Pedro isn't as good as de Bruyne, let alone be better than him. Pedro will be a very good fit in our current setup but let's not pretend he's something he's not.
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Pedro isn't as good as de Bruyne, let alone be better than him. Pedro will be a very good fit in our current setup but let's not pretend he's something he's not.
No I'm not saying he's a world beater. I'm saying he would fit better in city's system than de bruyne. There's a difference.
Hope City dont get him hes so good 
Depends on what way they want to play. De Bruyne is an excellent fit next to Silva in Pelligrini's prefered 4222 system, just like Sterling complements Aguero very well as one of the two forwards.
Pedro has had multiple good seasons, KDB has had just the one. Pedro who I have watched quite a lot, not on youtube but in La Liga, has everything to succeed in the EPL, KDB tried and failed at the first attempt. Mourinho obviously seen something which KDB lacked to be able to play in the Premiership.
Pedro has had multiple good seasons, KDB has had one good season. So is Depay better than KDB as his goals and assists last season exceed KDB? Pedro has won everything with Spain and Barcelona, they don't want him to leave as is his importance to the team. But with Suarez and Neymar ahead of you its hard to displace that kind of quality.
Pedro is someone who's excellent in a particular system even though he isn't brilliant individually. He'l be the same here, very effective. It doesn't make him the better player than de Bruyne or Di Maria like some claim.
I don't know what you're trying to prove with the mourinho bit. He let go of matic too only to sign him again once he had obviously become a much better player. De Bruyne is the same.
Rooney and Mata aren't close to Silva and Aguero in my opinion. I'd have both in top 5 players in the league, and both are the underlying reason why City have finished the last two seasons as top scorers. Depay and Pedro over Sterling and De Bruyne is more of an unknown in this league, more so because I don't know what to expect from Depay just yet - they're both better than Pedro for me though.
Pedro never had anything close to the season De Bruyne had. I've no clue why you want to bring Depay and stats in it, that's just silly.
And why do people keep mentioning that he won everything with Spain as if Pedro has had any meaningful impact on the nationalteam. He's been mostly a sub, with almost no impact. He got to start at the World Cup towards the end of the tournament because with Silva on the wing, they were too narrow and Navas, who was actually prefered over Pedro, wasn't really great. But then, Pedro was fecking awful both in the semifinal and final and subbed off early in the final. De Bruyne's performances for Belgium in the last 3 years shit on Pedro's for Spain, doesn't matter that Pedro was lucky enough to win titles as part of an all time great team.
Fair enough on the Matic point, all I was suggesting was that Mourinho sold him as he didn't have fight to stay at Chelsea and try and break through into the team and prove how good he was. Will he be able to do it at City no-one knows I suppose and KDB and Pedro haven't even arrived yet so its all hear say at the minute. It will interesting to see how the season unfolds if both arrive.
No point in pretending he isnt that good, he is fantastic. I hope he stays.
Formation is one thing the way a team plays is another. Dont confuse the two. Besides Pelligrino prefers a 4-2-2-2 when playing with a target man eg. Llorente at Villarreal and Santa Cruz at Malaga. He prefers 4-5-1 or a 4-3-3 to 4-2-2-2 when playing with Aguero. Keeping that in mind as well as the style of their football I think Pedro would suit them more than de bruyne.
The gap between Silva and Mata is just as wide as that between Aguero and Rooney.
He was quite young back then and not ready. He is now and won't even have to fight anyone to get into the city 11.
Anyeays, I was just arguing the point that Pedro is the better player.
You just said about KDB having a better season than anything Pedro had, Depay had a better season does that make him the better player?
Also to say pedro has never had a season like KDB is crazy there's been at least 4 seasons where he has scored 20 or more goals in a season in all comps and has provided plenty of assists to go with it. Is the effectiveness of a player not the true quality of how good he is? KDB might be a better player individually but Pedro in a suitable team environment is the more effective.
You said in your post that KDB was the better player so it's confusing when you say Pedro is the better player lol. I think pedro is the more effective and as thus makes him a better player.
I feel sick, De bruyne to City...
I was arguing the point that Pedro is the better player meaning I believe he isn't.
More effective in a particular system doesn't make him the better player.
Why are we not after him to replace Mata or do Memphis's role.. The guy is perfect for that and better than what we have.
P.S De Bruyne had 18 assists in his first season for Werder.. This is not a fluke.
P.S De Bruyne had 18 assists in his first season for Werder.. This is not a fluke.
I don't know, LVG probably trust our options in the middle and prefers to sign a winger or inside forward.
A bit of cash, with Mata going the other way would be okay.
Would be fine by me. Memphis - De Bruyne - Pedro is a deadly trio. Creativity and pace.
Really can't fathom why we are not linked with KDB??
Offers pace, power, creativity and of course goals and assists. More so than any player we currently have. The price is steep but considering we've only got a net spend of £20m this summer, why not lump on him?
Offers pace, power, creativity and of course goals and assists. More so than any player we currently have. The price is steep but considering we've only got a net spend of £20m this summer, why not lump on him?
If we get KDB where would Herrera play?
I don't understand why we aren't after him either. We've got plenty of money.
Herrera is competing with Carrick, Bastian & Morgan for a space in the side at the moment. KDB would play further up the field.
It would be overkill, unless someone left, I think. Assuming Pedro joins.
Yeah but vs Spurs he came in instead of Memphis and its the best position for him imo.
They probably won't be able to afford Mata's salary.
De Bruyne, undoubdetly. This doesn't mean that I would be unhappy with Pedro signing, who IMO together with Muller is the ultimate Van Gaal player. De Bruyne would be a far more risky signing, but also more potential.
Overkill where? We are trying to get this type of player anyway.
Fellaini, Young, Mata, Pedro, Herrera, De Bruyne, plus arguably Pereira... is overkill, in my opinion.
Say goodbye to Januzaj too.
One would need to go.
If we bought him instead of Pedro then fair enough.
2010-2011 was very close to it IMO. A bit different, not like being the main man at the team, but still equally brilliant.
The problem is that it was a long time ago. And the other problem is that Pedro generally is a player who needs service to shine, while De Bruyne is a player who creates things from nothing.
He's top class, but City have already spent the same amount of money on Sterling and they need strengthening in other positions far more, so I'm not that worried, if they want to blow another 50m on a player in one of their best equipped positions and ignore defense and midfield, then by all means, fire away.
You've named dropped too many people that are irrelevant. De Bruyne starts couldn't care about the rest.. They've contributed nothing that would be missed except for Fellaini.
Pedro better than De Bruyne and Mata not too far from Silva? That's just plain rude and wrong. Besides, Aguero is one of the best strikers in the world in his prime whilst I can't even remember Rooney playing a full season as a striker. They're both very good players but as pure #9s, there is a considerable gap in quality until Rooney proves otherwise.
You couldn't care about the rest, but that's not how it works in reality.
I'm all for buying him and Pedro, but I'd sell Mata first.
Edit: even forgot Memphis in my list.
doesn't appear that way, he came on and played as a roaming play maker, #10
09/10, he scored 34 goals, then 11/12 he scored 34 goals again. Both times Rooney's been used as an out and out striker for a season, he's broke the 30 goal mark. I'm not sure if he can still do it because right now he does look like he's not quite the player he was, but that could just be because he takes a while to get going. Either way, there's plenty of proof out there from the past that Rooney the striker is every bit as effective as the other top strikers in Europe when at his best there.
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