I’m not sure we will have enough time to prepare a bid if Bayern are in for him. Hopefully we have started drafting it already.
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Neither can Bayern and yet they are doing the ground work now it would seem ready for when the clause becomes active whilst we what, wait for a turd (Maguire) to finally flush before making a move? That’s not what elite clubs do.
Other than in your own head, where has it been suggested that we aren't talking with KMJ and that we are waiting for Maguire to leave ?
He‘s free to talk to anyone that will pay the clause. We don’t really have a choice with that.
My point around the clause is that if we have to pay it in full it’s probably more beneficial for us to pay more on another CB but with more favourable payment terms.
Basically giving us more money to spend on the rest of the squad. I’m also sure Pavard will be cheaper in overall price than Kim. So we could always completer that deal and be better off.
The same Bayern that are missing out on Kane, Caceido and Rice?
And if we'd beaten them to his signature the same people would've been in here going "OMG why do we keep paying players £250k/week before they've even kicked a ball for us??!"
Be quite disappointed if Bayern get him. Think KMJ's profile is essential to the next step of this team.
The first is definitely correct, but I am not sure that Pavard > Kim. And this is coming from a Bayern supporter that values Pavard.
Clubs draft bids in the space of hours or less during the transfer window's last hours. If they wanted to, the club could negotiate and wrap this up in terms of payment structure by tomorrow.
Yeah I wouldn’t disagree with you at all. But our first option was always going to be Varane. We just need someone better than Lindelof. Not sure if Pavard is that either... but he fits the profile.
All the reports suggest Bayern are also looking to exercise the release clause.
In this situation I think it ultimately comes down to the player deciding for himself. If he decides he wants to join Utd then there’s nothing Napoli or Bayern can do to stop up. Unfortunately, I get the feeling he’s not as passionate as joining us as we’d like to believe. He’s possibly open to any good project including Bayern.
We can't move for him until Maguire leaves anyway.
Which might not happen. He might just dig his heels in and decide to stay.
Which might not happen. He might just dig his heels in and decide to stay.
Real Madrid can turn players away from any other offer, (unless player is wedded to the Barca cult, or been offered player-director status and ungodly money like Mbappe, and even then it's temporary ), but since this club hasn't pursued excellence rather than enriching its parasitic ownership, we have to fight it out even for players who might otherwise be 'fans' or favorably disposed to us as they consider about what's best for their career...
Maybe next summer will be the summer when United both brief they are getting their ducks in order early and then they actually have the temerity to do so.
Great plan pal. Wouldn’t be anyones fault in that case I guess. Jesus, when will we stop missing out on these potentially world class targets. The fact we have fans parroting excuses not to sign them doesn’t help.
Oh. I sads now 
The fact he’s discussing personal terms and an agreement is close, this is as good as done. Time to move on to alternatives. I bet we haven’t even got on the phone to him yet.
That’s that then…. Useless club!
Other clubs move faster than us. It's just the way it is
Or more like, move.
Sadly, the Glazers pandering over the takeover has shafted us again.
I actually think we’ll end up buying key transfers after the seasons started due to the delay in takeover. It may even be the case we have a quiet summer of transfers and end up having to focus on winter and next summer.
Imagine not signing a player because Maguire doesnt want to leave. A competitive club would kick the fecker out. He has to think about his NT place.
Gutted - was really hoping we’d get him
Maybe those average clubs who just submit average bids. We make our bids amazing, we need time to prepare and handcraft them. That’s why our bids are the best but they take time.
Bit of a daft response. It isn't done yet and won't be until July. We can't stop him talking to another club if he wants to and if he fancies Bayern more than us that is his choice, some players don't want to play in a top league and just guarantee themselves trophies without challenging themselves.
Depends if we’re actually trying to sign him or not… the ownership issues isn’t helping. Reports last week were saying he’s agreed personal terms with us and he only wants to join us, now it’s changed this week
makes me laugh.Most fans should be numb to the way we do business now. This kind of thing has happened so many times over the last 15 years. Whatever.
A tortoise moves faster then us…
Once the takeover is complete I believe we will no longer keep deadwood as long as we have done under glazers or this “protect the value” with new contracts nonsense. I can see the Qataris in particular getting players out of the club quickly if they don’t fit into plans. Even if it means paying them off and getting rid.
We’ve been conditioned to accept it. Going as far back as being gazumped for Robben.
We better run, we better move.
Or we'll be going down the timber route.
Or we'll be going down the timber route.
Best CB in europe last season, another Glazer feck up
Always felt fishy when the solid English journalists never said anything about this. In fact any talk of a CB was always about how we need to sell before we buy, which is impossible in the first two weeks of the window when Kim's clause can be activated
People here still give excuses for why we do transfer business a certain way though
Case in point right here
Case in point right here
The Kalidou Koulibaly precedent makes me think as good as Kim Min Jae might be, I won’t be sad if we miss out on him.
The reaction here is bit over the top, and during the transfer window is getting quite ridiculous. Every tweet is an opportunity seized by the Caf to be negative about the club. Reports only said that we were interested, not that we absolutely wanted him.
The reaction here is bit over the top, and during the transfer window is getting quite ridiculous. Every tweet is an opportunity seized by the Caf to be negative about the club. Reports only said that we were interested, not that we absolutely wanted him.
FFS I genuinely thought this was as good as done the other day now he’s 1/11 with the bookies to join Bayern. F*ck this.
Maguire is staying and will be an important member of the team next season. EtH press conference in pre season will mention his delight at keeping him. People need to realise we have no money, complete cnuts owning us and making a mockery of this rumoured sale and we are also notoriously shit at transfers.
I think it's just the fact a CB of his quality is costing 43m. Seems like such a wasted opportunity
What is the Kalidou Koulibaly precedent?
Yup. You basically get world class level CB for the price of a mediocre PL midfielder, but so many here seem to not understand the concept of value and then wonder how teams like Real and Bayern "reload" all of the time when they do deals like this constantly even when it's not a "need"
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