He's class but we have bigger priorities than spending big on a CB. I'd be entirely comfortable going into the season with the 4 we have with Shaw being backup LCB, Lindelof backup RCB. Just sell Maguire, use those funds on a cheaper guy and that's fine.
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Shaw would only be used as CB if Martinez is injured and perhaps every now and then to rest him. He'll still play the vast majority of the season at leftback so it's not like we'd have to replace him there. It wouldn't be any different for him in that regard than it has been this season, where we bring in Malacia or Dalot to play leftback when Shaw moves inside.
We'd basically have four top players (Varane, Martinez, Kim and Shaw) to play throughout three positions, which considering they are in positions that normally don't see that much rotation is about as much as you can ask for. After that you are looking more at decent squad level players, so the question is whether we're better off with buying another cheap left footed centreback to cover Martinez while keeping Shaw at leftback, or bringing Shaw into the centre with Malacia/Dalot playing at leftback. The former would require signing another player (who would likely barely play considering Martinez would be expected to play the majority of games), while the latter wouldn't require any more signings.
The same holds true if we keep Lindelof and don't sign Kim or anyone else. While it might be nice to have top quality back-ups, it'd be hard to keep them happy (there's already been rumours this season that Lindelof wasn't happy having to share the back-up role with Maguire) and there are other positions that need that money spent on them far more.
Hardly surprising, clubs scout thousands of players each year
So him, Rice and Kane. What a window.... Assuming FFP is no longer an issue or we've learnt how to sell players for more than half their value
Would be a very good acquisition and certainly an upgrade on what we have in defence apart from Varane and Martinez, hopefully this gets done quickly then onto other areas of the squad, with hopefully the new owners in place.
Sounds like a healthy well balanced meal indeed
Depends on how good he is. If he’s got top 2-3 CB in the world ability then it makes sense given Varanes age fitness issues.
I don't know much about him but this would only make sense if we think he's good enough to be a long term successor to Varane. Varane obviously has fitness issues that need managed and unfortunately the backups we have at RCB are not good enough to cover him when he's out.
Only have 3 CBs that will prob be here next year so could make sense. Varane is ridic fragile so having a 3rd top one and then lindelof as cover should allow shaw to stay at LB. Good use of funds considering maguire will fund most of it and then shaving off a lot of CB trash off the books as well this season.
His passing and aerial numbers seem like what Ten Hag would want for Lisandro's partner long-term.
He looks like confident version of Maguire We Should steer clear , go back and watch Maguire's highlights at Leicester or Early United career similarities are uncanny .
Assessment is based on just highlights so I may be way off the mark .
Assessment is based on just highlights so I may be way off the mark .
Would be a top, top signing.
La Liga games are free in Asia (some countries) also.
His release clause isn't exactly mega bucks though.
Hes not expensive
It's what, 45m? Good deal for his quality, but think if we still get him rather than going for Diogo Costas release clause in goal it'd be a mistake.
We need ST, GK, Casemiro depth, and press resistant #8... Any big spends that stop one of those 4 signings are mistakes imo.
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. I merely meant if we bothered to scout him in Korea, I'm sure we would have followed his progress into Europe. I can imagine the interest is real, considering his release clause.Him and Maguire have nothing in common from my eyes test, aside from the dark hair.
Didn't we restructure our scouting unit just last year? But yeah agreed, I think our interest is real, and it seems like we're more proactive now with this.
Very true but still a worrying lack of links to any number 8's this summer which we badly need
Its not our job to intentionally handicap our depth because of one player's feelings we need to do what's best for the club and that's having two quality players in each position to compete on all fronts like the very top teams. Its on the player to fight for his spot and do his job when he's called upon
If we sold Maguire and decided not to sign a CB we'd be one injury away from an injury crisis in a season we should be trying to compete for the title. See how Saliba's injury completely derailed Arsenal's title hopes and how much we miss Licha. CB might not have much rotation but every bit of depth counts and it takes one injury to undo title hopes.
Not to mention Varane's fitness isn't exactly the best and Lindelof while he's decent quality wise is nowhere near the Frenchman so it wouldn't be wise to bank on an injury prone 30yr old CB to stay fit and bank on a vastly inferior player that's just one year younger to be his understudy. A young CB to be Varane's understudy or a CB in his prime available for an affordable price like KMJ has to be signed. Money can be recouped from selling Maguire+Bailly for whatever we can get
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Would be totally like us to sign yet another expensive CB instead of addressing actual pressing needs in the team. I think we've signed at least one every summer for 6-7 years now.
ST, CM, DCM, GK and then a CB. Our priority list
I think people are really underrating this potential signing. Our last few games without Licha made us look like a relegation team - Kim is a special defender who can help us transition quickly from defending to an attacking phase.
Real lack of links to midfielders so far
Think there is probably concern of how many games Varane could play next season and Erik wants Shaw to stay at LB
We will offload MaGuire this summer. Phil the apparition Jones contract ends, Tuanzabe and Bailey will also leave.
Agreed we need elsewhere but a keeper able to play from the back and an extra CB will fix the defence.
CM and CF where it’s at though.
Just not sure how many we can offload though, it’s always suggested but in reality we really struggle.
Maybe will pull another casemiro
I've not seen this bloke play too much so I can't comment on his ability, but getting a centre back shouldn't really have too much of an effect on our spending ability if we actually trim the fat of the squad.
Out: Maguire, Laird, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Telles, AWB/Dalot, Williams, Jones
In: Kim/New Cb, New RB
Even in this scenario we would be well stocked on defenders. I guess it depends on whether we commit to offloading those players.
Out: Maguire, Laird, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Telles, AWB/Dalot, Williams, Jones
In: Kim/New Cb, New RB
Even in this scenario we would be well stocked on defenders. I guess it depends on whether we commit to offloading those players.
Yeah, that's a possibility as well. We'd get decent money for both Maguire and Lindelof and have Martinez/Shaw and Varane/Kim options for CBs + youth player. I like it.
I don't think we have CB as a priority. I just think his profile and release clause is too good to pass up on.
Fixed it for you.
He is very agile and explosive for a big guy.
He is also a front foot defender who doesn't mess around or dwell with the ball. We should sign him and our CB department is the strongest in the league.
If we can shift Maguire and get him in for around 10m net, it would be a decent bit of business. But we really need goals more than another CB, people say we have looked crap without both our starting CBs the last month or so, but that is a rare enough occurrence. Conversely, If we'd had a solid goal scorer all season then top 4 wouldn't even be in question, and at least some of those dodgy performances with our backup CBs would have ended up as wins, most likely. Hopefully we have the budget for both, but if there are FFP issues, then we might need Maguire's sale cash for a striker.
Bit worried that city may jump in and sign him. Especially if they’re planning on playing that 3 at the back formation that peps trialled.
Don't panic mate. Plenty of CBs out there.
Just think he’s to good not to get. A great opportunity at such a decent price aswell.
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