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Think he's talking aboutthe Celtic Dembele.If you are referring to Ousmane he broke out last season.
There's too many Dembeles in football
Think he's talking aboutthe Celtic Dembele.If you are referring to Ousmane he broke out last season.
I don't think we have a transfer budget. If Mourinho wants someone, Ed is definitely not going to turn around and say no you've spent too much.
Not me.For feck's sake, who has the patience to go through pages 1-18.
If Messi, Neymar and Suarez can work together, why can't Martial, Rashford and Mbappe do the same?Mbappe would only hinder the progress of Martial and Rashford. Adding the 110m on top of it, we are getting rinsed here. I think we should buy Griezmann and spend the money on midfield and defense.
sure he willYep Martial will say the manager gave him more than enough chances and just wanted him to work hard in training and he let himself down.
Oh my god, just imagining Martial, Rashford and Mpabbe the interchanging and fluidity would be beautiful.If Messi, Neymar and Suarez can work together, why can't Martial, Rashford and Mbappe do the same?
Oh my god, just imagining Martial, Rashford and Mpabbe the interchanging and fluidity would be beautiful.
sure he will
Because they are twice the footballers if not 3 times the footballers that martial rash and mbappe are.If Messi, Neymar and Suarez can work together, why can't Martial, Rashford and Mbappe do the same?
Because Martial and Rashford are nothing like Messi and Neymar.. you cant just stick 3 of your best attackers upfront and expect them to play like Barca. Rashford relies a lot on his pace to beat people and neither him nor Martial are particularly good playmakers.If Messi, Neymar and Suarez can work together, why can't Martial, Rashford and Mbappe do the same?
If Messi, Neymar and Suarez can work together, why can't Martial, Rashford and Mbappe do the same?
Duh!Because they are twice the footballers if not 3 times the footballers that martial rash and mbappe are.
No one said that they are. All three of Martial, Rashford and Mbappe can play wide or move into the middle. All 3 have great movement when they are allowed freedom, that's why it would work. What they need is creativity and ammunition behind them.Because Martial and Rashford are nothing like Messi and Neymar.. you cant just stick 3 of your best attackers upfront and expect them to play like Barca. Rashford relies a lot on his pace to beat people and neither him nor Martial are particularly good playmakers.
I'm sure they'll be gaining a few more starts for their national team as they gain more experience.Because all three are not even starters in their national sides yet.
Apologies it's hard to tell sarcasm online, some posters genuinely would ask that questionDuh!
Sorry for the rebuttal. I thought you were trying to be clever. I am not that delusional to think that Martial, Rashford and Mbappe are anywhere close to Messi, Neymar and Suarez. People keep saying that signing Mbappe would be a detriment to Martial and Rashford's progress which I disagree with. If those 3 superstars can play together without hindrence to the team, why can't our players along with Mbappe do the same. All 3 of them can play through the middle and pull out wide. All 3 of them have great movement and are constantly on the go. It all depends on who is behind them providing the ammunition.Apologies it's hard to tell sarcasm online, some posters genuinely would ask that question
If a person calls another person they probably do give a feck what the other person would say.Was tongue in cheek pal. I highly doubt Mbappe will call Martial and if he does I doubt he'd give a feck what he had to say tbh.
You don't necessarily need one of the front three to be good playmakers if your midfield provides that. Bale, Ronaldo and Benzema have got barley any playmaking quality in them but it doesn't matter because they've got the best midfield in the world behind.Because Martial and Rashford are nothing like Messi and Neymar.. you cant just stick 3 of your best attackers upfront and expect them to play like Barca. Rashford relies a lot on his pace to beat people and neither him nor Martial are particularly good playmakers.
If a person calls another person they probably do give a feck what the other person would say.
I'm not being entirely seriously.There's a chance he wouldn't be interested in a move but if that was the case we can assume it wouldn't be because of a phone call to Martial pal. No-one even knows if they're friends for starters.
I'm not being entirely seriously.
I don't think footballers are that influenced by their friends anyway. Money, prestige, chances of success etc. are key.
I keep hearing this argument on here. It's complete BS. Actually watch us play before claiming we have the best midfield in the world(we don't) who provide our strikers the playmaking necessary to get them goals(they don't, unless you consider putting in a million crosses per game great playmaking)You don't necessarily need one of the front three to be good playmakers if your midfield provides that. Bale, Ronaldo and Benzema have got barley any playmaking quality in them but it doesn't matter because they've got the best midfield in the world behind.
They do. Playmaking doesn't involve only playing through passes. Getting the crosser into a great position quickly through a quick transition into forward areas is exactly what a great midfield does. You have the best CM in the world in Modric and another excellent one in kroos. How many great midfielders do you want exactly?I keep hearing this argument on here. It's complete BS. Actually watch us play before claiming we have the best midfield in the world(we don't) who provide our strikers the playmaking necessary to get them goals(they don't, unless you consider putting in a million crosses per game great playmaking)
And how is Benzema not a playmaker exactly? He's our best playmaker by far. His problem is consistency. We only play well when he does. Our saving grace is that we have enough individual talent that we can find ways to score, and all of our primary goalscorers(cristiano, bale, benzema, morata, ramos) are terrifying in the air. So we cross a lot, and score a lot from crosses
Thus proving you haven't seen us play at all this season.They do. Playmaking doesn't involve only playing through passes. Getting the crosser into a great position quickly through a quick transition into forward areas is exactly what a great midfield does. You have the best CM in the world in Modric and another excellent one in kroos. How many great midfielders do you want exactly?
Benzema a playmaker. Made me chuckle. When people list the great playmakers, I'm sure they'll talk about Maradona, Messi, Pirlo, Zidane and.... Benzema.
I have. But okay, your midfield is crap.Thus proving you haven't seen us play at all this season.
Carry on
If we're talking about Barca playmakers you'd put Iniesta and Xavi ahead of Messing right? Although perhaps would prove otherwise.
Sorry for the rebuttal. I thought you were trying to be clever. I am not that delusional to think that Martial, Rashford and Mbappe are anywhere close to Messi, Neymar and Suarez. People keep saying that signing Mbappe would be a detriment to Martial and Rashford's progress which I disagree with. If those 3 superstars can play together without hindrence to the team, why can't our players along with Mbappe do the same. All 3 of them can play through the middle and pull out wide. All 3 of them have great movement and are constantly on the go. It all depends on who is behind them providing the ammunition.
I personally thnk Mbappe will be an absolute superstar in a couple of years, and the time to sign him would be before he goes to Real, Bara, City or Chelsea, not after he has been with them for a few years. If he signs for them and they let him go, then that means he has not reached the heights expected of him, and would not be worth signing anyway. His progress will depend on how hard he is willing to work and his attitude. Rashford looks as if he has his head screwed on right, but I worry about Martial a bit.
Another thing that keeps getting mentioned is his age, but people forget that we had an 18 and 19 year old who played together and saved our season last year. There are a few things that have not gone right with both of them this year, but them being young is not one of them. They have not had the opportunites to play through the middle as much as last year because of Ibra.
If Messi, Neymar and Suarez can work together, why can't Martial, Rashford and Mbappe do the same?
He was wanted last summer for big money but it's true that when England discover a player, they go over the top.
He looks class but the money being mentioned is a little insane considering it's his first proper season, in France too. I don't think Monaco are going to sell more than one player to us in the same window, I would prefer to go strengthen midfield with Bakayoko.I like a bit of variation with ages too. Rashford, Martial, Mbappe very similar ages. Like a more mid 20's proven player up front, it could take him a year or two to proper settle. He's a quality talent though, very good to watch
Our midfield isn't crap. It's not the best in the world and is completely wrong for our forwards. And Benzema is certainly no Zidane, but as far as playmaking attackers go, he's no slouch. You mentioned moving the ball quickly? That's what Benzema does for us. Far more so than Modric or Kroos.I have. But okay, your midfield is crap.
My point applied across seasons though. You've never had any great playmakers in your front three for ages, and it's not been an issue.
Think it's really unlikely that Monaco will hold into Mbappe for next season. If not us, someone else will nab him.Agreed. Let him develop for another year. Chances are the hype will subside once he's had more time in the spotlight. We should be looking at Fabinho or Mendy.
If the price being quoted for him is true and Monaco insist on it, he'll stay next season. Not even Madrid would pay that fee. Monaco are also not under pressure to sell.Think it's really unlikely that Monaco will hold into Mbappe for next season. If not us, someone else will nab him.
Those deals are structured based on performances so it'd be 40 odd upfront and then a bunch of payments based on performances. Won't be a problem for the big clubs.If the price being quoted for him is true and Monaco insist on it, he'll stay next season. Not even Madrid would pay that fee. Monaco are also not under pressure to sell.
I'm completely fine with that. We can't allow our club strategy to get hijacked by the emotional exuberance or the fear of missing out. If we get Griezmann, Fabinho, and Bonucci or the like - that will be our best window ever.