You guys need to stop being afraid of the Real Madrid boogeyman.
Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy
- Thread starter Zoo
- Start date
- Status
You guys need to stop being afraid of the Real Madrid boogeyman.
It's not about being afraid of Real. They've poached quite a few of our players in the past. And not just Real, the weather in Spain is a lot appealing than the rains of Manchester. All I was saying is that when a player has his mind set to play for Madrid in 'x' years, why do we need to be the ones getting that player to be a world beater and then Real for instance making the best use of their years? We are on par with Madrid and we shouldn't be a feeder club like a Dortmund (although they've been playing better football than us for the past 3 years).
Generational talent.
They poached one player the rest were forced out. The Pogba deal over the summer showed we can outmuscle them financially.
I'd Rather have dembele than MBappe.
The logic that we shouldn't buy players because they *might* want to go to Madrid one day is completely absurd. I mean, why sign anyone then? Why bother playing at all? We can't win because the big bad Madrid will steal our best players! Give over, we do it to other clubs too, it's just part and parcel of the game.
It's not like the whole Ronaldo thing didn't work out for us either. He won the lot here before he left and we got a decent fee (for the time).
It's not like the whole Ronaldo thing didn't work out for us either. He won the lot here before he left and we got a decent fee (for the time).
Completely agree with this , threat of Real Madrid poaching our best players is way overplayed on this forum. Only thing which makes us slightly vulnerable is our position on the pitch let's get back to winning ways and I don't see Real Madrid or any other club even attempting to take our best players under current management .
Martial played most of his football for Monaco on the right iirc.
I am on your side.
I agree. We need to build a team like the 99 team I think with some outstanding players mixed with our youth, but not neccessarily the worlds best individually. At the moment this is just a dream I know, but who knows what lays ahead?
Just buy Veratti
I'd rather have both
You have no idea that Mbappe has his mind set on playing for Real in x years. Pure conjecture based on a few pics of him with Ronaldo posters on his wall.
15 pages, the madrid boogeyman already out in full, people worshipping Di Marzio, people bringing said worship down, people thinking about what's gonna happen to current players, people rubbishing the story, people rubbishing the idea of signing said player...
This looks promising
This looks promising
I guess we are even
. Also agreed that we should be aiming to poach potential future stars but currently with Martial and Rashford in our squad, we cant afford to have another teenager because it wont be easy to give each and everyone minutes. A lot of posters are writing off Martial and claiming Mbappe is the real deal and has more potential than him. Everyone seems to forget how good Martial was last season.I never said we should go for Lukaku and pass on Mbappe. Lukaku isnt even a ready made star. The question here is that should we pass on the opportunity of adding Griezmann to our ranks, the guy who led France and Atletico to their most important finals? Someone who was a contender for B'dor? We need experience to stabilize our club and the impacts Zlatan and Mkhi have had on the team clearly shows the need for more of such quality players. Just my opinion but I trust Jose to do the right thing. The fact that La Liga players adapt well to the premier league (Costa, Sanchez, Ozil etc) makes me wish more that we go for Antoine.
Nobody knows but a kid with so many pictures of a player and clearly an idol of the kid, the odds are high that the kid will also (start to) support the club he plays for. Mbappe is 18 now so since he was like 12, Ronaldo was at Real Madrid.
There will be enormous pressure on this kid no matter where he goes. Real deal or not, he is bound to have some rough times ahead and knives will be out unnecessarily especially if he moves to one of the big clubs this soon. Real deal or not, hope he stays with Monaco another couple of years.
That's a bit of stretch, he played as a right sided striker not as a wide player, he wasn't wider than Falcao and you wouldn't say that Falcao was playing on the left side or right. Mbappé is able to play wide and he isn't bad there but at professional level, he has been brilliant as a striker.
Sheesh. Are you his agent?
Reading that has given me goosebumps. Probably down to the fact that In my head it was read in the voice of Gandalf the grey
15 pages, the madrid boogeyman already out in full, people worshipping Di Marzio, people bringing said worship down, people thinking about what's gonna happen to current players, people rubbishing the story, people rubbishing the idea of signing said player...
This looks promising
And so it starts!
@ayushreddevil9 I don't think we should pass on Griezmann or the sake of a Mbappe either, but I'm not sure we even have that option. Without UCL I'm struggling to see why he'd come here, and I certainly don't want us to put all our eggs in that one basket.
I think we need a Griezmann and we need a new striker too, although we can easily defer the latter for a year if Ibra sticks around. What other ready-made strikers are there available this summer if you discount Lukaku? There's hardly anything to get excited about, and we may as well just defer the decision and stick with Ibra for another season as the main man - as opposed to getting some middling talent.
That is before you consider that players like Mbappe don't come around too often and don't get left on the shelf for very long. And this time next year we'll definitely need to replace Ibra and everyone will know it and be asking £100million for every lad with 10+ goals that season. That's why I think it's worth a punt this year given the circumstances. I don't necessarily think it's one or the other (Griezmann or Mbappe) either, given the astronomical amount of wages we can offload this year.
I don't agree that having Martial, Rashford & Mbappe is overkill. We'll have plenty of games and they can all fill the front 3 positions. If they are good enough, they'll make it and won't get in each others way. Martial has lacked competition, if anything, this year, because we don't have an out-and-out left sided player to properly challenge for that spot. Rashford has taken up the challenge and put pressure on Martial for his position - and now it's up to Martial to respond accordingly.
I think we need a Griezmann and we need a new striker too, although we can easily defer the latter for a year if Ibra sticks around. What other ready-made strikers are there available this summer if you discount Lukaku? There's hardly anything to get excited about, and we may as well just defer the decision and stick with Ibra for another season as the main man - as opposed to getting some middling talent.
That is before you consider that players like Mbappe don't come around too often and don't get left on the shelf for very long. And this time next year we'll definitely need to replace Ibra and everyone will know it and be asking £100million for every lad with 10+ goals that season. That's why I think it's worth a punt this year given the circumstances. I don't necessarily think it's one or the other (Griezmann or Mbappe) either, given the astronomical amount of wages we can offload this year.
I don't agree that having Martial, Rashford & Mbappe is overkill. We'll have plenty of games and they can all fill the front 3 positions. If they are good enough, they'll make it and won't get in each others way. Martial has lacked competition, if anything, this year, because we don't have an out-and-out left sided player to properly challenge for that spot. Rashford has taken up the challenge and put pressure on Martial for his position - and now it's up to Martial to respond accordingly.
Last edited:
No, he didn't. He switched between left and center. He only started a couple of games on the right and I remember one game as a substitute, he was pretty bad.
Highlights the difference between those two a bit (keep in mind that Dembele started). Dembele is more an insane dribbler with both feet, making him almost indefendable, Mbappe attacks space with pace and energy whether he has the ball or hasnt. (Wish Martial learned this from him). Think Dembele is a slightly better dribbler/passer/creator and Mbappe with supremem movement and finishing but still a far above average dribble and vision too. Add players like Martial, Coman, Lemar, Cyprien, Rabiot, Tolisso, Fekir and it's unfair really, not to mention slightly older Griezmann, Pogba, Kante (midfield en forwards).
A lot of people mentioning Martial in this thread - do you really think he'll still be here next season? Jose hardly plays him unless he has to
I mean, griezmann plays in spain so he's got a release clause. I don't see the potential there. Plus no madrid boogeyman, and if barcelona shows up it means woody's bagging himself a neymar(and paying him £800k a week...), and again, release clause, no great potential for a saga...
So yeah, i really hope you guys go balls out for mbappe. And that we do as well
I mean, griezmann plays in spain so he's got a release clause. I don't see the potential there. Plus no madrid boogeyman, and if barcelona shows up it means woody's bagging himself a neymar(and paying him £800k a week...), and again, release clause, no great potential for a saga...
So yeah, i really hope you guys go balls out for mbappe. And that we do as well
I hear there is transfer business going on between the clubs. I think United are considering buying the Bernabeu as a spillover for our fan base since we can't possibly contain them. The only snag in the negotiations is Perez wants to remain in the capacity of the head janitor.
Hardly played? He got his place back the moment he started working hard. That's all Jose wanted. He was injured recently and was back in the squad against Boro.
I thought it was fairly obvious now that he currently gets in the team providing he is not injured. He's obviously doing something right in training which he wasn't doing previously.
Dembele's dribbling is insane. It looks like the only way to stop him is to foul him. Amazing feet, though it could also be because Lux defenders aren't that good. But he has been doing pretty much the same for BVB as well somewhat. The analysis here for both are pretty accurate I feel and Mbappe's output is what is separating him from the rest. But purely from a spectator perspective, Dembele looks an absolute joy personally.
Our defenders couldnt handle him in pre-season as well, his two footedness just makes him unstoppable. I think the most two footed players I have ever seen, and not trained like Ronaldo I think, but even more than the likes of Cazorla, Neymar, Sneijder, our own Andreas Pereira, it looks as if he doesnt have a favourite foot. He can go in or outside at any given time and you can never know as defender. If he masters this, it will be absolutely a phenomenon.
Dembele about his preferred foot. He dribbles better with left but I think has a better kick with right.
He handles pressure pretty well, Saturday after the game he was asked about Zidane and his first goal for France. Mbappé answered that Zidane scored on his first shot while he didn't which shows that he isn't that good. That's the other part of Mbappé, he isn't reserved but he is level headed and well apparently well surrounded.
Obviously he is going to have difficult times, he already had one at the beginning of the season with his concussion.
Head janitor? Nah. Perez saw the chance and is about to oust the glazers. He'll then be the sole owner of Real Madrid United CF of Manchester, as was his masterplan all along. Woody will be given a job as a garden gnome. Oh, and he plans to fly a plane over both the bernabeu and old trafford saying "MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA" as our combined fandoms go into apopleptic seizuresI hear there is transfer business going on between the clubs. I think United are considering buying the Bernabeu as a spillover for our fan base since we can't possibly contain them. The only snag in the negotiations is Perez wants to remain in the capacity of the head janitor.
Last edited:
That sounds good. Although the same response can be deciphered as being gullible and childlike (in a good way). But I take it he has the right people guiding him which is so very important and good for the lad.
I've not seen much if this guy. He's clearly talented but what is his work-rate like - will he track back and offer enough defensively?
How about a wet Monday night at Stoke, how will he fair?
Good point. It's absolutely crazy to start talking about spending big on an unproven 18yr old from Monaco. Haven't we learnt anything from Martial?
I see Sergio Ramos is tapping up the player for Real.
This happens every year and they get away with it every year.
This happens every year and they get away with it every year.
So do we
Martial is worth every penny of the 40m or so....yes perhaps not 60m but he has time on his side?
What do you mean learnt anything from Martial? Martial's season has been largely overplayed, so much so that people describe him as if he's Djemba x2 reincarnated. Martial's last season established him as one of the best young players in the world, and a slightly below-par season doesn't change that.
- Status