I was going to write something similar. Look how Depay is performing in a poorer league. We might find out a great one season buy is another Depay
Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy
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I saw him for Monaco and he only played a few games as a #9 for us, his movement in general is not good enough to be a #9, he doesn't make enough runs or create space with smart movement to lead the line and his best attribute is running with the ball from deeper with the extra space on the flank, centrally he can't use his dribbling as he gets crowded out.
Thing is different with even Monaco Martial. They were also a more transitioning team and there were more space for him to run to. Video ain't really fair indication. You need to watch game. Same problem, want ball at his feet instead of off ball movement. Someone like Mbappe is clearly better at this for the same age as Martial.
As other already pointed out, Mbappe has already put his name out in the U20 tournament(?), has been good since breaking through at the end of last season. He was approached by Real Madrid before choosing Monaco too. He is the kind of player who has pedigree and destined to make it even at young age. We're talking about top top talent here. Very different from Memphis.
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If we buy this lad, pay how many tens of millions is needed, chances are he'll end up playing on the wing. If he plays well we'll say great and than in few years time if he keeps it up, Madrid will inevitably come knocking and since he himself stated he's Ronaldo and Madrid fan, I don't see how we will keep him here.
If he underperforms will be saying our usual "he hasn't got the right attitude and mentality" to play for us and ship him off in favour of another boy wonder that emerges in meanwhile.
If he underperforms will be saying our usual "he hasn't got the right attitude and mentality" to play for us and ship him off in favour of another boy wonder that emerges in meanwhile.
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I think you stated that bit yourself.
Don't let the truth get in the way of your story bud....
While he has played left wing for us mostly, one of the few here who have watched him rise in French football @JPRouve believes he is a striker and was trained for that position even if he was given chances there at Monaco. I don't think it's cut and dry what martial's best position is. At 21 Ronaldo's end product was average and he was nothing in the air. Players develop and it's not as linear as people often think.
I hope we're not getting this lad. Let him stay at Monaco and develop. If we miss out on him, then so be it. Unless we get the proper personnel in to guide these young players, they're not going to work here with Mourinho. It is what it is.
Otherwise we're just throwing money away imho.
Otherwise we're just throwing money away imho.
Nah, I've read it somewhere. https://www.google.rs/amp/www.daily...-striker-Kylian-Mbappe-new-Thierry-Henry.html
During summer 2015, Jardim announced that he would be Monaco's striker in an interview with Lequipe and then he started the season as the main striker.
We keep hearing that Rashford has been learning and gaining a lot of experience from Zlatan. Honestly, I can't see what he has learned. He hasn't been able to prove himself when Zlatan was banned for the past 3 games. It's sad but Rashford had a break out season like Januzaj and is living in mediocrity this season.
Martial on the other hand has a lot of potential but he just can't seem to take that responsibility of scoring more goals or creating a lot more.
Don't get me wrong, I'm huge fans of Martial and Rashford but the matter of the fact is that they just haven't progressed as much this season.
In the case of Lingard, I don't really expect much from him. He'll always be a bench player and someone who scores the odd goal. So his performance today was pretty much what I expected him to do.
Mkhi was very disappointing. His first touches let him down but should have scored when had the opportunity.
Nothing to say much about Rooney except that his presence wasn't felt much until towards the end when he wasted a minute arguing with the ref and throwing people to the floor. Rooney needs to leave graciously. Just not good enough anymore and does not exude captain like qualities.
We need strikers who are actual goal scorers and Rashford and Martial don't clearly fit that bill.
Martial on the other hand has a lot of potential but he just can't seem to take that responsibility of scoring more goals or creating a lot more.
Don't get me wrong, I'm huge fans of Martial and Rashford but the matter of the fact is that they just haven't progressed as much this season.
In the case of Lingard, I don't really expect much from him. He'll always be a bench player and someone who scores the odd goal. So his performance today was pretty much what I expected him to do.
Mkhi was very disappointing. His first touches let him down but should have scored when had the opportunity.
Nothing to say much about Rooney except that his presence wasn't felt much until towards the end when he wasted a minute arguing with the ref and throwing people to the floor. Rooney needs to leave graciously. Just not good enough anymore and does not exude captain like qualities.
We need strikers who are actual goal scorers and Rashford and Martial don't clearly fit that bill.
Looks very talented. However like others have already pointed out it is a gamble. Would rather we went for a safer option. If he develops further, we can try to acquire in the near future.
Stop the presses. He follows another club and liked a picture of his France teammate.
Pretty much sums up the modern day fans mentality, buy the next great talent, when they don't instantly perform, ramble on about how they're not all that and move on to the next one.
I think Mbappe should have a good look at the progress and treatment of Shaw, Martial and Rashford this season before he considers for Mourinho.
I'd wager if Mbappe moves he'll be going somewhere that will give him regular game time. I don't see where he'd play for United, not a winger and not going to displace Ibra. So I'd guess he won't be coming to Old Trafford regardless.
I love how there's an element on here blaming Jose for players not performing, or in Shaws case not training. Martial has had plenty of gametime this season, he's not kicked on it happens, second season syndrome is a regular occurrence. Rashford is also getting lots of games, just he's going through a dry spell in front of goal. It's not the mangers fault he's not converting chances...
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Giving Martial and Rashford heaps of game time despite the fact that they've been dissapointing and benching Shaw because he's not putting in the required effort? Yep, I'm sure that would put Mbappe off joining.
Martial and Rashford have been rested every time they have a bad game, they haven't got consistent chances to play. Players like Rooney, Fellaini, Ibra etc have been given more chances even when they were playing badly, why can't Jose do the same for these 2? Maybe you can put the required effort if both of your legs were broken and you were recovering from it.
Mins played this season:
Rashford: 2162
Rooney: 1883
Martial: 1868
Fellaini: 1787
Premier league starts this season:
Rashford: 12
Rooney: 9
Martial: 12
Fellaini: 12
That's simply wrong, since both Martial and Rashford have just about been shite since the Hull game early on in the season and have still gotten heaps of game time. Also, Fellaini plays in a completely different position and has been better this season than both of them, he's done decent whenever he's played. He's also hardly gotten more chances than them as he's been benched for more larger portions of the season than them. Rooney isn't even worth discussing because he's barely featured in months, so that's wrong. Ibra hasn't been benched because without him we'd be fighting relegation. He's the only one that can manage to score one or two of the thousand chances we create.
That seals it. Dream crushed. To the Sneijder thread.
None of these players have been treated unfairly. They have simply not performed to the manager's standard and he's completely within his rights to not automatically feature them every game.
Zlatan was missing easy chances at the start of the season but Mourinho still persisted with him, then there were matches where it looked like Zlatan couldn't come up with brilliant goals to win us the match but was still not taken off. Pogba has had bad games still Mourinho persisted with him. I'm not saying that they should play every game, I am saying they can play against weaker teams or when Zlatan plays badly. When Zlatan and Pogba have been given leeway why can't it be the same for Rashford or Martial?
Zlatan is an experienced player who has actually knocked in 26 goals so far. He brings results, experience, and leadership to the field of play. Comparing these kids to him is laughable, and if Saturday's performance was any indication, we miss Zlatan far more than we miss the others.
Rashford has been used on the wings, he is a striker not a winger. Martial has been criticised in public by Jose and has been subbed off or rested after a bad game. When Jose can criticise other players why didn't he criticise Zlatan or Pogba or Fellaini in public after so many draws?
Not to mention that the alternative in these positions are not as extensive as in the wide/10 roles. Players won't just be played in those roles, as the competition is much more fierce, and no options are world class talent that is levels above the rest. If we had Neymar, he might be given games to reach Neymar levels, whereas Martial wouldn't play every game while Rashford is waiting, as the disparity isn't huge. Pogba is also so much better than the likes of Fellaini or whoever, so he will naturally get more leeway.
He literally spoke about Zlatan in that exact same interview, saying he doesn't know if he would have proved to be the difference because he also misses a lot of chances.
Check the interview again. He said he don't know if Zlatan would have made difference as her missed chances on other games.
Oclbviuusly he is protecting Pogba from all media nonsense.
Linked with us again a few days ago. Le10 or something like that.
we're going for James Rodriguez now
I'm not having that.
I'm not having that.
Le10sport isn't a source.
Carrick and Fellaini in midfield, Chelsea's reject on the right, Real's reject in the center, Martial on the left and hopefully we will partner Rodriguez with yet another Real's reject Morata.
Carrick and Fellaini in midfield, Chelsea's reject on the right, Real's reject in the center, Martial on the left and hopefully we will partner Rodriguez with yet another Real's reject Morata.
Haha I like it!…except for the one little thing...
There's no Coentrao In there!
Who need Coentrao when we've got Shaw?
Please lord lets bring back Chicharito and bring in Mariano Diaz for less than half the cost it would take to aquire Mbappe
Love Coentrao. Love him.
Love Coentrao. Love him.
But Coentrao has an advantage over Shaw...he's Madrid reject.
He ain't bad.
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