We will just have to wait and see how they do next season in the EPL.In my world Pulisic is and will be the better player. Statswise per minute , Rashford is slightly better, but he took 6 pentalties too. I am not forcing you to agree with me, based on what I have seen from Pulisic in Dortmund and Chelsea, I would take him over Rashford. I am a huge fan of how Martial has developed and transitioned into the 9 position, but Werner is for me the better striker. If you would have watched him regularely , then you would knew he primarely played as a CF , which is his best position. He already played this position during his time in Stuttgart and under Hasenhüttel in Leipzig starting in season 16/17 with an impressive record of 21 goals. While Martial has been a successful CF , Werner also has been a successful CFfor 4-5 years already. Leipzig playingwith 2 strikers sometimes doesn't change the fact that Werner is a experienced CF.
This is a really inaccurate assessment of Rashford and Martial this season.When I visit this forum I see a lot of hate for Rashford. I rate him but you guys have messed him around as much as Phil Jones. Neither have a definitive position. I still feel he plays as a striker playing out wide as opposed to an actual inverted winger (Anelka type) but when he plays up front he doesn’t seem to have that killer finish.
Martial gets a lot of penalties but isn’t quite a number 9 either. He is probably a better LW than Rashford.
So you are saying a team without an actual out-out striker and one without a RW is better than the line up you gave? Bruno I’ll let you have that one but I just don’t see it. You definitely have a frightening counter attack team but it’ll never dominate a team like Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez did.
but hey-ho let’s see next season.
Why we were never in for him? Should have been a Plan B for Grealish.
I watch both leagues regularely and without any bias I would say it is even. IF I had to decide for one, I would take Chelsea`s. Imo Pulisic > Rashford, Werner > Martial, Bruno = Havertz, Sancho > Ziyech.
The original plastic team are splashing the cash and getting decent players in. Always will come with an asterisk whatever they achieve. They are not known as the Rentboys for nothing. Plastic fantastic.
I watch both leagues regularely and without any bias I would say it is even. IF I had to decide for one, I would take Chelsea`s. Imo Pulisic > Rashford, Werner > Martial, Bruno = Havertz, Sancho > Ziyech.
Agree. But I think Martial has the potential to be better than Werner and Havertz to be better than Bruno.
We seem to be forgetting Greenwood
We seem to be forgetting Greenwood
What a fraud, caught with pants down. Copying articles from few sites and posting them as own posts and then come up with cringeworthy "mod should pin my analysis".
In what world is Pulisic better than Rashford?
You actually think Pulisic is better? Cute.
It may have been a debate a few months ago but since the restart Puli has gone up a level.You actually think Pulisic is better? Cute.
It may have been a debate a few months ago but since the restart Puli has gone up a level.
And before you say it's small sample size, it's not that much smaller than what you lot are basing Bruno being the second coming of Christ on.
It may have been a debate a few months ago but since the restart Puli has gone up a level.
And before you say it's small sample size, it's not that much smaller than what you lot are basing Bruno being the second coming of Christ on.
Im just pointing out an obvious inconsistency in the argument.You're really bitter Dan. Not sure what you get from posting on the Caf anymore mate. Can't be good for your health.
Im just pointing out an obvious inconsistency in the argument.
You seem to love going down this bitter route. I remember you pulled the same card when I tried to warn you Jose (in the present day) and Lukaku weren't very good, an opinion the vast majority of United fans now hold.
Was he not asking for the copied text to be stickied as well? Oh damn
Pulisic has been very good recently, but we need more time to see whether this is just a hot streak or whether this is really him "upping" the level.It may have been a debate a few months ago but since the restart Puli has gone up a level.
And before you say it's small sample size, it's not that much smaller than what you lot are basing Bruno being the second coming of Christ on.
And what digs would they be? A lot of shade has been thrown about our team lately and United have happened to be used as favrouble comparisons, at absolute worst I'm playing tit for tat.Maybe it's just the limited sample size I see of your posts but you seem to have gone from being decent to quite fixated about defending Chelsea to the hilt and making digs at United at every opportunity. You're losing pretty much all your credibility as an oppo on here because of it which is a shame as I used to have you as a decent one.
Rashford has been great since the break? Its only West Ham and Leicester that hes been quiet but thats because he's holding the width. His all round play has gone up a notch.It may have been a debate a few months ago but since the restart Puli has gone up a level.
And before you say it's small sample size, it's not that much smaller than what you lot are basing Bruno being the second coming of Christ on.
I watch both leagues regularely and without any bias I would say it is even. IF I had to decide for one, I would take Chelsea`s. Imo Pulisic > Rashford, Werner > Martial, Bruno = Havertz, Sancho > Ziyech.
In my world Pulisic is and will be the better player. Statswise per minute , Rashford is slightly better, but he took 6 pentalties too. I am not forcing you to agree with me, based on what I have seen from Pulisic in Dortmund and Chelsea, I would take him over Rashford.
FFShttps://totalfootballanalysis.com/player-analysis/kai-havertz-bayer-leverkusen-analysis
You that from there mate? Strikingly similar.
And what digs would they be? A lot of shade has been thrown about our team lately and United have happened to be used as favrouble comparisons, at absolute worst I'm playing tit for tat.
For example, i dislike Liverpool a lot more than I ever have disliked United (tbf bar the dickheads in school and college I've never really had any serious negatives against you not even after Moscow) yet if someone told me not one of our players would get in a combined Xl I won't argue it (I'll maybe argue a midfielder but that's the absolute maximum) when the same is said with a team that's been around our level for the last few years I'll contest it. Whenever someone has said (paraphrasing) we're both in a similar boat and will probably be the next teams to challenge once City/Liverpool drop off/need a rebuild I've happily clappily agreed in perfect harmony.
If that makes me come across as whatever you want to call it then so be it but let's be honest people debating/arguing with me aren't always innocent, remember the grief I got in the "will the PL be voided" thread for having an (ultimately correct) opinion?
Pulisic has been very good recently, but we need more time to see whether this is just a hot streak or whether this is really him "upping" the level.
It'll be interesting to see if he's even a first choice player once Werner, Ziyech and Havertz join.
It wouldn't have even been a conversation a few months ago given Pulisic went from Dortmund bench to Chelsea mediocrity. Now it's a comparison worth being made because Pulisic is playing well and Rashford has gone up a level this season too.It may have been a debate a few months ago but since the restart Puli has gone up a level.
And before you say it's small sample size, it's not that much smaller than what you lot are basing Bruno being the second coming of Christ on.
That's true. They are definitely comparable players.This also applies to Rashford tbf as he was great from Oct - Jan when Martial was around, then got injured and his form has not been the same since the restart.
Correct me if I've got this wrong but isn't it the amount of oppo fans on this place that has elevated it to arguably the best football forum on the net?I think you just need not get sucked in to making pointless digs in these tit for tats in that case. There's thousands of United fans on here and a large number of idiots. There's fewer oppo fans so if you start letting yourself get dragged into WUMing (which you definitely have even if you don't admit it) you'll stand out alot more and lose your credibility. That's the poison chalice of posting on another teams forum unfortunately and something you can't get away from.
Rashford was very good post restart. His passing and all round play were much better after the restart than before.This also applies to Rashford tbf as he was great from Oct - Jan when Martial was around, then got injured and his form has not been the same since the restart.
I think you just need not get sucked in to making pointless digs in these tit for tats in that case. There's thousands of United fans on here and a large number of idiots. There's fewer oppo fans so if you start letting yourself get dragged into WUMing (which you definitely have even if you don't admit it) you'll stand out alot more and lose your credibility. That's the poison chalice of posting on another teams forum unfortunately and something you can't get away from.
He has been great since though, just in a different way.This also applies to Rashford tbf as he was great from Oct - Jan when Martial was around, then got injured and his form has not been the same since the restart.
Rashford was very good post restart. His passing and all round play were much better after the restart than before.
He has been great since though, just in a different way.
His all round game has jumped a level imo. I didnt know he could make the passes that hes doing now
Rashford was very good post restart. His passing and all round play were much better after the restart than before.
He has been great since though, just in a different way.
His all round game has jumped a level imo. I didnt know he could make the passes that hes doing now
There's thinking Rashford is not yet world class and then there's saying fecking Pulisic whom good games could be counted by hand is a better player.Thing is, you can't even voice your opinion about a highly rated United player in recent months if it doesn't suit the board consensus. It's enough to say that you think Rashford is a good talent but not a worldclass one to get anatoginzed left, right and center. Discussing topics related to United isn't fun if you're not a fan. Hard to not take part in that and provoke back those posters a little here and there.
I like Rashford and would usually back him just through his pure effort and for the fact he gives his all. However I'm one of the ones who thought he looked well off his usual pace since the restart.Exactly, he had few poor games but this "he was poor since restart" is just way off the mark.
Anyways not sure why every thread ends up with comparing players and especially with Rashford.