I mean, it's clear to me that Starmer is following the Blair handbook of cosying up to Murdoch and other elites in exchange for more favourable press coverage. Labour are selling themselves out again just as they did in the nineties. Maybe it's their only path to power?
Keir Starmer Labour Leader
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Seems the price is higher this time around as well.
Thanks to the complete collapse of The Tories, they were already miles ahead, and, arguably, could have done it without them. While Blair embraced the filthy Australian, at least he came to power with a sense of optimism. Starmer is offering nothing but continuity. No electoral reform, no public services reform, no tax reform and no energy reform. Nothing.
Starmer seeing a buy 1 get 1 free deal in Greggs
I'm not sure Starmer is against a 2-4-1 at Greggs. Have you seen the size his entire head has ballooned to since 2019? If you want an example of growth, this one is stunning.
Another pledge gone
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Another pledge gone
You can feel however you want to about Just Stop Oil and their methods, but I'm pretty sure that calling demands to stop drilling for fossil fuel "contemptible" is going to make the history books as some kind of cautionary "look how serious they were about ruining the world" thing.
They're not even asking to stop drilling in existing oil fields anyway which makes the headline and Starmer's comment ridiculous. They just want the new licences revoked.
Well you seem a little triggered. Ok, I'll say it directly maybe I'll get another entertaining response: You live a fantasy. Truss bombs the economy and forces up the cost of debt servicing because she thought she could keep borrowing and spending at will. She also made her case as being about growth. But it made no difference. The markets decided they did not want to fund it.
Yet all that is waved away because it is inconvenient. The funding of a 10% gap in a higher interest rate world where we owe 100 per cent of GDP, is apparently immaterial to political choices available to Labour. Pointing out this reality means I am bad.
Yeah you are no better than the people on the right wing of the tories who think reality can similarly be wished away. I don't take them seriously, and I don't take you seriously, for the same reason.
Right, let see how that lands.
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I see nimic is counting things again.
This is what having zero principles looks like.
What was I saying earlier about grown up arguments? You've proven my point.
If you want to know why people don't trust the Corbyn wing of labour in elections, just read the replies to my recent posts. They never ever learn.
Stop pointing out things he said, that's very rude.
It’s a bit disingenuous to say that the markets reacted the way they did to Truss and Kwarteng’s budget just because it was borrowing money when our debt is already high.
They wanted to borrow £45 billion to fund tax cuts, predominantly for the wealthiest. They didn’t even let the OBR assess their plans in advance of announcing the budget, as is usual practice. That concerned the markets because they know that isn’t a recipe for growth.
It seems like you are trying to argue the markets would have reacted the same way if the borrowing was for investment initiatives to help growth.
rent free
Meanwhile you're happily cheering Tory policies because it says Labour next to the name of the guy fronting them. Maybe you're actually a Tory, huh?
Sorry, read this as they support his proposal? At this point anything Starmer related is just fodder for people to make stuff up.Another pledge gone
June - Starmer said he would block any new gas and oil exploration. This got the backing from progressive groups.
July - The tories announce plans for new gas and oil exploration
August - Starmer say Labour would not revoke any existing gas and oil licenses.
Not sure what the problem is with any of these, Starmer is saying what Labour will do if they were in power
He's saying they won't grant any new ones and won't cancel any existing ones, the ones the Tories are granting will be existing ones by the time Labour gets in
Your just scared of a incoming Labour government or something!
Shitty move distancing himself from the Mayor in London regarding the ULEZ expansion.
One of us now Stw
Never.
Tory.
I’ve soured on him massively in the last few months. The man is a fraud.
Yep, pretty much. He's so scared of potential attack lines from the Tories and right wing media that he is terrified to actually stand for anything at all.
I'd have totally disregarded him and forgotten about his idiocy in any system other than FPTP. Idiot.
It’s crazy. What if the Tories attack you? They’re the ones in government ffs! This mess is theirs.
Could be something of a trend
20% turnout and she won with 318 votes so the percentages are almost redundant. I can’t find anything out about her online which suggests she’s probably a Tory candidate they’ve white labelled to make more competitive.
Would agree with this.