Keane on Haaland

Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Probably not

Are you gonna sue the FA?</strong><hr></blockquote>

So if they ban him for say 6 more games based on new evidence would you say he had it coming?
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Originally posted by Nate:
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As you lot focus on everything positive.

Never anything wrong with your lot eh?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Eh, if you read a lot of posts and threeads, you'll see that we discuss a lot of negative things about the club..
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Originally posted by Nate:
<strong>Right, so court case apart (if there is actually going to be one)

Is 4 games enough punishment for a player who admitted to trying to end another ones career on the basis of a vendetta?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hard to prove that he was trying to end the other players career. If you punch or headbutt someone on the pitch, which could be ABH off it, you get a red card and 4 match ban. This is a non-story hyped up by the media and ABU's like yourself.
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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maybe its because hes a united player and every thing hes done for us over the years

i'll back him to the hilt whatever like eric</strong><hr></blockquote>

So you'll back him no matter what he does?

Would you say you're objective re this incident?
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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yea great post that was</strong><hr></blockquote>

You would back him no matter what? your words mate.
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> The tackles are flying around here today <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Eh, if you read a lot of posts and threeads, you'll see that we discuss a lot of negative things about the club..</strong><hr></blockquote>

Until an opposing fan gets involved and points something out that you don't like...
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Originally posted by Davo:
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So you'll back him no matter what he does?

Would you say you're objective re this incident?</strong><hr></blockquote>

yes and yes

im objective to most things football
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Originally posted by Nate:
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So if they ban him for say 6 more games based on new evidence would you say he had it coming?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe

But only if the FA follow that line, and give out tougher punishment for players that could easily have snapped other players' leg in two etc
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
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Hard to prove that he was trying to end the other players career. If you punch or headbutt someone on the pitch, which could be ABH off it, you get a red card and 4 match ban. This is a non-story hyped up by the media and ABU's like yourself.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So what is your version of "to do a player then"?
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Originally posted by Rory 7:
<strong>Davo, I hear that gooner is going to sue Jamie Carragher for throwing coins at him. Say it was pre-meditated.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Whats the point in making a comment like that?

You've been pretty reasonable up to now, and then come up with that....can you not see the difference?
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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yes and yes

im objective to most things football</strong><hr></blockquote>

But only for your team eh?
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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You must be new to this board

Davo's mission in life is to focus on everything negative about Man United</strong><hr></blockquote>


So this is a positive story?

If you don't want to discuss it you don't have to..
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I'd imagine the FA are going to bring a disrepute charge over this involving a ban etc

He's served a ban for the tackle but he's not served anything for publishing how he puposely went out to nail an opposition player.

This is an unprecidented case in terms of modern English footballer for a player still performing at the top level to make such statements.

I personally reckon he could be made an example of as this sort of thing really needs to be nipped in the bud. how's Haaland going to feel coming up against Keane in a match from this point on? knowing full well that Keane may again be planning to try and break his leg?

it's a cold and calculated assault ("...waited until 5/10 mins from the end...") and deserves the harshest punishment.

Cantona was banned for 8 months after attacking a fan in a moment of anger where he completely lost the plot under provocation, I wonder what will happen to Keane for a planned assault on a fellow player? could be bigger than Cantona's ban imo.

not sure what could happen re Civil case, Haaland could certainly claim some sort of mental trauma (ie scared to take pitch in case someone was out to get me etc started thinking of all previous fouls that may have done in case the player may have been seeking retribution)

as an example and role model Keane has really let himself down here. I think the only thing that could save him is if the quotes have been taken out of context.
 
Originally posted by Davo:
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I don't know why you're so intent on defending him when he's clearly in the wrong..</strong><hr></blockquote>

As long as you appreciate that I'm defending him in general, for the truly great years he's been a big part of.... and NOT for that one incident.

He's a great great player.

As long SAF has hold of his reigns he'll continue to be vital to our cause.

He WILL lift that Prem title in May - no worries

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Originally posted by Knoxy:
<strong>I'd imagine the FA are going to bring a disrepute charge over this involving a ban etc

He's served a ban for the tackle but he's not served anything for publishing how he puposely went out to nail an opposition player.

This is an unprecidented case in terms of modern English footballer for a player still performing at the top level to make such statements.

I personally reckon he could be made an example of as this sort of thing really needs to be nipped in the bud. how's Haaland going to feel coming up against Keane in a match from this point on? knowing full well that Keane may again be planning to try and break his leg?

it's a cold and calculated assault ("...waited until 5/10 mins from the end...") and deserves the harshest punishment.

Cantona was banned for 8 months after attacking a fan in a moment of anger where he completely lost the plot under provocation, I wonder what will happen to Keane for a planned assault on a fellow player? could be bigger than Cantona's ban imo.

not sure what could happen re Civil case, Haaland could certainly claim some sort of mental trauma (ie scared to take pitch in case someone was out to get me etc started thinking of all previous fouls that may have done in case the player may have been seeking retribution)

as an example and role model Keane has really let himself down here. I think the only thing that could save him is if the quotes have been taken out of context.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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You fecking numnut!
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Maybe

But only if the FA follow that line, and give out tougher punishment for players that could easily have snapped other players' leg in two etc</strong><hr></blockquote>

But no other player has admitted that they wanted to hurt a fellow player.

Just because he didn't actually break his leg does that make it better?

I agree players should be punished harder for dangerous tackles, however saying in print you actually went for that player is a whole new set of rules.
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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yes and yes

im objective to most things football</strong><hr></blockquote>


But you'd back a player no matter what?

How can you be objective if you'll side with one of your players under any circumstances?
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Originally posted by Davo:
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But you'd back a player no matter what?

How can you be objective if you'll side with one of your players under any circumstances?</strong><hr></blockquote>


Seeems the norm on here though.


Served his time they say.
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Are you claiming to be objective? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm obviously biased towards my team, as everyone is..

Not to the extent that I'll back one of our players in any circumstance tho, or believe that they can do no wrong..
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Originally posted by Davo:
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I'm obviously biased towards my team, as everyone is..

Not to the extent that I'll back one of our players in any circumstance tho, or believe that they can do no wrong..</strong><hr></blockquote>

If Gerrard had injured Neville with intent, would you turn against him?
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Originally posted by Davo:
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I'm obviously biased towards my team, as everyone is..

Not to the extent that I'll back one of our players in any circumstance tho, or believe that they can do no wrong..</strong><hr></blockquote>

nobody said they believe there team does no wrong but will back them because its the team they support

and thats how i feel on this
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Originally posted by Davo:
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I'm obviously biased towards my team, as everyone is..

Not to the extent that I'll back one of our players in any circumstance tho, or believe that they can do no wrong..</strong><hr></blockquote>

Surely that's just aswell. It's certainly an attitude that will serve you well after you've won roxy this season

:D
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Really? I thought I was forced to :rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Well what are you whinging about?

The fact that I'm discussing a negative story about Keane in a negative fashion?

:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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If Gerrard had injured Neville with intent, would you turn against him?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not agianst him, however I wouldn't complain at any punishment he got because he would be due it.
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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If Gerrard had injured Neville with intent, would you turn against him?</strong><hr></blockquote>

he'd be on here taking the piss
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Originally posted by Davo:
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Well what are you whinging about?

The fact that I'm discussing a negative story about Keane in a negative fashion?

:rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm not whinging

Merely observing that you only focus on negative Man United stories
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
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he'd be on here taking the piss</strong><hr></blockquote>

And you lot would want him banned for life..
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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I'm not whinging

Merely observing that you only focus on negative Man United stories</strong><hr></blockquote>

its called opposition..
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Originally posted by Davo:
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Whats the point in making a comment like that?

You've been pretty reasonable up to now, and then come up with that....can you not see the difference?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm only having a laugh Davo. Yeah I can see there are two sides to it. Keano's tackle on Haaland was out of order. We knew it was out of order back then and we knew the background to the tackle. It was fecking obvious why Keane decided to tackle Haaland. Now there is uproar again because part of his book describes what he was thinking on the pitch at the time.

Put it this way. Its double standards. It was obvious that Keane took revenge back then and the FA ignored it. But now that Keane admits it was revenge everyone jumps up and down about it.
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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If Gerrard had injured Neville with intent, would you turn against him?</strong><hr></blockquote>

If he set out to hurt him intentionally, and this was confirmed by him afterwards, then yes...

I'd think he was a disgrace and that he was stupid..

Not that I think he's a cowardly player who would do such a thing
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davo was it not obvious to you when it happened that it was done with intent?

so why the uproar now?
 
Originally posted by Rory 7:
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I'm only having a laugh Davo. Yeah I can see there are two sides to it. Keano's tackle on Haaland was out of order. We knew it was out of order back then and we knew the background to the tackle. It was fecking obvious why Keane decided to tackle Haaland. Now there is uproar again because part of his book describes what he was thinking on the pitch at the time.

Put it this way. Its double standards. It was obvious that Keane took revenge back then and the FA ignored it. But now that Keane admits it was revenge everyone jumps up and down about it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well put
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Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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Not any?</strong><hr></blockquote>

See now you have resorted to splitting hairs.

You know what I mean, obviously if he was banned for life it would be a different matter, but a long ban would be in order..
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