycle continues. Juventus must have thought that a player of similar calibre to Bale, few years later must fetch close to 100m. let's wait what will happen if Madrid get Mbappe for 160m or whatever it is. Any well-estabilished world-class player up there with the very best and still in his mid-twenties could be seen as a potential 200m player. Whereas it doesn't destroy us for we have more money Madrid have anyway, clubs like Ajax will never get back to their glory days in a world where a decent player cost 40-50m, so roughly 4 times they can normally afford.
His reasoning is flawed of course, but if you have three laptops surplus to requirements and you want a new shiny TV, I'd say you've done some good business if they cost the same.
Not really. We signed Rooney for 26m the following season.
Costed nothing "means" that they found the money by selling others player who were already amortized
And ?
This was at a time where we were low balling PSV, when we thought we were nailed on to sign Arjen Robben and made daft £6mill offers when they wanted around £10mill, and Chelsea just swooped in and forked out £12mill to get the deal done..
Saha cost the same as Ronaldo..Kewell went to Liverpool for £5mill. Xabi Alonso was £10mill
The reported £12mill for Ronaldo was considered quite high.
Last edited:
Come on Madrid, fecking sign him and sell us Bale!
City have bid 146m for him.
It'd end up being an inflated price. They'll make us fund Mbappe.
But, I don't think it's overpaying. It's what the market is dictating right now. Like I said in my previous post, I'm not calling any clubs out, even on the Pogba fee, I think Pogba will be worth that sum, but I don't think he'll be worth it solely on the field. We can see how he's a personality that draws people in, he can have an impact on future transfers (as he may already have with Lukaku or Griezmann had it not been for the transfer ban), and he's a marketing machine with a huge audience on social media. If someone is willing to sign the check, you best believe they know they'll make much more than what they invested in.
No one is safe from an injury or a sudden loss of form, but with the money generated from players who are long past their peak (Ronaldinho, Beckham to name a couple), it's always a gamble worth taking. I don't believe Madrid has paid the sum being bandied around for Mbappe, it seems overkill and hyperbole but if it's true, it's a big gamble but they can afford to take it. It also helps smaller clubs who can land on a prodigy to really find a way to generate money they never could before and improve in ways that weren't possible before. It's not all bad, it's just obscene to the average person out there, rightfully so. Someone earlier posted about the Man Utd stadium staff feeling the cutbacks while the sums become astronomical but that's just business. No one cares about the little man in a hyper-competitive world. It's sad, but that's just the way it is.
Why though? Gabriel Jesus and Agüero, what do they need him for? I'd argue that G. Jesus looks just as talented as Mbappe.
I think he'd make a mistake moving to Real now. Should wait.
I don't think he and Ronaldo are compatible as a partnership personally.
I don't think he and Ronaldo are compatible as a partnership personally.
- Status