As someone who'd seen them for years with the U18's and U21's, that always felt completely OTT to me and I never thought either of them had anywhere near enough ability to make it at United. So I always talked down their chances and I'm not surprised to see them both gone within a year.
Mainoo is a much different situation. He's really stood out at youth levels as an all round CM with a lot of potential. So he really does look like someone who could make it here. So it's very exciting to see him getting some competive first team games last season at a young age, and putting in some very good performances, albeit in friendlies, this summer.