Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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Mmmbappe, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du
Kylian yeah
 
Too soon for chant talk, but would a reworking of the Hanson's MMMBop lyrics work for a chant if we get him? Probably to cringey for you-all, sounds better in my head lol.

Mmmbappé, duba
Du bappé, du
Yeah, yeah
Mmmbappé, duba
Du bappé, du
Oh yeah
Or
Mmmbappé, duba
Du bap, du
Yeah, yeah
Mmmbappé, duba
Du bap, du
Oh yeah
 
Mmmbappe, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba stop, please.
 
We won't get him for 40 mill though.Besides who's going to make the chances for this front 3?

Guessing Pogba, Herrerra + new signing (if it were up to me that would be Verratti or Naingolan, or both but we do need a center back too). Wouldn't go for it for anything above 45mil up front, there on I'd say "No value in the market" :)
 
Interest in Mbappe probably comes from the realization that Griezmann doesn't want to move to England. Not so sure Mbappe wants to either, mind.

Interest probably comes from his incredible performances. It's natural, and probably every team holds an interest.
 
Interest probably comes from his incredible performances. It's natural, and probably every team holds an interest.
You really know muppet season is approaching when posters start overanalyzing stuff. Rumors in papers about Mbappe = Griezmann doesn't like Manchester weather. 'Kin hell :lol:
 
If this guy didn't score against City. Would anyone want him?

Its amazing what one game can do for a player. He was scoring for Monaco before that game and yet there was no talk about him. Now apparently "everyone" wants him.

Its a load of paper BS in my opinion. He looks like a good wee player but already talking about him being worth 80-100m because he scored against City is ridiculous. I'd rather just keep Martial and Rashford and buy Griezmann.
 
If this guy didn't score against City. Would anyone want him?

Its amazing what one game can do for a player. He was scoring for Monaco before that game and yet there was no talk about him. Now apparently "everyone" wants him.

Its a load of paper BS in my opinion. He looks like a good wee player but already talking about him being worth 80-100m because he scored against City is ridiculous. I'd rather just keep Martial and Rashford and buy Griezmann.
I would guess griezmann is our priority but perhaps he is not as keen on moving anymore and we have simply moved on to other targets which in this case is Mbappe.
 
If this guy didn't score against City. Would anyone want him?

Its amazing what one game can do for a player. He was scoring for Monaco before that game and yet there was no talk about him. Now apparently "everyone" wants him.

Its a load of paper BS in my opinion. He looks like a good wee player but already talking about him being worth 80-100m because he scored against City is ridiculous. I'd rather just keep Martial and Rashford and buy Griezmann.
19 goals by March is an outstanding figure for an 18 year old kid, I'd say yes.
 
If this guy didn't score against City. Would anyone want him?

Its amazing what one game can do for a player. He was scoring for Monaco before that game and yet there was no talk about him. Now apparently "everyone" wants him.

Its a load of paper BS in my opinion. He looks like a good wee player but already talking about him being worth 80-100m because he scored against City is ridiculous. I'd rather just keep Martial and Rashford and buy Griezmann.

He was wanted last summer for big money but it's true that when England discover a player, they go over the top.
 
There are many factors to consider with this type of deal. Ultimately, we want the best players in the world. We have fallen behind a bit in the arms race in recent years, and frankly, the Premier League has always been a bit behind in the race to acquire bonafide Balon D'or candidates.

I agree with the notion that we won't necessarily bridge the gap with the likes of Barcelona by buying a Lukaku. Given the difficulty in buying the actual Suarez/Neymar etc from these clubs, we have to speculate, either with our own, or with those who look like they could become.

£80m is a load of money. Lukaku would probably cost the same, and things could go left for Mbappé and he may end up a worse player than Lukaku even. But there is a very real chance that he will end up twice the player too, just like the forwards all our rivals have, who we cannot buy from them. Leaving an Mbappé to them runs the risk of allowing them the right succession plan to replace their existing unattainable and better-than-ours strikers.

The money is ridiculous, but price of a good is very subjective. Saying he isn't worth it is futile. The reality is that he is. His value is the price it takes to convince Monaco to change their stance from 'we won't sell' to 'okay, let's talk'. If we don't want to go there, they will happily keep him. If the price was prohibitive enough that not only us, it no other team would consider paying it - then a player simply becomes 'priceless' or 'not for sale'. €100m for Mbappé doesn't put him there though, it just puts him as 'expensive'. So desirable is the good though, that someone will likely pay if we don't.

Personally, I think he's a great talent, it wouldn't mind either way whatever we do on this one. That said, I am in support of this as a concept, in the sense that if the manager genuinely believes he is looking at the next R9, then we have to pursue it, and €100m is not too much in my view, providing we can afford it. I also don't think logic needs to come into it, in the sense that 'but we need a RB more' etc. If we are talking of an 18 year old R9, then to hell with the right back for now. That is a player who could shape European football for years. Ultimately, if Mourinho is as 'bewitched' as they say he is, then we have to do it.
 
I agree with your logic I just think we need Dembele more as we have rashford and martial
Wait which Dembele? When Martial first came i thought he would be a true number 9 but most people think he's better in a Hazard role but I'm not sure and even Martial himself says he wants to be a striker. And even with Rashford there are a lot of people saying he's better as a wide forward but i disagree with that.
 
Wait which Dembele? When Martial first came i thought he would be a true number 9 but most people think he's better in a Hazard role but I'm not sure and even Martial himself says he wants to be a striker. And even with Rashford there are a lot of people saying he's better as a wide forward but i disagree with that.

Is agree with your disagreements. I was talking about Ousmane
 
Only rugby fans will understand but he is like Beauden Barrett, he isn't flashy but he does almost everything how he is supposed to, when he is supposed to.
Interesting. But I'd argue that someone with the very obvious brilliance of Dembele is more bankable to deliver down the line. With players with whom you can't exactly pin point the reason for brilliance, it's harder to have as much faith.

Having said that for all I know maybe Mbappe becomes one of the best goalscorer in the game and dembele ends up never having that in this repertoire.
 
There are many factors to consider with this type of deal. Ultimately, we want the best players in the world. We have fallen behind a bit in the arms race in recent years, and frankly, the Premier League has always been a bit behind in the race to acquire bonafide Balon D'or candidates.

I agree with the notion that we won't necessarily bridge the gap with the likes of Barcelona by buying a Lukaku. Given the difficulty in buying the actual Suarez/Neymar etc from these clubs, we have to speculate, either with our own, or with those who look like they could become.

£80m is a load of money. Lukaku would probably cost the same, and things could go left for Mbappé and he may end up a worse player than Lukaku even. But there is a very real chance that he will end up twice the player too, just like the forwards all our rivals have, who we cannot buy from them. Leaving an Mbappé to them runs the risk of allowing them the right succession plan to replace their existing unattainable and better-than-ours strikers.

The money is ridiculous, but price of a good is very subjective. Saying he isn't worth it is futile. The reality is that he is. His value is the price it takes to convince Monaco to change their stance from 'we won't sell' to 'okay, let's talk'. If we don't want to go there, they will happily keep him. If the price was prohibitive enough that not only us, it no other team would consider paying it - then a player simply becomes 'priceless' or 'not for sale'. €100m for Mbappé doesn't put him there though, it just puts him as 'expensive'. So desirable is the good though, that someone will likely pay if we don't.

Personally, I think he's a great talent, it wouldn't mind either way whatever we do on this one. That said, I am in support of this as a concept, in the sense that if the manager genuinely believes he is looking at the next R9, then we have to pursue it, and €100m is not too much in my view, providing we can afford it. I also don't think logic needs to come into it, in the sense that 'but we need a RB more' etc. If we are talking of an 18 year old R9, then to hell with the right back for now. That is a player who could shape European football for years. Ultimately, if Mourinho is as 'bewitched' as they say he is, then we have to do it.
No we haven't. We've fallen behind in team building. The problem we have is persistent in your post. We have a tendency to have an obsession with being BIG and that can get in the way of actually being good.
 
No we haven't. We've fallen behind in team building. The problem we have is persistent in your post. We have a tendency to have an obsession with being BIG and that can get in the way of actually being good.

There's no either or to it. Having a team the works and functions cohesively is a logical desire, as is having the most capable players.

We will always struggle to build a cohesive unit when we change managers and coaches every year, it we have also been affected at times by having below par players. Barcelona have a philosophy, and they also have brilliant footballers to execute it. Their philosophy without their talent gives you Arsenal.
 
Mbappe would only hinder the progress of Martial and Rashford. Adding the 110m on top of it, we are getting rinsed here. I think we should buy Griezmann and spend the money on midfield and defense.
 
Interesting. But I'd argue that someone with the very obvious brilliance of Dembele is more bankable to deliver down the line. With players with whom you can't exactly pin point the reason for brilliance, it's harder to have as much faith.

Having said that for all I know maybe Mbappe becomes one of the best goalscorer in the game and dembele ends up never having that in this repertoire.

But you can pinpoint the reason for his brilliance, he is smarter than his peers, he understand the game better and he happens to have the physical and technical advantage on most players.
 
Why is Dembele being brought into this? He's not even an option at the moment.

If he becomes available in the coming years, he could still be signed if he wanted to come.
 
Why is Dembele being brought into this? He's not even an option at the moment.

If he becomes available in the coming years, he could still be signed if he wanted to come.

Dembele and Mbappe are good French youngsters who have great potential to be superstars. Mbappe has taken Europe by storm this season with impressive and consistent performances. In my opinion, Dembele has a higher ceiling and we don't even have a glimpse of his untapped potential. And since he hasn't broken out, it maybe a blessing to buy him now when he won't be that expensive.
 
Dembele and Mbappe are good French youngsters who have great potential to be superstars. Mbappe has taken Europe by storm this season with impressive and consistent performances. In my opinion, Dembele has a higher ceiling and we don't even have a glimpse of his untapped potential. And since he hasn't broken out, it maybe a blessing to buy him now when he won't be that expensive.

If you are referring to Ousmane he broke out last season.
 
Dembele is already highly rated and extremely exciting. It's a mystery and credit to Dortmund that they got him last summer. There isn't much discussion around him as the chances of him moving now is almost zero.
 
There's no way I'd spend 100 mil. on Mbappe, good though he is. I wouldn't spend so much on 18 years old.
Just look at Dortmund. They spent bugger all on Ousmane & Pulisic. Those guys will terrorize the CL for years to come. They're going to be unstoppable.
 
There's no way I'd spend 100 mil. on Mbappe, good though he is. I wouldn't spend so much on 18 years old.
Just look at Dortmund. They spent bugger all on Ousmane & Pulisic. Those guys will terrorize the CL for years to come. They're going to be unstoppable.

Just for context between Mbappé and Dembélé. Mbappé is an academy product of the french equivalent of Arsenal while Dembélé is an academy product of the french equivalent of Southampton. Financially both clubs are on a different planet.
 
Just one phone call to Martial on how he's year has been is more enough to deter him from considering us. Add another phone call from Zidane and it a deal
 
Just one phone call to Martial on how he's year has been is more enough to deter him from considering us. Add another phone call from Zidane and it a deal

Yep Martial will say the manager gave him more than enough chances and just wanted him to work hard in training and he let himself down.
 
Dembele and Mbappe are good French youngsters who have great potential to be superstars. Mbappe has taken Europe by storm this season with impressive and consistent performances. In my opinion, Dembele has a higher ceiling and we don't even have a glimpse of his untapped potential. And since he hasn't broken out, it maybe a blessing to buy him now when he won't be that expensive.

Yeah but Dembele is not available to buy this summer. He's not said anything about moving, Dortmund don't need to sell yet. It's a non starter.
 
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