Kaka to United?

If I had to make a list of the most pointless transfers United could make now, Kaka on loan would be very high up that list, preceeded possibly only by a £12m transfer of Matthew Etherington and a loan move for Hugh Grant from Hollywood.
 
It's those dam Glazers. Sign as many attacking players as possible to cause SAF to go insane while trying to pick a team. They then take advantage of his fragile mental state and get him to praise them in public.
 
It's those dam Glazers. Sign as many attacking players as possible to cause SAF to go insane while trying to pick a team. They then take advantage of his fragile mental state and get him to praise them in public.

At one point Ferguson will send two very offensive 343 XIs on the pitch and barricade the other team in their locker room, then refuse to let anyone out of the stadium.
 
Alternatively he will send 13 players on and hope no one notices. Like no one would ever notice if Fabio played instead of Rafael.
 
Regardless of the likely bullshit rumours, I've said for years that I think SAF could get Kaka back to a level close to his best.

One of my favourite ever players, absolutely incredible back in '06/07

Huge overstatement in my opinion. Thought he was miles better a couple of years before that - Kaka got the award that year based on a few Champions League performances, but Totti was considerably better than him in Serie A. Thought it was ridiculous that Ronaldo didn't win that year.

This rumour is surely bollocks. There would be absolutely no logic in signing Kaka whatsoever at this point. It's genuinely been about 8 years since we've seen Kaka at his best, and we've just signed two attacking players that are class right now.
 
Huge overstatement in my opinion. Thought he was miles better a couple of years before that - Kaka got the award that year based on a few Champions League performances, but Totti was considerably better than him in Serie A. Thought it was ridiculous that Ronaldo didn't win that year.

This rumour is surely bollocks. There would be absolutely no logic in signing Kaka whatsoever at this point. It's genuinely been about 8 years since we've seen Kaka at his best, and we've just signed two attacking players that are class right now.

Maybe the Glazers have worked out some new plan regarding shirt sales with Nike in a similar deal to Real Madrid's?
 
Seriously though, I'm not so sure Kaka will be so keen to swap the Real bench for the United bench.
 
yeah, another attacking midfielder is just what we need, feck logic.
 
There is probably some truth to it.

Guillem Ballague rubbished the rumours on Twitter, claiming 'It is completely false'
 
Regardless of the likely bullshit rumours, I've said for years that I think SAF could get Kaka back to a level close to his best.

One of my favourite ever players, absolutely incredible back in '06/07

What has Ferguson ever done to make you think he's capable of resurrecting an underperforming 30+ year old player's career? He never signs players like that.
 
What has Ferguson ever done to make you think he's capable of resurrecting an underperforming 30+ year old player's career? He never signs players like that.

Sheringham was 31 when we signed him, and Sir Alex definitely took him to a new level.
 
Sheringham was 31 when we signed him, and Sir Alex definitely took him to a new level.

The sheer fact of playing for United took him to a new level. Kaka was already at that level. He needs to find it again after some big injury problems.
 
howard nurse also seems to have a personal agenda of quashing any Kaka rumours.
what i don't get is, why would the likes of agent 153 do this?
 
Sheringham was 31 when we signed him, and Sir Alex definitely took him to a new level.

Sheringham hadn't suffered a protracted drop off as Kaka has, but fine, I'll grant you that one, are there any others?

Seriously?

Yeah, seriously, I see this about loads of players who've underperformed, lost their mojo or have lousy attitudes, the idea that Ferguson can magically resurrect their careers despite him having next to zero track record of doing that.

Ferguson signs players who want to achieve success and usually haven't in the past, not players who have achieved an awful lot in the past and then let their careers slide for whatever reason. Naturally this is normally young players, but even the older players he's signed, Berbatov, Owen, van Persie, Sheringham, they all fit the profile of having something to prove by winning something.

Do you have any examples of us making a signing similar to this one? Larsson on an emergency loan is the only one I can think of.
 
Sheringham hadn't suffered a protracted drop off as Kaka has, but fine, I'll grant you that one, are there any others?



Yeah, seriously, I see this about loads of players who've underperformed, lost their mojo or have lousy attitudes, the idea that Ferguson can magically resurrect their careers despite him having next to zero track record of doing that.

Ferguson signs players who want to achieve success and usually haven't in the past, not players who have achieved an awful lot in the past and then let their careers slide for whatever reason. Naturally this is normally young players, but even the older players he's signed, Berbatov, Owen, van Persie, Sheringham, they all fit the profile of having something to prove by winning something.

Do you have any examples of us making a signing similar to this one? Larsson on an emergency loan is the only one I can think of.

Maybe Van Der Sar, but then again we actually needed a keeper then and really badly (he was also decent for Fulham from what I can remember). We seriously don't need Kaka, it'd be bizarre if we signed him.
 
Shits and giggles

ya, but he was really apologetic about getting gaston ramirez wrong, felt genuine.
he does not deserve much credit for the rvp thing though. a lot of people were talking about it, i don't think he broke the new of a possibility. that news was already flying.
 
Maybe Van Der Sar, but then again we actually needed a keeper then and really badly (he was also decent for Fulham from what I can remember). We seriously don't need Kaka, it'd be bizarre if we signed him.

it will be good fun though. don't know where the money for all those wages are going come from though. rvp's wages, nani will have a new one soon, berba might stay on. if we add kaka to the wage bill, it will be quite bloated
 
Ok, well, what makes me think that SAF could help Kaka is the fact he has a legendary ability in getting his players to perform. No evidence other than Sir Alex being the greatest manager of all time.
 
Ok, well, what makes me think that SAF could help Kaka is the fact he has a legendary ability in getting his players to perform. No evidence other than Sir Alex being the greatest manager of all time.

Well I usually trust Fergie with players' career too, but one of the main reasons for that is, that, usually he has a role for every player, he does not overload his team with stars. even in berba's case, fergie was not sure about tevez, and tevez did leave, berba could not make it, but fergie did have a plan for him. the same goes for veron, even though scholes was in the team, scholes was moved up to a more forward-like position to play veron as the CAM.
but if united do get kaka, we will actually be overloading us with attacking players. that seems to be the plan this year, i think we were in for both hazard and kagawa. now when hazard did not work out, we got rvp, we were in for moura as well. it seems that if fergie had his way, we would have hazard/rvp, kagawa and moura.
anyway, so with so many attacking players some will actually fail to make an impact, and the reason could be that fergie did not give them the chance to make one.
 
Ok, well, what makes me think that SAF could help Kaka is the fact he has a legendary ability in getting his players to perform. No evidence other than Sir Alex being the greatest manager of all time.

It's absurd to look at his ability to get his players to perform in isolation from his selection policy for the players he brings in. Players perform in his teams because he almost invariably selects players who have something to prove to play for his club. In any case, Kaka already plays under a manager who has a rather good reputation himself for getting the best out of players, and he's not exactly been pulling up any trees recently, what makes you think Ferguson can do what Mourinho can't?
 
This he can revive players crap has been said way too many times, lately in relation to Ronaldinho, Adriano and now Kaka. When has he even taken a damaged player with continous poor form?
 
A 30 year old, slightly injury prone former Ballon D'or winner signing for us, possibly on a free? At least he'll score a last minute winner versus City.