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Saw a tweet that said the reason he took so much time praising us in the interview is because he knew Licha was waiting for him
Who’s faster? I’ve seen him arguably lose a foot race to Daniel James, but that’s about it with or without the ball. He was faster than a prime Bale, and he doesn’t seem to have lost a single step. He does conserve his runs more and might not be as fast on the first five yards as some, but for top speed I don’t see him losing. He even alluded to being faster than Haaland, and he’s rapid once he gets going.
Be interesting to see him in a proper race with Hojlund, he's extremely fast, which you wouldn't think. He has a 100 metre time of 11 seconds.
Thanks for that, just started a GoT rewatch….now I get to think of Kyle Walker torturing Theon
Højlund is very fast - argued that he’s the fastest at United, which I believe - him or Dalot. Højlund needs to be smarter with his runs though.
Licha with the crazy stare was definitely one of my favourite moments yesterday.
. At that moment I definitely felt we could win it, they were rattled.I think in a 20-30m race which is really the max you see in football many of the younger guys would now beat him in a sprint. Gordon, Martinelli, Diablo etc. Issue is if they are dribbling obviously then they are slightly slower than without the ball.
He’s definitely going to be faster than Haaland in 100m because he’s got good top speed and is much faster off the mark. Even now if think he would be. Reckon peak Walcott is probably the fastest all round player we’ve ever seen in the PL but Walker is No2. We’ve seen loads of hyped players like Obertan, Markovic, Traore but reckon Walker was faster at his peak.
What was that even all about? Very bizarre.
There are players that can get away from Walker on the first five yards, vut I’ve seen none that sre able to maintain the distance over 20-30 yards. Vinicius is a very good example. Age doesn’t matter. Once Walker gets going he’s ridiculously fast. A young Giggs, Overmars or Henry could cause him issues. Giggs had bith the acceleration and long strides for top speed. Walcott is another one in a straight race, but he was a little lightweight snd slowed down considrably with the ball.
Gordon and Martinelli are not in Walker’s class for speed. Never seen that. Walker consistently goes to to toe with the fastest players with and without the ball because of the high line City plays, and I can’t see I’ve seen him lose. He hasn’t slowed down - fastest in the league after the first five yards.
He was just before my time so I’ve only seen clips of him but was Kanchelskis not quicker than Walcott?.
He definitely seemed quicker with the ball at least, don’t remember him so much off it.
How the feck did Walker escape a yellow card there?Licha with the crazy stare was definitely one of my favourite moments yesterday.
It was all about the arrogance and entitlement that City and Liverpool players have had in the last few years, something that our team has missed for some time
And Martinez standing up to it & not being bullied for once
Can’t wait to see the back of him. I thought he was out last summer. Been saying for ages that he is City’s single most important player. Well, arguably Rodri, but Walker for me.
I imagine the ref was being lenient because the man had just narrowly avoided death.
I feel like you’re mixing up seasons. Put it this way, we know factually peak human speed is mid twenties (I think it’s 26 from memory), Walker just turned 33. So either the PL just isn’t attracting athletes anymore, seems unlikely, or Walker is still fast but not as fast as he was.
He was fast for sure. Walcott I think we know his 100m time which is why he’s unique, normally the small rapid player are slower over 100m versus the long limbed units like Haaland/Hojlund etc. I think Lennon maybe was similar. Also forgot that Danish guy who played Charlton.
Watching our second goal again, Walker‘s movement/positioning is really poor. Stones isn’t faultless but Walker can see all of the players ahead of him and should see it’s effectively 4 v 3 and sprint back.
Mainoo is only a couple of yards ahead of him but Walker just keeps pace and only puts on a sprint as ball comes across and it’s too late.
The top result from Quora (I know, not really a reliable source) said this:
Which would mean that my top speed now is the fastest I’ll ever be. It also implies that Kyle Walker’s top speed would have been before he joined City. However, he’s an outlier; he naturally seems to be a very fast person. If he weren’t a footballer, he could have become an Olympic sprinter.Quora said:
Running with the ball, 100%, Andrei was a fecking whippet! In a straight race, not sure… might be though.
(The early 90s team was seriously fast. Sharpe, Giggs, Kanchelskis, Ince)
It was about timewasting, which is exactly what Licha was doing, he's supposed to go off at the nearest point of the pitch not 40 yards further away
Just bog standard time wasting. Our players were silly though, Martinez would have 100% been able to rile Walker up enough to do something silly, shouldn’t have separated them.
And on the flip side Licha could just have easily done something stupid in retaliation
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And what is the downward spiral for losing pace? Many of the fastest 100m sprinters are well past 30. your muscle fibers lose some when you hit your mid twenties. Technique, training and muscle can make up for and even improve that level. If Walker was 5% faster than the second fastest, he may still be faster if ever so slightly less. According to his own interviews he hasn’t slowed down - I’m sure they have metrics.
Generally speaking speed will peak in your mid-20s but, as you say, training, injuries, genetics all play a role. Many clubs nowadays are doing smarter training which should minimise speed loss as their players age in comparison to previous generations. A few of the greatest 100m sprinters even hit their PBs in their 30s - Carl Lewis at 30, Linford Christie at 33, Shelley-Ann Fraser-Pryce at 34, Merlene Ottey at 36, Kim Collins at 40!
But then we found out just how many of those sprinters were on PED's.
Hence why my point is he’s no longer the fastest… he’s still quick for sure, in the same way Usain Bolt at 33 could probably still run very fast but would get whooped by his younger self.
I don’t think that’s due to pace, it’s the system we’ve used ineffectively and his all time low confidence levels.
I recognise he hasn’t had a good season but to say he’s lost his pace is just wrong.
Peak Giggs had explosive acceleration and retained it over distance but in a straight race over distance Kanchelskis would have been faster, probably peak Sharp as well. What Giggs had that those 2 didn't and what would cause issues for Walker is exceptional ball control at pace, he was much more than a kick and rush dribbler, could run at top speed with the ball very tight giving defenders no option but to back away, if they committed he just shifted the ball and was gone.
Rash doesn't have that skill with the ball, he is very much beat you with his physicality first, Giggs was still putting defenders on their backside at 38, worst thing to do with Walker is to turn it into a pure sprint test.
It’s clear as day, look at him pre shoulder injury versus now just physically. His build is even different. He’s lost that insane pace he had, just go watch some of the videos of him pre surgery, he’s slighter, more agile and getting up to speed is lightening quick.
He was about the same acceleration as Dan James at one point (there’s that vid of them both breaking next to each other and it’s insane how quick they are). Rashford might still have a similar top line speed but the acceleration isn’t where it was.
Quick google search shows he had shoulder op at end of 20/21 season but yet was still the fastest player in the squad in 21/22 and second fastest in 22/23. He even clocked the 5th fastest speed overall in the UCL this season.
Again, he hasn’t lost his pace.
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It's a good team goal, but also really poor defending. The lack of urgency to get back once Rashford shift the ball to Garnacho is quite strange - not only from Walker, but also a couple of the midfielders.
Yeah, when Rashford hits the pass, Foden is a couple of yards goal side of Bruno. When Bruno gets the pass, Foden is several yards behind.
I bet Pep watches this back and goes ballistic… I’d love to see it
Yeah, when Rashford hits the pass, Foden is a couple of yards goal side of Bruno. When Bruno gets the pass, Foden is several yards behind.
I bet Pep watches this back and goes ballistic… I’d love to see it
Ironically it's the kind of goal we've been conceding all season - midfield getting easily bypassed leaving an opposing player completely alone around the edge of the box.
stats like the 5th highest speed are great but his acceleration when starting to sprint look a bit laboured? He kinda flaps his arms and shoulders a bit which feels like it costs him a second.
I was thinking that at the time. And how we didn’t look as likely to concede that type of goal as we usually do… Amrabat had a very key role/good game
This dickhead has a podcast now. Going to be a goldmine. The lad is dumb as a bag of rocks and devoid of a sense of humour. Should be fun.