Agreed. I doubt Kompany's reputation has taken a massive knock. Also, Rob Edwards' reputation has probably increased despite Luton being relegated.
Kieran McKenna | Close to signing long term deal to stay at Ipswich
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Based off his behaviour on the pitch, he’s an awful influence. His behaviour in the media and lack of accountability backs up assumptions too. Ten Hag has commented how good Martinez and Bruno are in training when it comes to standards, the Shaw shout is a bit of a punt, but he seems well behaved and is a consistently good player when fit. He comes across as a good influence in interviews too. I didn’t include Maguire, Lindelof, Eriksen and Casemiro as I’m not sure where their future lies.
Would you consider Pogba a good influence in the dressing room?
I believe he will end up in Manchester. But that it is far too early. Let him prove himself at the top level first.
What’s the relevance?
One of the moronic comments I have seen in a while. Yeah mate, the professionalism of Keane leading by example on the pitch is same as players like Rashford. What a car crash of a post.
People say he's a bad influence based on how he is on the field that he's not but players speak positively about him and about how helpful he is and such.
Very good influence. Partying after humiliating defeat to your rivals. Going to Dublin partying again whole night and turning up late in training or calling sick before the match during the season. All good influence. Not to mention trotting on the pitch every match, not helping out your teammates and giving all for the team is again very good influence. All good.
Tell us you just started following us recently without telling us you just started following us recently
When was the last time you saw a player criticising a teammate or speak negatively about them? Never unless you are Roy Keane. If that is your evidence then it’s a very weak one.
How mature but not surprised given your last one.
Ah lighten up mate, I just dont think Rashford is the worst personality we've ever had. SAF would never have let him get to where he is now. My original point was that we need a strong leader to control the dressing room, rather than building a class of kindergarden students to accomodate McKenna. If he cant control egos then hes not the one for us. With that said, we'll need a clear-out at the end of the season as well, get rid of those who dont want to be here.
Athletic aren't rumours.
going to Chelsea would just be stupid on his part.
Brighton (or Brentford, if Frank leaves) would make sense. Still hope we swoop in though.
Brighton (or Brentford, if Frank leaves) would make sense. Still hope we swoop in though.
Since Bruce went into management irrelevancy, we've been missing a good feeder club
Mowbray was all on the Amad gravy train when he was at Sunderland. Maybe we should give him a couple at Birmingham, who we already probably have a good relationship with anyways considering our loans there over the years.
Derided as a hapless coach, a mere P Neville look a like here. Now the hottest managerial property out there. Amazing how things change.
Could you show us the article in question? The only one I can see is an article that describes Ole’s conversation with The Athletic and his vision for the club:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/2213078/2020/11/27/manchester-utd-solskjaer-plan/
edit: another article in with Ole speaks about McKenna: he supposedly took charge on the defensive side of our game, and took charge of meetings with players to get Ole’s vision across:
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/23511649.manchester-united-legend-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-kieran-mckenna/
I think throwing a young manager like Kieran into our mess could set his career back significantly. I hope he gets a job like Brighton with a squad that isn't relegation fodder. Maybe the seat will be ready for him one day.
I disagree, I feel like now with a new structure, a clear out of the worst players and embarrassing 8th placed finish to build open, we are kind of giving him the best possible chance to succeed and try and emulate what Arsenal have done with Arteta.
They brought him up without his name being mentioned. It's not like they directly asked about Pogba. Most recent example is Amad. He's said Pogba was great guy and helped him out a lot.
I think it takes more than a few months to get a new structure in place, one window doesn't do it. That's why I want to keep ETH as a placeholder. Let INEOS get something stable and ready for the young manager of the future (a Kieran prototype).
Brighton's the right move for him. Consolidate for a couple of seasons and if he does well, move to a top 6 club if Brighton isn't already one.
Brighton looks the right job for him. He’d get eaten alive at United and Chelsea this early.
Di Marzio has lost all credibility over the last few years, doesnt seem to have the contacts
Covering all the bases, then.
McKenna to Brighton. Poch to Bayern, RDZ to Chelsea or Barca. Tuchel to United. That’s how I see it panning out.
Thank god for that. Poch would be the most underwhelming appointment since Moyes.
He's very likely gone given the level of interest he's getting.
Ipswich spent £4m last summer.. their current squad isn't even close to competing especially as with a lot of promoted teams they relied on a couple of loans like Sarmiento and Williams from us.
They probably need close to 8 good new players.. but they're owned by an Arizona pension fund and a random American private equity firm backed by native American money.. unlike Forest, Bournemouth and Fulham who are owned billionaires and spent around £100m each they went up in 2022, I doubt they spend much at all. Especially since Burnley did so last season and signed poorly and went down.
I'd be surprised if they even spend close to £50m this summer truthfully. Given that, it's a no brainer for McKenna to go. Being Rob Edwards for a season isn't really an enticing prospect.
Ipswich spent £4m last summer.. their current squad isn't even close to competing especially as with a lot of promoted teams they relied on a couple of loans like Sarmiento and Williams from us.
They probably need close to 8 good new players.. but they're owned by an Arizona pension fund and a random American private equity firm backed by native American money.. unlike Forest, Bournemouth and Fulham who are owned billionaires and spent around £100m each they went up in 2022, I doubt they spend much at all. Especially since Burnley did so last season and signed poorly and went down.
I'd be surprised if they even spend close to £50m this summer truthfully. Given that, it's a no brainer for McKenna to go. Being Rob Edwards for a season isn't really an enticing prospect.
More underwhelming than Ole? I think he’s a very good manager and won’t complain if we appoint him. I hope it’s either Tuchel who’s my first choice or him. I don’t want us to appoint De zerbi or McKenna or potter at this point.
Agreed with most of your post actually but I do think Rashford has an attitude issue and McKenna won’t be able to solve it. Not experienced enough and not big enough yet.
Career kamikaze if McKenna heads to Chelsea - the most unappealing job in football.
Hope he stays at Ipswich, have no idea why you’d take a team up through two divisions and build that kind of rapport with a fanbase to just leave them in the lurch when you hit the big time. Especially to go to bloody Brighton ffs, half of their matchgoing fans don’t even support Brighton as their main team, Ipswich is a proper club.
Is it worth it for the money though?
Go there for big bucks, even if you fail, take a year out, someone will throw you a bone
Potter got offered the Ajax job recently no?
When we had announced Ole as permanent manager, I was still riding the high of that night in Paris and his record breaking unbeaten run. Whereas with Poch, nothing he has done in the last 5 years has made me excited about the prospect of hiring him.
I agree with you on Tuchel - he is my preferred option out of the available managers.
Agreed. Would love to see him have at least one more season with Ipswich in the PL.
Seems United fans and us Chelsea fans are together in hoping like hell that we don’t appoint him.
Given that, it’s a no brainier he stays and builds on his reputation by managing to give it a go with them, rather than be chewed up and spat out by that ridiculous Chelsea set up that will destroy his reputation like Potter.