The Corinthian
I will not take Mad Winger's name in vain
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Full credit to you. Apologies are very rare on the Caf it seems. And I apologize for disparaging the great state of MarylandSorry about calling you a redneck, I was just being too reactive (and clearly uninformed).
Dont think its a stretch at all. I think its pretty hard to interpret in any other way. Cant be 100% certain obviously, maybe he's just braindead stupid and didn't expect the reaction he got, but it was a pretty predictable reaction.
Exactly. This ruling says that at the next "Unite the Right" rally, I can go down there with an AR-15 and maybe a banner that reads "Proud Boys Suck Balls". Then I can just stand around aiming my AR-15 at Proud Boys until one of them confronts me in an aggressive manner. At that point, I can let the bullets fly.I'm not a lawyer. If the law allows for that to happen, it's just absurd. You go into a place with a gun to stir shit up, when someone responds then you're just defending yourself? OK then...
Exactly. This ruling says that at the next "Unite the Right" rally, I can go down there with an AR-15 and maybe a banner that reads "Proud Boys Suck Balls". Then I can just stand around aiming my AR-15 at Proud Boys until one of them confronts me in an aggressive manner. At that point, I can let the bullets fly.
This ruling is outrageous.
Dude has such a punchable face, it‘s insane!
A mixture of dumb luck and restraint. He was acting pretty suspiciously beyond wandering around with a rifle.If the reaction was predictable how come the dozens and dozens of other open carry gimps there that night didn’t end up in the exact same situation?
Kinda hoping something like that happens tbh. A mob of mostly minorities exercising their right to protest and to bear arms near the Mccloskey's. Would love to see their reactions. Something tells me they won't be looking so confident.Exactly. This ruling says that at the next "Unite the Right" rally, I can go down there with an AR-15 and maybe a banner that reads "Proud Boys Suck Balls". Then I can just stand around aiming my AR-15 at Proud Boys until one of them confronts me in an aggressive manner. At that point, I can let the bullets fly.
This ruling is outrageous.
Trouble is, most people have a difficult time leaving out their cultural and political views when analyzing a situation like this. Instead of looking just at the legal issues, most privilege their preferred moral outcome over the facts.
Even if he were charged for illegally owning a fire arm, in WI its a class A misdemeanor. Even if that were put to the jury and the convicted him it would be basically a 300 dollar fine . Its not as huge as most would think.Admittedly don't know a great deal about this case. Hard to find a view online which isn't extremely polarised one way or the other. Could anyone explain why the charge of illegally owning a firearm was dropped?
A mixture of dumb luck and restraint. He was acting pretty suspiciously beyond wandering around with a rifle.
Surely it’s much more likely that this is the result of a chain of unpredictable events?
America is fecked. There’s been hordes of morons open carrying big guns at flashpoints over the last few years. Thankfully this is a relatively rare event but it seems unlikely that what happened happened because he had uniquely ill intent.
Much more likely a perfect storm of shitty coincidences that caused a bad outcome. Stumbling across mentally ill, aggressive dude at the wrong moment, passerbys who did the opposite of what most people would do, running towards gunfire etc etc
He’s definitely guilty of being a trouble-making twat. He also never should have been let near that gun. What I’m struggling with is the idea he went out that night intent on shooting someone. That seems very unlikely to me.
shit look what happened last time he wanted to give medical assistance to peopleApparently wants to be a nurse now.
Intending to, probably not. Willing to is something one could argue, though.
Also due to Wisconsin law hes technically not in violation of 948.60 because the statute was written by a moronEven if he were charged for illegally owning a fire arm, in WI its a class A misdemeanor. Even if that were put to the jury and the convicted him it would be basically a 300 dollar fine . Its not as huge as most would think.
edit: Wisconsin statute 948.60 if you want to look it up.
Zero prison time. its completely insignificant (in Wisconsin)
shit look what happened last time he wanted to give medical assistance to people
I'm not convinced he thought he'd actually do it or was even sure he wanted to but I am very confident he went out that night thinking about shooting protestors and that he'd fantasised about shooting protesters every night of his life for some time beforehand.Intending to, probably not. Willing to is something one could argue, though.
Even if he were charged for illegally owning a fire arm, in WI its a class A misdemeanor. Even if that were put to the jury and the convicted him it would be basically a 300 dollar fine . Its not as huge as most would think.
edit: Wisconsin statute 948.60 if you want to look it up.
Zero prison time. its completely insignificant (in Wisconsin)
I'm not convinced he thought he'd actually do it or was even sure he wanted to but I am very confident he went out that night thinking about shooting protestors and that he'd fantasised about shooting protesters every night of his life for some time beforehand.
Definitely. They very openly and proudly daydream about it.Fair enough. My perspective as being a fringe member of that sort of community is that "just give me a reason" is a personal mantra for some.
fecker is set for life.wow. I called that one wrong. Just fecking stunned. Wow. This trial was a shit show and a joke from the beginning all the way through the verdict. Our justice system is a laughingstock.
Conservative cretins like DeSantis are now using Rittenhouse for fundraising. Just, staggering. Rittenhouse should change his name and go live an unassuming life somewhere and thank God every day that he is not in prison. Somehow I know that won't happen, and this little shitweasel cumstain will be appearing on all the right wing talk shows and will be gaining fame and notoriety.
It's important to remember that he will have a target on his back for the rest of his life, and he will be looking over his shoulder every minute he's outside his house, and some day someone is going to punch his ticket.
Thread for people who think there was some kind of conspiracy to acquit him
Ain't gonna happen.They are going to pay more than that for the police force and for the rebuilding efforts after Kenosha gets burned to the ground this weekend.
What are you imagining here?People seem to be forgetting (or ignoring) that he wasn’t the only one there with a gun. He wasn’t the only right-wing counter protestor there either dressed in CoD gear. This narrative that he was some lone-wolf terrorist with the intent to kill and out to start shit doesn’t really hold water based on the evidence we have. For whatever reason he was alone and singled out, chased, and assaulted by the mob and defended his life from imminent serious injury or death by the 3 he shot.
He’s an idiot for going into the riots with a rifle and should know that there’sa possibility he might have to use it, which he did and ended up killing 2 people. He’ll pay the price in other ways other than prison for the rest of his pathetic life.
This narrative that he was some lone-wolf terrorist with the intent to kill and out to start shit doesn’t really hold water based on the evidence we have.
For whatever reason he was alone and singled out, chased, and assaulted by the mob and defended his life from imminent serious injury or death by the 3 he shot.
He’s an idiot for going into the riots with a rifle and should know that there’sa possibility he might have to use it, which he did and ended up killing 2 people. He’ll pay the price in other ways other than prison for the rest of his pathetic life.
Book deal alone will set him up for life.I haven't seen that narrative anywhere, at least not on the caf. I myself referred to him as a MAGA terrorist but that doesn't mean he went out there intending to kill people.
The reason being he is a 17 year old kid with no real understanding of what he was doing or how to handle engagement.
So you get the reason why this happened. And yes, hopefully his life turns to shit but it being America there will always be someone who will buy him a meal or give him a job.