Kobbie Mainoo (out)

[DDGMI]

Money in football is so shit hese days compared to American sports. People here getting outraged that Mainoo may have requested £200k a week, which is just below $13m per year, meanwhile there's no decent NBA players you could get for even double that.

I know it's a roster of 15-17 v a squad of 23-25 players, on the other hand way more people are going to watch football than NBA globally, matchday revenue should be much higher with stadiums 4-5x larger than NBA arenas etc.

So you’d be fine to pay £300-£400 per match day to help fund those players currently living in poverty?

 

[Smores]

Money in football is so shit hese days compared to American sports. People here getting outraged that Mainoo may have requested £200k a week, which is just below $13m per year, meanwhile there's no decent NBA players you could get for even double that.

I know it's a roster of 15-17 v a squad of 23-25 players, on the other hand way more people are going to watch football than NBA globally, matchday revenue should be much higher with stadiums 4-5x larger than NBA arenas etc.

How much do NBA teams pay in transfer/buy out fees? It's not comparable and before you say well Mainoo didn't cost anything the transfer market still dictates the market when it comes to wages.

 

[Sarni]

So you’d be fine to pay £300-£400 per match day to help fund those players currently living in poverty?

Yes that’s exactly what I said.

 

[DDGMI]

Yes that’s exactly what I said.

how does match day revenue increase to pay even further inflated wages?

 

[Zlatan 7]

Yes that’s exactly what I said.

What did you say? Footballers should be paid more?

 

[Sarni]

What did you say? Footballers should be paid more?

Merely pointed out that there’s significant disparity between some sports which I find interesting, as it probably indicates football as a whole is not doing a good job at maximizing its revenue potential.

To be fair though I expect a player like Mainoo is probably going to get a ballpark of £10m a year from someone eventually. That’s decent value if you think he could have any role at all in a successful team.

 

[MaMa given red]

Money in football is so shit hese days compared to American sports. People here getting outraged that Mainoo may have requested £200k a week, which is just below $13m per year, meanwhile there's no decent NBA players you could get for even double that.

I know it's a roster of 15-17 v a squad of 23-25 players, on the other hand way more people are going to watch football than NBA globally, matchday revenue should be much higher with stadiums 4-5x larger than NBA arenas etc.

A terrible take!

For a start 200k a week would make him one of the highest players in the league! what has he done to justify that?

 

[Red Star One]

Money in football is so shit hese days compared to American sports. People here getting outraged that Mainoo may have requested £200k a week, which is just below $13m per year, meanwhile there's no decent NBA players you could get for even double that.

I know it's a roster of 15-17 v a squad of 23-25 players, on the other hand way more people are going to watch football than NBA globally, matchday revenue should be much higher with stadiums 4-5x larger than NBA arenas etc.

I guess it was supposed to be a hot take or a bait because comparing football with transfer fees and a completely different player ownership structure to NBA is just pointless. And I'd rather not see football games change into what is primarily a circus with a bit of a sport like NBA

 

[stepic]

Merely pointed out that there’s significant disparity between some sports which I find interesting, as it probably indicates football as a whole is not doing a good job at maximizing its revenue potential.

So… £300-£400 per match day.

 

[Dan_F]

Money in football is so shit hese days compared to American sports. People here getting outraged that Mainoo may have requested £200k a week, which is just below $13m per year, meanwhile there's no decent NBA players you could get for even double that.

I know it's a roster of 15-17 v a squad of 23-25 players, on the other hand way more people are going to watch football than NBA globally, matchday revenue should be much higher with stadiums 4-5x larger than NBA arenas etc.

Ticket prices being 4-5 times larger and the fact that there is over 80 games a season?No transfer fees to pay. No stadium costs to pay.

Roster size makes a huge difference. Look at some of the wages of your average NFL player in less important positions. This is despite revenue being higher than NBA teams with so many less games.

It looks to me like United’s total wage spend is higher than NBA teams. They are however able to highly pay two or three players and then fill the squad with players earning much less. Wages are much more evenly spread in football I would say.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

So… £300-£400 per match day.

I wanted to watch a game 3 weeks ago and the price was around 300 USD

 

[Sarni]

Ticket prices being 4-5 times larger and the fact that there is over 80 games a season?No transfer fees to pay. No stadium costs to pay.

Roster size makes a huge difference. Look at some of the wages of your average NFL player in less important positions. This is despite revenue being higher than NBA teams with so many less games.

It looks to me like United’s total wage spend is higher than NBA teams. They are however able to highly pay two or three players and then fill the squad with players earning much less. Wages are much more evenly spread in football I would say.

Good points, they are able to fill out rosters with minimum players and draftees which football clubs can’t really do and you don’t get many players willing to play for you at £20k a week…

 

[giorno]

Money in football is so shit hese days compared to American sports. People here getting outraged that Mainoo may have requested £200k a week, which is just below $13m per year, meanwhile there's no decent NBA players you could get for even double that.

I know it's a roster of 15-17 v a squad of 23-25 players, on the other hand way more people are going to watch football than NBA globally, matchday revenue should be much higher with stadiums 4-5x larger than NBA arenas etc.

Quick look shows United's first team has twice as many players under contract than the Celtics, while paying $40M more for this season. Nba teams don't have academies and quite simply have fewer operating expenses, including transfer fees. In the Nba you sign a player to a 40m/year deal and he costs you 40M/y. In football you sign a player for 100m on a five year deal, with a 20M/year contract, and he costs you 40M/y

 

[Sandikan]

Money in football is so shit hese days compared to American sports. People here getting outraged that Mainoo may have requested £200k a week, which is just below $13m per year, meanwhile there's no decent NBA players you could get for even double that.

I know it's a roster of 15-17 v a squad of 23-25 players, on the other hand way more people are going to watch football than NBA globally, matchday revenue should be much higher with stadiums 4-5x larger than NBA arenas etc.

The cost of living is generally higher in the USA though isn't it, and the average wage quite a bit higher than the UK?
Add in the big difference between the squad sizes you mention, and the fact NBA teams play about 80 games a season and there's plenty of reasoning why.

Also you also qualify with "no decent NBA players" meaning there's plenty on lower wages, just that the difference between bottom and top is even more pronounced than here.

 

[El Zoido]

Imagine thinking footballers are underpaid. Holy shit.

 

[Bobski]

NBA rosters will typically have 3 players on huge contracts taking up 70% of the wage bill and the other 10 players on readily diminishing contracts. Lakers have James and Davis on about $92 mill combined with the combined salaries of the rest barely exceeding that.

Lakers pay about $190 million, Utd $220 million.

There is not an indvidual in the history of the football who can dominate a game to the extent top basketball players can. It is just the nature of the sports.