Ideally I'd want him to take a job in Italy for a couple of years before succeeding lvg but he didn't strike me as someone who does short stints sadly.
Jurgen Klopp
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Mourinho is not a Trendsetter or an innovative Coach. His method is to exploit the opponents tactics rather than force his own onto the Opponent. Reacting instead of acting. A leech.
It will probably be a job in England or Germany.
I don't see a job for him in Germany, at least not this summer (and even next summer it's very unlikely). I'd be very surprised if he didn't end up in England. If Liverpool really fire Rodgers, I'd say that's a very likely destination for him. I doubt he's as much annoyed of losing a player each year as many people believe. That wasn't the reason why he left in my opinion and I could see him being excited about the challenge to take Liverpool to a higher level.
If he gets offered the Liverpool job I have no doubt that he'd take it.
He's said in the past that he can imagine himself managing in England, more so than in Spain, mostly because of the language and because he likes the league more. I think that a climate change is the best for him and also don't see him taking a job next season in Germany, especially if he gets offered a PL job, as there isn't really a step up from Dortmund except for Bayern in the Bundesliga.
While the two ex Barça directors are at City, I don't see Klopp going there. For me Liverpool or Arsenal would be his most likely destination. More chance of the Liverpool job becoming available at the end of the season than the Arsenal one.
I think if he thinks long and hard about his next job he's unlikely to take a job where he once again has to accept losing a player each season. You can't progress by making 3 steps back every time you want to take two forward. I think he'll be looking for a job where he can genuinely build something over a longer period than four years this time.
No chance of Barca entering the sweepstakes? Where does Enrique's stock lie at the moment?
I think he should hold out for a top job. No point in going to Liverpool and working under the same restrictions he had to deal with at Dortmund. Top players will want to move to bigger clubs whenever the opportunity presents itself.
Which club would you suggest then, where he can have that?
I can't see Klopp at Barça. Stylistically, it feels an odd fit in my eyes. If Luis Enrique only wins the Copa Del Rey, I can't see him staying. There are presidential elections later this year, so anything can happen, but I can't see Klopp at Barça.
I still think Liverpool is the perfect job for him unless of course the Arsenal job becomes available
Arsenal, City, United or Chelsea are the only teams he could do that.
Arsenal: Best fit but I think Wenger wants the league before he finishes. I think he'll have another couple of years personally.
United: Another good fit but he'll have to wait at least two seasons and even then there's a good possibility it'll be handed over to Giggs (which I'm not happy about).
Chelsea: Who knows how long Maureen has planned. At least 2 or 3 years you'd imagine.
Which leaves City: Worst fit for him in terms of current players assuming he will adopt his current system but they're in a good position to change that. He could clear out 6/8 players and make another £100m on top of their current kitty and make it his own in the space of two seasons.
Liverpool would be a similar situation to Dortmund, only in a league with more competition for the Top 7 and very little chance of winning the league as teams will be miles more settled and stronger than what Rodgers was up against in that freak season last year.
In terms of hitting the ground running with a squad of players he could fit into his system, sure. But that's a very short sighted view. In terms of building something he'd struggle with the competition they have and financial might they don't have.
I'd pay for his ticket back to Ireland.
I'm not claiming to be some sort of football mastermind - In fact my indepth knowledge of the game is probably less than the majority of fans on this site, but I know that playing players in their natural positions is a good thing, and starting a cup semi-final without a striker on the pitch is a stupid fecking thing to do
Klopp has done some fairly stupid things this season as well. Infact all things considered he's done worse than Rodgers.
I am surprised by such majority of Liverpool fans wanting this change. Rodgers has done a fairly good job at Liverpool since he took over though has limitations.
I highly doubt he plans so far ahead, I doubt any manager in football plans so far ahead. It's impossible for so many reasons, no matter what club you go to. He won't take a year off, if Liverpool offer him the job while United, Chelsea, Arsenal and City don't. Why would he? Just because in a year it could maybe be different? Worst case for him, he'd be in the same spot again next year.
I think his reaction in the press conference regarding the rumours that he'll take a year off was pretty telling. He's not burned out, he doesn't want an extended vacation, he wants to work again.
This would worry me. He'd be ideal for them, although on the other hand I think Rodgers deserves a lot more time.
As for klopp himself, I think it's time for him to move to a different club which is the final destination for most players. At Liverpool he'd just be trying to redo what he did at Dortmund.
City seems to have this obsession with Pep. It's all you ever here, whenever I've been on Bluemoon they've been banging on about when Pep will take over. Are they that sure they will bag him? I know they've got them fellas upstairs from Barca. But what if Wenger and LVG call it a day when Pep leaves Bayern. Is Pep really going to choose City over United and Arsenal? And then if he doesn't City may have appointed Viera or whoever else for no reason. All seems a little risky to me.
On Klopp, I could see him at Liverpool and there was a post suggesting he'd turn down Arsenal for them. City, fair enough, but I doubt he'd reject Arsenal for Liverpool. That one doesn't make sense to me.
On Klopp, I could see him at Liverpool and there was a post suggesting he'd turn down Arsenal for them. City, fair enough, but I doubt he'd reject Arsenal for Liverpool. That one doesn't make sense to me.
I think that Liverpool are in a way better position financially than Dortmund are, I also think that the only clubs that are "final destinations" for players are Real, Barca, and maybe Chelsea, Arsenal and United, and even at United we're fearing that De Gea might want to join Real Madrid. I think that's a little too ambitious from his perspective and I don't know if any of those 5 clubs would be interested in him.
So if Klopp goes on to his next job (Liverpool or City most likely) and fails at that job, would people then class his initial success as just being down to the squad he had available and not so much him directly? Going to be interesting either way seeing how he copes in a new league and type of competition.
No. I don't like this new concept of people's accomplishments being disregarded because they didn't follow it up with good work. He did a great job at Dortmund irrespective of what happens in the future, same with any other manager.
Liverpool could be a great fit for him. Could see him turning them into long term title contenders if he got enough freedom to make his own decisions.
No. You just need to see where they were when he came and where he took them to realize it wasnt the squad that was responsible, that squad had wasnt good enough on paper to win 2 titles and reach the CL finals. They out played teams like Real, City etc on the way too.
Txiki Begiristain being sports director there can't possibly have something to do with it?
I think United, Chelsea, City, real and barca are a step above (the latter further step probably). You get the odd player like de gea or Ronaldo wanting to go to Spain but it's very very rare. If I were klopp I'd first look at these options. But yes, if none had an opening, then Liverpool would be a good option.
Having said that, I'm not so sure Liverpool should be going for klopp. Given what Brendon achieved last season he deserves more time.
I can see him being linked with PSG after tonight.
I'll never understand this need to make things official before the season ends. Yes it clarifies the situation from a media POV but is there a real need ?
Borussia Dortmund is a company on the stock market. This status includes that the officials (first and foremost Watzke as CEO) are legally bound to announce significant changes in the company towards the stock holder as soon as they occur. The moment the "BILD" broke the news (I believe this came from Hamburg after Tuchel suddenly declined their offer) about Klopp terminating his contract at the season end, they had no choice but to come clean. It was also the only way to contract the by far most favoured choice as successor (before mentioned Tuchel) already and be set for the future.
From an emotional stand point, it gives Klopp the chance for a "farewell tour" and potentially motivates the squad (either out of gratitude for Klopp or to make positive impressions for Tuchel) for the final matches.
All in all, this might have been the most graceful and honest way to handle the whole situation.
I didn't know about all those reasons so it makes sense, however about the players, I don't even know they could care about their manager this way. I see footballers as very individualistic persons.
Spahero's covered it, but I'd add that it's a sign of respect as well. The chances are someone could leak that he is leaving and then there would be endless speculation in the press about it. Klopp just coming out and saying it as it is means that won't happen and the focus can be on what is happening on the pitch, and his honesty shows respect for the fans.
If the United dream job quotes are true, do you think Klopp would come to United and work under LVG for a couple of seasons or is that just crazy thinking?
Personally i think he's nailed on for City. Can't see him going to Liverpool, Arsenal job won't be available and Perez will keep Ancelotti.
His style of football is the very opposite to what City have been pursuing for the last few years. They'll do anything to get Pep (which won't be enough). I'm not convinced Perez will keep Ancelotti if Real concede both La Liga and the CL to Barca but it's unlikely Klopp goes to Spain. Liverpool are a very likely candidate in my opinion but there's also the option of waiting a year and then stepping in for Wenger.
So....Rummenigge praises Klopp. I see where this may be going....
Guardiola is always going to extend his contract at Bayern.
Klopp wont join Bayern.
There's more chance of Barca appointing Mourinho as their manager than there is of Bayern appointing Klopp.
Helmut Markwort (A member of the board) says Klopp was a serious candidate to replace Heynckes and he could be a option in the future.
http://www.tz.de/sport/fc-bayern/ba...aet-lief-zwischen-klopp-fcbayern-4944983.html
http://www.tz.de/sport/fc-bayern/ba...aet-lief-zwischen-klopp-fcbayern-4944983.html
Why?
Somehow I doubt that. I think Markwort is confusing the situation in 2008 when we considered Klopp and then hired Klinsmann with the situation 2 years ago. Markwort is often confused. After all, we were in contact with Guardiola for more than a year at that point, he signed the contract in December and before that happened, it wasn't even clear if Heynckes wants to retire or not.
But I guess we need to add a bit of silly drama prior to the game against Dortmund on Tuesday.
cough Bayern cough
Real, Barca, Bayern are the top atm. Specially United can rise to that top in 2,3 years.
Dortmund isnt exactly poor. They have big money, specially in a cheaper market place like Germany. And Liverpool isnt a winners club of late.
Its history and being the man who brought Liverpool back to titles and constant CL which would attract him first of all.
He will take a new job in the summer imo. He lives and dies(a bit) with his player interaction. So its Germany or England.
Liverpool or City imo.
Can City count on Pep leaving this Bayern? No.
do I really need to explain that? Nobody knows what happens in 10 years, but in the near future its simply not going to happen. There has been too much conflict between both sides and Klopp has a completely different approach to the game.
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