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Sylar said:
Why dont people rate him? I dont get it.

Would obviously like to see United get him. For 8m its almost laughable that price so I dont believe it. At 27, hes still got around 5 years at a top level IMO.
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I think because he's a work horse, not a sexy playmaker type. He doesn't score bundles or goals or make loads of assists, but he's he water carrier. Something we do genuinely need In midfield too!. For 8m he would be bargain of the season.
 
Adam-Utd said:
I think because he's a work horse, not a sexy playmaker type. He doesn't score bundles or goals or make loads of assists, but he's he water carrier. Something we do genuinely need In midfield too!. For 8m he would be bargain of the season.
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No because he is not a good number 6 and not a good number 8 either. He can't play the DM in front of the defence, because his positional sense is shit, but he doesn't have any abilities going forward either. He is just a workhorse with a lot of energy, but especially in a midfield 2 he is imo useless and everyone will struggle to find a suitable partner for him. For 8 million I will take him too, but I don't think he would change much in our midfield to be honest. If we don't get someone like Vidal we should look for a player, who really does the basic defending and protects Mata and Herrera in front of them. Khedira with his headless chicken runs forward could kill our midfield in many games.

But Real won't sell him for 8 million anyway, why should they? It's Real, they get 20 million for the likes of Albiol, Morata etc..
 
on his performance v Brazil he'd be a big asset here.

If he's fairly decent fee it's an odd one.
 
Watch him walk right into Arsenal. This makes so much sense that its almost too easy for Woody.
 
Sandikan said:
on his performance v Brazil he'd be a big asset here.

If he's fairly decent fee it's an odd one.
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But exactly the performance against Brazil didn't show me a single minute, that he is the right signing for United. That's what I don't understand. People here saying Khedira would be a good buy, we need a more defensive-minded player and then saying "Look how good he was against Brazil."
But he didn't show any number 6-qualities against Brazil, he just did his usual runs forward and because Brazil was that shit he looked like Zidane and walked with ease through their midfield and defence.

Like praising Fellaini for his performance against us, where he played up front and bullied our team and then want to sign him as our DM. And yeah, Sami is much better than Fellaini, but he seems to want very high wages and I fear in 2 years time we will complain about another average player which is overpayed in our squad, while our midfield still look dire as feck. 8 millions would be a good price, but I don't believe for one second that the fee is true.
 
We need two centre mids (arguably three) so Khedira for 8m makes way too much sense.
 
Pyroblazer said:
But exactly the performance against Brazil didn't show me a single minute, that he is the right signing for United. That's what I don't understand. People here saying Khedira would be a good buy, we need a more defensive-minded player and then saying "Look how good he was against Brazil."
But he didn't show any number 6-qualities against Brazil, he just did his usual runs forward and because Brazil was that shit he looked like Zidane and walked with ease through their midfield and defence.

Like praising Fellaini for his performance against us, where he played up front and bullied our team and then want to sign him as our DM. And yeah, Sami is much better than Fellaini, but he seems to want very high wages and I fear in 2 years time we will complain about another average player which is overpayed in our squad, while our midfield still look dire as feck. 8 millions would be a good price, but I don't believe for one second that the fee is true.
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A guy who has been a regular at Real Madrid, for a fee of £8m at his age would be an embarrassingly good deal.

We're playing Fletcher, with Cleverley and Fellaini to fall back on. Carrick has it all to prove last year's under performances were down to Moyes not down to slipping in ability.
 
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Sandikan said:
A guy who has been a regular at Real Madrid, for a fee of £8m at his age would be an embarrassingly good deal.

We're playing Fletcher, with Cleverley and Fellaini to fall back on. Carrick has it all to prove last year's under performances were down to Moyes not down to slipping in ability.
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Carrick spent most of last season struggling with injuries. It s unfair to write him off.
 
Would be great signing, completely different class to fletcher, Cleverley and fellaini, would bring some pace,power and mobility, decent on the ball as well, would be happy to pay twice the price being mentioned. Best part is he is actually for sale as well so we might actually be able to close the deal quickly.
 
Pyroblazer said:
No because he is not a good number 6 and not a good number 8 either. He can't play the DM in front of the defence, because his positional sense is shit, but he doesn't have any abilities going forward either.
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Everyone forgets that CL tie where we basically let him run around unmarked because he offered nothing in possession. He would be ok if we were looking to protect a Xabi Alonso or Pirlo, but that isn't the direction we are going with the team.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
Yes. I've always liked him, maybe I over-rate him a little bit but I thoroughly enjoyed watching him in the World Cup. Was more of a box-to-box rather than his typical holding role.

It says a lot that Lowe picked up to start, let alone be in his WC squad, despite being out for months previously.
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That's the only role he can play. Alonso plays the holding role for Madrid, Schweinsteiger plays the holding role for Germany while Khedira does his usual thing - run around like a headless chicken and do a little of everything and a lot of nothing. Herrera and Carrick are both a level above him, for me, and there's no real place for him in the squad. We 100% couldn't play him and Herrera together and the only player I could see him partner is Carrick to be honest.

The only way he'd be going for under £10m is if Madrid think he's a crock.
 
would be a great signing, we need CM's & he is available for a cut down price (probably not £8m but still cheap)

which of course means we won't even look, because we don't need signings, our current squad is clearly so good that we can't even beat Swansea at Home, but hey who needs players? let's just field sponsors & Woodward in midfield/defence
 
Crashoutcassius said:
Are we gonna have to pay 150k a week? Anyone know about that kinda thing?
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Wasn't he close to Arsenal, but than it didn't happen because he asked for a ridiculous wage, like he would be by far their highest earner and they couldn't fit that into their salary policy. I think he'll surely on £150k or more. But I don't really care, I'd take him in a hearthbeat atm.
 
Wages or no wages this will never happen. Especially if he'd take reasonable wages, it'd just make too much sense.
 
As many have said, it's too good a signing to happen. Makes far too much sense to do something right like this.
 
Don't see him as a very logical addition, to be honest. He's not a bad player, as such, but what would we use him for? Him and Herrera would look awfully light defensively for my money. And I assume Herrera will be a given starter for most matches. As a pure back-up, yes - but where's the logic in that move for HIM? Don't see it at all and would be surprised if LVG is keen on him.
 
For that price, would be our second best CM instantly and funnily enough the cheapest one we would have bought out of the current ones we have, which is hilarious considering the current options.
 
We would be silly to not look at him for that price, even if his wages are £150k+.
 
We got Bebe for that much so would be baffling if we didn't go in for him. We need a good MF, he is a good MF, he is available... this only means one thing... Ed will somehow feck it up and we'll end up calling Giggs out of retirement.
 
To be honest I'm struggling to see this 'too much logic' behind signing Khedira that most are going on about, other than the apparently cheap fee. We've just spent 29m on Herrera who loves chasing the play almost as much as Khedira. Herrera's not going to be benched, but having those two as a midfield pairing would leave us with gaping holes down the middle. A midfield trio of Carrick/Fletcher-Khedira-Herrera doesn't make much sense to me either as there's not enough quality in the final third from any of those.
 
If he is available for anything under £20 million then whoever gets him has got an excellent deal. Would love him here, would allow so many more options.
 
Bojan11 said:
Bayern apparently are interested.
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They're interested in every single CM we're interested in or linked with, despite simultaneously having the best midfield on the planet. Those trolling German bastards.
 
2 Man Midfield said:
They're interested in every single CM we're interested in or linked with, despite simultaneously having the best midfield on the planet. Those trolling German bastards.
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To be fair it makes sense. They lost Kroos. Thiago and Martinez injured.

He'd be a good signing for them or any other club for that matter.
 
Bojan11 said:
To be fair it makes sense. They lost Kroos. Thiago and Martinez injured.

He'd be a good signing for them or any other club for that matter.
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And they still have Schweinsteiger, Lahm and Goetze. That's practically cheating as it is.
 
2 Man Midfield said:
They're interested in every single CM we're interested in or linked with, despite simultaneously having the best midfield on the planet. Those trolling German bastards.
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Actually - not if Thiago and Schweinsteiger are injured. And they are really injury prone. From the class of midfield there is only Lahm left...

A 19-year-old Höjbjerg, a 17-year-old Gaudino, Alaba or a Rode, a young guy that came without fee from Frankfurt (and just came back from a 6-month-lasting knee injury and is injury prone, too) are the replacements...

And Pep does not see Götze in central midfield. He is a 10 and no 8...

I forgot that Rafinha is injured, too - and will be out a month or more. We would need Lahm at right back...

In my eyes Khedira would be a replacement that would fit in very fast and easy - he knows the Bayern players and plays together with six of them in the German team. Everybody else would need a lot time to adapt. Even if he is not a Pep type of player...
 
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Sylar said:
Why dont people rate him? I dont get it.

Would obviously like to see United get him. For 8m its almost laughable that price so I dont believe it. At 27, hes still got around 5 years at a top level IMO.
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I don't understand why he's being rejected by people either. If he can partner someone like Schweinsteiger deep in midfield for the Mannschaft while doing his solid share of the dirty work to help Real winning the Champions League, he has to be good somewhere And besides, we are such in serious need of depth in midfield.

He would walk into our midfield now, and that's not a joke. If people are not convinced of his performance against Brazil, just take a look at how he and Schweinsteiger nullified France together while knowing each other's position. I think it was highlighted in MOTD following that particular game; it was dire of a match, but an excellent display of tactical discipline by the German midfielders.

As some people already mentioned, he's dynamic while our midfield is really anemic. Is there not a place for a dynamic midfielder in a team with an anemic midfield? Never a chance in hell. No matter what people say, there's always a place for someone like him considering the dross we have.
 
Kakeru said:
I don't understand why he's being rejected by people either. If he can partner someone like Schweinsteiger deep in midfield for the Mannschaft while doing his solid share of the dirty work to help Real winning the Champions League, he has to be good somewhere And besides, we are such in serious need of depth in midfield.

He would walk into our midfield now, and that's not a joke. If people are not convinced of his performance against Brazil, just take a look at how he and Schweinsteiger nullified France together while knowing each other's position. I think it was highlighted in MOTD following that particular game; it was dire of a match, but an excellent display of tactical discipline by the German midfielders.

As some people already mentioned, he's dynamic while our midfield is really anemic. Is there not a place for a dynamic midfielder in a team with an anemic midfield? Never a chance in hell. No matter what people say, there's always a place for someone like him considering the dross we have.
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I'm sorry, an ANEMIC midfield?!
 
Of course he would walk into the starting 11. At the moment Fletcher, who isnt a defensive genius either, is partnering Herrera. Khedira is just a much better player. As long as you play with a back 5 you dont need a DM anyway and even if you want to change the system, there would be room for him. Buying him for less than 20m would be good business, if Vidal isnt for sale. The transfer window is closing and most top players are just not for sale anymore and Khedira is a much better panic transfer than the likes of Blind or any other overpriced random guy who hasnt proven anything yet. Some of you would be willing to sink 25m into Danny fecking blind; a guy who is incredibly average. Its madness. I am not a Khedira fan at all, but buying him for 20m would be the best midfield transfer since buying Carrick in 06/07.
 
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We need to start overbidding for players now because this is what it has come to. It's getting to panic stations in the window time now and we need all the quality players we can get. Di Maria, Benieta, Khedeira, Vidal, the lot. I mean of course we won't get them all but we need at least some of them. 2 or 3 before the end of the window at the bare minimum.

People have been calling Khedeira average and overrated for years but I think he's one of the most underrated players in Europe. Is he a Manchester United player? We don't know. But right now he's still miles better than Fletcher, Cleverly , and Carrick now he's older. Carrick doesn't move on the pitch anymore.
 
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