Is this Starmer’s first taste of the chief Tory press officer doing her totally impartial publicly funded journalism?
Keir Starmer Labour Leader
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Is this Starmer’s first taste of the chief Tory press officer doing her totally impartial publicly funded journalism?
feck this ridiculous cnut.
I really wouldn’t be surprise if Grimes was behind the complaint that led to the invesitgation. The only victor from it will be him and he is absolutely desperate for attention and to depict himself as some poor persecuted working class lad.
Let's just leave out the part where he said "Trump’s answers to the big questions facing America, and the divisive rhetoric around them, are clearly wrong."
All the Starmer supporters in here just being like "well of course he lied during the leadership election campaign, what else do you expect him to do?"
I know you think that this quote somehow paints Corbyn in a bad light, but I can't quite wrap my mind around how.
People wanted a politician leading Labour instead of an idealist, and that's what they've got.
Enjoy it. Now you can vote for him whilst knowing there is literally no point in voting for him other than to avoid voting for another version of him...but I dunno, he knows how to wear a suit properly and is very good at not being able to ask or answer questions like a normal functioning human being, which at some point in time randomly became important factors in running a country.
Enjoy it. Now you can vote for him whilst knowing there is literally no point in voting for him other than to avoid voting for another version of him...but I dunno, he knows how to wear a suit properly and is very good at not being able to ask or answer questions like a normal functioning human being, which at some point in time randomly became important factors in running a country.
Surely because there’s a ridiculous amount of what should be Labour voters that love Trump? Maybe he realised he shouldn’t alienate em?
That's a nice little conspiracy theory right there.
Wouldn’t surprise me, he seems to be the ‘victim’ of something every other week. It amazes me how he’s managed to get a following and a career when he is utterly dreadful. (Darren Grimes not @BobbyManc)
People wanted somebody who is electable. Not going down this path again as it’s been done a million times, I don’t think many on here were particularly enthused by Starmer, but considering the options were him, Raynor and RLB (can’t even remember the others) it was a very uninspiring list of people to choose from.
Ultimately I don’t see a victory for Labour in 2024 as I don’t know how they can win again without Scotland, but I also wouldn’t expect a Tory majority. Perhaps other parties will be more willing to work with Starmer than they were Corbyn.
Its not a backtrack. Why the feck does anyone need our opposition leader to endorse a 74 year old millionaire centre-right candidate for office in another country.
A Biden-Harris ticket is not something I can see him supporting. I sure as feck don’t. They’re right wing politicians with chequered pasts.
Had he endorsed Biden the limp left would be excoriating him with lines like “This is what he wants New New Labour to be”
It’s America. It’s broken. He doesn’t need to back a team.
This might be his line of thought but according to polling Trump is massively unpopular in Britain.
The other really strange thing about the Starmer/Trump thing (beyond it just being a really weird backtrack on what he's expressed previously) is that the entire pitch of Biden to Sanders supporters is very similar to what Starmer will try to do with Corbyn supporters. "Yeah I'm not very radical, but the other side is evil and so you should all suck up any complaints you have about me and vote out of harm reduction" That's clearly, at best, going to be the pitch to the left, and is repeatedly expressed by posters in this thread
Given that… it's utterly bizarre that Starmer doesn't use that question/opportunity to ram down peoples throats how important it is to choose the harm reducing, competent option at elections.
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Given that… it's utterly bizarre that Starmer doesn't use that question/opportunity to ram down peoples throats how important it is to choose the harm reducing, competent option at elections.
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In the video he says he's supporting "Anyone But Trump" and that "we shouldn't underestimate the danger to the world if Trump is relected"
I honestly don’t know what your point is. I think you’ve misunderstood me somewhere.
So it's not a backtrack to go from saying we need anyone else but Trump elected, to refusing to say that?
I don't care about endorsing Biden or not, the point is that Starmer is quickly (and rightly) gaining a reputation as a politician who will say anthing in the short-term, but who you can't trust at all.
And trying to retroactively spin "I want anyone but Trump" as not meaning he would support Biden, is pretty desperate.
I'm sure you're not the only person who does this but I've noticed you doing it quite a bit when I've been browsing the CE. You'd probably get more engagement if you summarised the points made in an article and your thoughts on them rather than just posting a link with no context. Ultimately if we wanted to read Spiked there's already a website to do that.
Starmer "Track and trace in not working"
Tories "yes it is, we have the best track and trace, we're all in this together, CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT, he's not backing the government, Churchill"
Rinse and repeat
He only has to avoid losing too many as he picks up a lot of centrists.
I’d imagine Biden is towards the bottom of his list. It’s Trump vs Biden. He’s already said ‘Anyone but Trump’
Move it along.
Yeah good point. I just find often articles I link to can articulate things better than I can, but I get your point.
Johnson must be shitting it, not another ‘I’m putting the government on notice that you must sort yourselves out’ from the leader of the opposition.
Good, clear press conference from Starmer. He's doing well.
I feel like I’m in the minority because I really like him, he’s switched on, he’s sensible and pragmatic.
You feel like a minority in this thread. It’s not real life though.
He’s great. He would have got most of this stuff right since March.
Clever timing. With the news from SAGE yesterday evening, and the rising number of deaths which are predictably going to get worse in the coming weeks, Boris would have inevitably had to announce a lockdown soon.
Starters handled this well
Starters handled this well
Yeah, this thread is not in any way representative of the country. Or of Labour voters. Or even of the party membership.
He's agreed with everything the bastards have done, other than demanding kids go back to school to get Covid.. Hell, he even went on TV to support Johnson's announcements 3 days before he made them.I don't get it. They were opposing the 10pm curfew on the basis it wasn't necessary, but then said they'd vote in favour of it anyway, now they are abstaining. But now they want all of those places to be shut for three weeks. Forensic.
It looks straight forward to me. There's no point voting against measures (even if there are specific items they don't agree with) which are going into law to help against the spread of the virus, if it's voted down then it won't go into law at all. They're not agreeing to show that they're not happy with the governments approach, hence their approach in abstaining.
Imagine if Corbyn went from saying pubs should be open as much as possible, but we wont vote in support of that, then changed that position to abstaining on it, then hosted a press conference to say all pubs should be shut for 3 weeks, all within 3 or 4 days. Would anyone be calling that smart opposition?
Starmer would be leading a coup to replace him with generic centrist wank #2 by now.
I agree about a circuit breaker but it doesn't mean we can have a jolly time for Christmas, it doesn't take long to resurface if people don't adhere to the advice.
I love how often 'imagine if Corbyn' gets said in this thread.