Dude. I'm a 6'5", 39 year old British Asian male. I have had to make a fair number of decisions on the spot while fearing for my life.
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sorry to hear that
Did Rittenhouse's behavior pose a direct and unreasonable threat?
Let's just call it a lack of privilege
I drew a gun on someone trying to carjack me one time. Does that count?
Did you shoot him 4 tines?
And if you did was he more of a spoon or spork afterwards?
go unmolested by Joseph Rosenbaum 
Bastard. Not you, my autocorrect.
Was he? Does a person armed with a rifle have anything to fear from an unarmed person?
Most reasonable people and reasonable jurisdictions would consider the person with the gun to be the aggressor. Someone trying to disarm you does not really seem to require lethal force. The only group that can legitimately claim this reliably is law enforcement.
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Nah, I probably earned it.
I did not. As you said, a second or two was a very long time for both of us to think about the situation, and he decided to retreat.
I don't wanna make light of the case but they way this lawyer talks really grinds me ears. I also feel like he's missing his blood pressure medication.
Good man. You didn't kill someone in "self defence".I did not. As you said, a second or two was a very long time for both of us to think about the situation, and he decided to retreat.
I do actually mean that, sarcasm aside. If you're a good guy with a gun, you've got a massive responsibility
Does this trial have OJ notoriety in terms of following? I remember stories about classrooms watching the OJ verdict.
You know what would actually be a really brilliant idea? BAN FECKING GUNS. Without a gun that waddly little cnut would maybe take a swing, break his wrist, piss himself and run back to his mom.
But they need to keep their guns in case they have to fight a government with their Army, Air Force and Navy
I don't think there is political will for that at the moment but banning armed militia like the kind RIttenhouse was roaming with is certainly a possibility.
"We need to step back from this militia nonsense. These private paramilitaries are illegal and should be treated as such by the authorities. Perhaps, in the past, it was thought that clamping down on these “Red Dawn”cosplayers wasn’t worth the political headache. But while we do nothing, they continue to embed themselves in political protests, and one day soon, we’ll find that it’s just too perilous to exercise our First Amendment rights in the public square."
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...rivate-paramilitaries-are-illegal-ncna1239397
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Also, it looks like Rittenhouse lied yet again on the stand:
"When asked why a seventeen-year-old owned body armor, Rittenhouse said that it had been “issued” to him by the local police department where he had once participated in a cadet-mentorship program. The Chicago Tribune fact-checked this claim and reported it as untrue. On the stand, Rittenhouse admitted that on the night of the shootings he also overstated his medical credentials—he had lied about being an E.M.T."
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-complex-task-facing-the-kyle-rittenhouse-jury
Got to love how much this kid lies to make himself look better.
I think even with extensive training it would be hard for anyone in that situation if you’re fearing for your life.
It's still 4 separate decisions
Yes in a panicked situation for your life. You never made a poor choice in a moment? In just a normal average everyday situation? Add in Adrenalin and that fear.
Never going to happen. If Sandy Hook did not motivate change nothing ever will.
In England, we don't have guns. Usually we do it with fists. I've thrown panicked punches, but if I land one, maybe two, if he's down, I'm running.
If I can stop punching, he can stop shooting.
I don’t agree that simply having a gun makes you the aggressor. What if the guy did manage to take his gun? Rittenhouse is a naive little boy but he was under threat by a convicted paedo that was a bit of a cannonball.
I would argue that having the gun enables a coward like Rittenhouse (who only punches girls) to "punch". Because he's a coward he is likely lacking any self control at that point.
It was a bad decision to wear his paedo uniform that day.
I get it, he needed more than his fists, but he didn't stop at two
What is a gun for?
Binger looks like his soul is leaving his body.
Wonder what he'll do in the response- seems a bit like a cornered animal.
Wonder what he'll do in the response- seems a bit like a cornered animal.
Perception and reaction time play in to this. Especially with other factors going on with everything else in the background etc.
Yeah I live in Scotland we don’t use or need guns. I think the fact anyone even ever needs to pull a gun is a pussy act In itself. However I don’t think these situations compare at all. .71 secs to fire 4 shots. You’d struggle to pick and throw 4 shots in that time with your fists.
I get that, but if the guy had enough time to turn his back, Rittenhouse had time to stop firing
As a goalie, I've made 3/4 reaction saves in less time.
Not necessarily, no. Turning your back to someone shooting you is either going to be an automatic reaction or a natural physical response to being shot, there isn’t a perception in play that he has to make to realize “oh I’m being shot, I have to turn around here and it’ll stop”.
You probably haven‘t but ok.
I bloody well have. I played hockey, small ball, big hits.
To be honest at this point I think you’re just trolling. So I’m just going to end it here.
But if he had time to assess the situation, even subconsciously, so did Rittenhouse
Look back through my comments in this thread, you'll realise I'm not trolling.
I don't like arguments that have no backing, so if you're not willing to have a conversation, you're right, it's probably best you don't talk to me
Not really, no. Once he’s made that decision to fire, he could fire off four shots easily without perceiving what just happened.
You’re comparing the body’s natural reaction to recoil or turn from a stimulus, to someone’s conscious decision to perceive what’s happening, react, and make a conscious decision to stop.