Considering how well he is playing have any teams used a man marker against KDB yet?
United tried to, Pep moved Sterling into the middle though which stopped it.
Considering how well he is playing have any teams used a man marker against KDB yet?
United tried to, Pep moved Sterling into the middle though which stopped it.
Who was our man marker?United tried to, Pep moved Sterling into the middle though which stopped it.
That's one of the most bizarre things I've read in a long time on here. De Bruyne was so poor last season he ended the season with 6 goals and 18 assists in the Premier League, with 9 MOTM performances. He also suffered a significant injury and came back picking up where he left off, immediately performing at a very high level again. You're trying to make a point about Salah but coming up with an alternative history isn't helping that point.How not? Playing in a vastly inferior team but leading the scoring charts against all odds. Scoring cracking goals too. De Bruyne was poor last year in a team that wasn't pulling up trees but still better than the current Liverpool side.
How much is he on at City, and when are the next round of contract negotiations?
I should think his agent can look around at the contracts the top players around the world are on, and expect there or thereabouts for his client.
It's funny because the mega contracts around the football world are generally reserved for marketing behemoths (Neymar, Messi, Ronaldo, Pogba) or at least good sellers (Bale). De Bruyne could become a seller, I guess, but initially he'll have earned his wage purely on his ability and pretty much nothing on his marketability.
Extremely rare in this day and age.
That's a good article and I've posted in the past on here - probably this thread actually - that Mourinho deserves some mitigation in letting De Bruyne go. That might come as a surprise to some when you consider who I support but trying to look at this from as neutral a stance as possible, he wasn't a Mourinho signing yet Mourinho gave him more game time at Chelsea than any other manager there. A Chelsea fan disagreed and said it was all on Mourinho because he was the one who dropped him in the early part of the 2013-14 season despite him looking one of the better players in the team so I kind of get where he's coming from there but to say Mourinho should shoulder all the blame is a bit off IMO.
That's a good article and I've posted in the past on here - probably this thread actually - that Mourinho deserves some mitigation in letting De Bruyne go. That might come as a surprise to some when you consider who I support but trying to look at this from as neutral a stance as possible, he wasn't a Mourinho signing yet Mourinho gave him more game time at Chelsea than any other manager there. A Chelsea fan disagreed and said it was all on Mourinho because he was the one who dropped him in the early part of the 2013-14 season despite him looking one of the better players in the team so I kind of get where he's coming from there but to say Mourinho should shoulder all the blame is a bit off IMO.
On the rise to prominence there's a juncture where the club holding the talent must intercede and offer up a contract equivocal (or better) to what that player could get elsewhere. This is De Bruyne's breakout season in terms of being recognised as a bona fide world class talent any and everyone would want to get their hands on, and as such, City have to meet that in kind, so it's no surprise if they are looking to bump him up to stratospheric earner category.Funnily enough, rumours of a new 6 year contract have surfaced in the past couple of days.
As for marketability, yeah I see what you mean - he looks more like a paperboy than a footballer He can't half play though!
Who was our man marker?
On the rise to prominence there's a juncture where the club holding the talent must intercede and offer up a contract equivocal (or better) to what that player could get elsewhere. This is De Bruyne's breakout season in terms of being recognised as a bona fide world class talent any and everyone would want to get their hands on, and as such, City have to meet that in kind, so it's no surprise if they are looking to bump him up to stratospheric earner category.
He'll set the bar for earners at your club and set the standard for what is expected to be put in the same wage bracket - apart from your wage bill potentially going up a large amount in the next few seasons, this is all good news for your club as competition and aspiration to meet that bar amongst the others will ensure performance levels remain high.
He's very likely to become the highest paid player in the PL, which I wonder whether the knock-on effect will be stars at other clubs asking for parity with that. Hazard, for example, is due a big - or decisive - action with regards to what he does next very shortly, and if the De Bruyne contract gets wrapped up before his, he'll be looking to use that when negotiating his worth to Chelsea, I should imagine.
All of these will be wrapped up before the World Cup, too, as no club wants to deal with the inflative fallout of a great World Cup performance.
Is everyone buying that?
His quite stern expression doesnt look like he was doing a tribute.
The problem with city's system is that the moment you double mark 1 player, you just open more space for another dangerous player. You have Sane and Sterling wide on the wings, if you don't look out for them they will run riot on youre flank, if you do take special measures to cover them, you open more space for city's 2 playmakers to create the danger from the center. There would be less of an issue if city didn't have dangerous players at all positions but for the moment it clicks everywhere, but if you would double mark KDB he would be intelligent enough to use the opportunity to draw defenders away from their position creating spaces for other players.
If the only difference is the relative position of the team, then you should have a look at how KDB pretty much single handedly managed to destroy a utterly dominating Bayern Munchen with Wolfsburg.
Legendary performance that was, very memorable match.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_FC_Bayern_Munich_season
biggest loss of bayern munchen in the 14/15 season where they were champions with a 10 point lead: the 4:1 VS Wolfsburg. In fact, they had gone the whole season unbeaten before that match. KDB afaik had 1 assist and 2 goals in that match, with other words the difference that made the win.
The most brilliant goal of the match was his first though. You would think he is offside, but the rule is that you can never be offside on youre own side. It showed exceptional football intelligence of KDB that he seized the opportunity when it presented itself there and made that goal. And it's also considered that this was likely the day that Pep decided he wanted to manage KDB himself.
And hey, ill make a bold statement that perhaps not a lot of people will even challenge: The day that Messi stops playing is likely the day that KDB will be regarded as the best player in the world.
You would think he is offside, but the rule is that you can never be offside on youre own side.
£200k per week would be very low in this day and age. The bonuses would surely be easily attainable and enormous if that were the case, one would think.Pogba is supposedly the highest paid player in the PL isn't he, on c £300k per week ?
Rumours about KDB are that his new deal will take him up to £200k per week, giving parity with our existing top earners Silva and Aguero
That surprised me, as you'd think KDB would go to near £300k per week based on form and other players around the world
Problem with all that is you are rarely comparing eggs with eggs - city have moved heavily towards a more bonus based pay structure in recent years plus, with all these figures, some will include image rights and some won't but it's rarely made clear. As with transfer fees, there are agendas and politics that mean different parties quote different figures to suit same
True. In fact, he's been class for at least four years running now!
He's been world class since even before city bought him. This season he is unreal, a level above world class.
Yep.pft, we should let his agent know we'd double that offer and let city figure it out from there. That contract's almost an insult given his quality and what player in his range are making...
Sam Lee on Twitter
"Ta-da! The full terms of Kevin De Bruyne’s new contract.
- Paid in euros due to Brexit
- €10m signing-on fee
- €230k per week basic
- €300k per week after extras
- plus other bonuses (win CL/PL/Balon d’Or)
- will be finalised early January "
"Contract until 2023. They just need a meeting to finalise image rights, which will be about £2m per year. Figures for the bonuses are in the link."
"This isn’t in the article but have said it before. De Bruyne loves it at City right now, and particularly loves working with Guardiola. PSG were sniffing around but he said “not for me, Claude.” "
€10m signing on fee - is this normal for an existing player signing a new deal within current contract?
Agree with all that. As I said, hard to know when you're comparing eggs with eggs - is pogba on 300k per week and if so, before or after bonuses and how much are those bonuses. That's the problem - we all 'know' what players earn, but what do we really know ?£200k per week would be very low in this day and age. The bonuses would surely be easily attainable and enormous if that were the case, one would think.
I know he's not a 'face' or a marketable seller, so image rights will be way down on what superstars tend to get, but is he not the first new age star not named Messi who has come up for contract negotiations post Neymar & Mbappé? One would really think this is the time to really push the boat out and see what your worth is to your employers - if De Bruyne is classy enough not to do that, and in the process do himself out of millions, you've really got someone loyal to the cause on your hands.
I was expecting him to break the £300k barrier for the league as I'm sure he could get that elsewhere and just demand City match it or he's off. £200k basic, post-summer window madness, is very low for a potential ballon d'Or winner who is about to enter the peak years of his career, unless the plan is to re-negotiate next summer or something.
Another thing, to sign for so low before the World Cup just seems like an odd thing to do. A star performance in that, and he'd have even more earning potential.
€10m signing on fee - is this normal for an existing player signing a new deal within current contract?
The problem with city's system is that the moment you double mark 1 player, you just open more space for another dangerous player. You have Sane and Sterling wide on the wings, if you don't look out for them they will run riot on youre flank, if you do take special measures to cover them, you open more space for city's 2 playmakers to create the danger from the center. There would be less of an issue if city didn't have dangerous players at all positions but for the moment it clicks everywhere, but if you would double mark KDB he would be intelligent enough to use the opportunity to draw defenders away from their position creating spaces for other players.
If the only difference is the relative position of the team, then you should have a look at how KDB pretty much single handedly managed to destroy a utterly dominating Bayern Munchen with Wolfsburg.
Legendary performance that was, very memorable match.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_FC_Bayern_Munich_season
biggest loss of bayern munchen in the 14/15 season where they were champions with a 10 point lead: the 4:1 VS Wolfsburg. In fact, they had gone the whole season unbeaten before that match. KDB afaik had 1 assist and 2 goals in that match, with other words the difference that made the win.
The most brilliant goal of the match was his first though. You would think he is offside, but the rule is that you can never be offside on youre own side. It showed exceptional football intelligence of KDB that he seized the opportunity when it presented itself there and made that goal. And it's also considered that this was likely the day that Pep decided he wanted to manage KDB himself.
And hey, ill make a bold statement that perhaps not a lot of people will even challenge: The day that Messi stops playing is likely the day that KDB will be regarded as the best player in the world.
True, playing at ballon d'or class.
He's been world class since even before city bought him. This season he is unreal, a level above world class.
What is the level above World class? Galaxy class? He'd be good enough to grace the Milky Way eleven?
He's been world class since even before city bought him. This season he is unreal, a level above world class.
You said it.What is the level above World class? Galaxy class? He'd be good enough to grace the Milky Way eleven?
Same, the guy deserves to finish his season. Might be the best player in Europe this seasonSuch a reckless challenge by Puncheon. I never like seeing top players get injured like that.