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5.3 Season Average Rating
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Was thinking more of a situation where Bruno goes at CM next to Ugarte, and then Mainoo is the left attacking mid with probably Amad the right attacking mid. That way Bruno can use his passing range while Mainoo can be used in the tight spaces to link up and his close dribbling that we've often seen from him in that area.

Not that it'd be a regular thing. But I could see it working quite nicely, in possession at least.
Called it ^
 
His flaws are less exposed the futher up the pitch he is. Still don't fancy him in games where we will have little of the ball, he can't cover the ground because he moves like he's in treacle.
 
It is like he is almost forcing the trade between Zirkzee and Douglas Luiz. Clearly left the midfield in order to move for the 10 position. Very nice to see.
 
Wouldn't mind seeing a front 7 like this against Palace;

Amad - Ugarte - Collyer - Garnacho
----------- Mainoo - Bruno
----------------- Striker

Let's see how that works.
 
Wouldn't mind seeing a front 7 like this against Palace;

Amad - Ugarte - Collyer - Garnacho
----------- Mainoo - Bruno
----------------- Striker

Let's see how that works.
Bruno in midfield is key as nobody else has his passing range, and amorim always uses 1 playmaker
 
One thing about playing him in an advanced role is just the ball retention. He's better at it than anyone we have and there's no way you want to play possession football and not have your advanced players keep the ball and pass it around a bit. He and Amad bring this element and it's essential.
 
Great, great footballer. His football intelligence for a 19 year old is completely off the chart. The way he watches the play and times his runs are so clever.

Personally prefer him a bit deeper but Ruben Amorim is clearly trying a few different things to see what works in his system and the only two players that offer the exact combinations of close control, passing ability, work rate and cleverness are Mainoo and Diallo.

Still the shining light on a struggling team, and whatever happens he's going to be important going forward into the latter stages of the Europa League and next season.
 


I didn’t realise this was his first start in Europe. He started a major international tournament before starting a Europa League group stage game!
 
I’d like to see this experiment continue with him playing further forward. Ugarte, Collyer and Bruno could all cover the position behind.

His ability to play in tight spaces and keep the ball under pressure is very good. He also showed last night he can make the right runs at the right times.
 
Great, great footballer. His football intelligence for a 19 year old is completely off the chart. The way he watches the play and times his runs are so clever.

Personally prefer him a bit deeper but Ruben Amorim is clearly trying a few different things to see what works in his system and the only two players that offer the exact combinations of close control, passing ability, work rate and cleverness are Mainoo and Diallo.

Still the shining light on a struggling team, and whatever happens he's going to be important going forward into the latter stages of the Europa League and next season.
I think it's obviously in our best interest to get both Mainoo and Fernandes in the lineup and functioning, and this is the way to do it. I like Kobbie deeper but am no longer keen on seeing Bruno in an advanced position - he's much better in centre mid.
 
Amorim said he's starting to see Mainoo more effective higher up the pitch than as a CM in his system. Interesting to see how he utilises him from now on.
 
Still can’t believe he’s only 19. The strength and athleticism will develop over the next few years, what a player we’ll (hopefully) have then.
 
Doesn't have the athleticism to be one of the two. He's so slow, it's awful to watch.

Doesn't have a passing range to make up for it either.

These are sort of posts we were getting a few weeks back on a 19 year old in his second full season.

Why dont fans have patience with players anymore?
 
These are sort of posts we were getting a few weeks back on a 19 year old in his second full season.

Why dont fans have patience with players anymore?
I'm not sure they ever had, there just wasn't an online outlet to vent all that nonsense
 
I think when you put him in that position it causes all sorts of problem for the opponents naturally. He's good at tight spaces, quick thinking, and capable of releasing quick, accurate passes. Simply a nightmare to play against in that position. The best AMs are rarely a physical specimen, they're very intelligent players who catch defenders off guard with brilliant touches and passes. Let him play there and let others play deeper. Including Bruno. I think he fits that profile more than a CM who sits deep.
 
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These are sort of posts we were getting a few weeks back on a 19 year old in his second full season.

Why dont fans have patience with players anymore?
Agreed. It’s fairly common for young players to start further forward and work back into midfield with age. Just because he might get some games there, doesn’t mean he won’t develop into a central midfielder.
 
His best performance of the season by a country mile and reminded me of last year's Mainoo. Infield 10 is the positon that he fits best in this set up and the position that I hope he is deployed in going forward.
 
Clearly he is best in that position, and it was a good performance. I'd still love to see him replicate it in a Premier League game, where the intensity and physical attributes of the opposition are just better. Still think he has to improve on that aspect, even for the CAM position. But his technical skillset is much more suited to that position than CDM - seems like it's clear to Amorim.
 
Agreed. It’s fairly common for young players to start further forward and work back into midfield with age. Just because he might get some games there, doesn’t mean he won’t develop into a central midfielder.

Paul Scholes in his early days started there too. Younger CM's who like to attack are harder to coach in the defensive role. We have seen in the last 12 months where Kobbie has not been as involved in games.

I like how Amorim says it, he mentioned how Kobbie struggled defensively and that he doesn't have time in training to try out players in different positions, now we have had more training sessions, you can see he is trying players in different positions.

Yesterday was the first time we saw 2 cut back goals, which is Amorim's vision.
 
Good game yesterday. Regardless of what position he’s going to play, he needs to work hard on his conditioning. I’m a little bit worried that he hasn’t improved in that area since breaking through. Either the coaching staff hasn’t prioritised it (which would be an indictment of them) or he’s simply too physically limited (which would be worst case scenario).
 
Good game yesterday. Regardless of what position he’s going to play, he needs to work hard on his conditioning. I’m a little bit worried that he hasn’t improved in that area since breaking through. Either the coaching staff hasn’t prioritised it (which would be an indictment of them) or he’s simply too physically limited (which would be worst case scenario).
He played the full 90 mins, which is a good start. Without looking, that feels like the first time in quite a while.
 
As others have said earlier, ideally he's the third man in a three-man midfield as opposed to an out-and-out number 10, in my view anyway. Obviously nowhere near Iniesta level yet, but that's the sort of role that appears ideal. Ideally, I think he's more suited to La Liga than the Premier League.

But in Amorim's system he's clearly more suitable as one of the tens as opposed to one of a middle two. With him as one of two in the middle, you just end up getting dominated in there. Not sure, how rigid Amorim's system is, but you'd think there'd be flexibility to enable one of the 10s (preferably a Mainoo or Bruno) to drop into midfield quite often to create more of a 3-5-2 system.

His lack of dynamism is not so critical as one of the tens, though Amorim's system demands a whole stack of running/mobility so he'll still need to work on that issue in the coming months.

Might be harder for him to get into England line-up as a ten though as there's plenty of options for Tuchel in that position.
 
Still can’t believe he’s only 19. The strength and athleticism will develop over the next few years, what a player we’ll (hopefully) have then.
Whilst I believe he is a great talent and that strength will improve, I doubt he will become much faster or more athletic. He just does not seem to have it in him but still early days
 
I think when you put him in that position it causes all sorts of problem for the opponents naturally. He's good at tight spaces, quick thinking, and capable of releasing quick, accurate passes. Simply a nightmare to play against in that position. The best AMs are rarely a physical specimen, they're very intelligent players who catch defenders off guard with brilliant touches and passes. Let him play there and let others play deeper. Including Bruno. I think he fits that profile more than a CM who sits deep.
100%, he is also a goal threat too.
 
Sounds like he's basically come to the conclusion that Kobbie is a 10. Only wish he'd done this sooner.
It would probably have happened sooner if we had more CMs to pick from. Eriksen and Casemiro can only really play if we're dominating, so then you're left with Ugarte, Mainoo, Bruno and Collyer. Where Bruno has generally played further forward and Collyer is inexperienced.
 
I think when you put him in that position it causes all sorts of problem for the opponents naturally. He's good at tight spaces, quick thinking, and capable of releasing quick, accurate passes. Simply a nightmare to play against in that position. The best AMs are rarely a physical specimen, they're very intelligent players who catch defenders off guard with brilliant touches and passes. Let him play there and let others play deeper. Including Bruno. I think he fits that profile more than a CM who sits deep.

The 10 suits him on the ball because Kobbie can receive the ball back to goal, How many times did Bruno speed up play into his feet and got the return on a one two?

That is how we have to break teams down, the quick passing and movement, with Amad as a wing back, I think they can link up really well as they are both good in tight spaces.

This gives Bruno the opportunity also when teams high press to find the ball in behind, it just gives us different weapons in attack.
 
Sounds like he's basically come to the conclusion that Kobbie is a 10. Only wish he'd done this sooner.

I dont understand this... he has come out saying why he didn't earlier. Ruben came in and Kobbie was recovering, he was starting in the CM most games.

Amorim in his presser has said, he has not had enough time to find out the best position for players, which is why we see rotations, he is trying to find players positions.

In the last few weeks, we have had 1 week training sessions and you can see, Bruno is further back, Eriksen and Kobbie now starting as the 10's.

When Garnacho starts he inverts to the wing back because it suits him. I think we will see a better Manutd in the next month, we have 2 weeks of training coming soon.
 
Definitely one of those things fans have clocked before highly paid managers.
This might be one of the good examples of why fans should not just assume managers/pundits etc. know best. The caf has some awful takes but Mainoo's skillset being much more useful in the advanced role was called super early, same on how mental it was to start Case/Eriksen vs Newcastle. We need a representative in the dugout!
 
His skillset is so much more suited to that CAM role, especially if given licence to roam. As others have pointed out, him at left CAM and Bruno behind him can allow the 2 to interchange giving us more movement. He has the quick feet to play the position. Just needs to get a bit quicker. It was only against a weak European team but Amorim should be seeing if he can convert him into that role for the rest of the season. Having two options there in terms of Garnacho and Mainoo would be interesting if Garnacho stays.
 
His skillset is so much more suited to that CAM role, especially if given licence to roam. As others have pointed out, him at left CAM and Bruno behind him can allow the 2 to interchange giving us more movement. He has the quick feet to play the position. Just needs to get a bit quicker. It was only against a weak European team but Amorim should be seeing if he can convert him into that role for the rest of the season. Having two options there in terms of Garnacho and Mainoo would be interesting if Garnacho stays.

Whilst I agree the opposition wasnt the best, how many times have we struggled away from home, regardless of opponent?

It was one of the best halves I have seen us play in a long time, where you just felt, yep, a goal is coming, we attacked and created multiple chances.

This has to now be taken into our PL games, see if we can do replicate it.