Jurgen Klopp

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Tuchel is the perfect candidate. I'd love to see him at Dortmund. Schalke should have gotten him, huge mistake letting him go.

I'm genuinely sad Klopp's leaving Dortmund and I'm not even a Dortmund fan. It's been one of the best football stories. He's a great manager and I have a lot of respect for him. It's hurt Klopp how poor Dortmund have been this year. It's not easy to say I'm not the best person here, maybe someone else can do better. How many managers would just acknowledge this? Shows his love for Dortmund and his humility.

I think Ancelotti will go to City. Don't think Klopp would suit their style anyway, he'd require a major revamp. He'd be a good manager for Madrid but I don't think he could stand the constant nonsense there.

I don't think he'll be in England next year but the club he best suits at the moment is Liverpool. I'd hate to see him there but the style of play & players is a perfect fit.
 
endless_wheelies said:
I disagree, I think City will use the Klopp situation to say to Pep, commit to us now or we'll drop you and go for Klopp.

Pretty sure Pep would be more than happy to link up with his old Barca pals, particularly as he'll probably be under pressure given Bayern are probably going out of the Champions League.
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City giving ultimatums to top managers, come take our job or else! That's funny. I can imagine his response.
 
Van Gaal to retire at the end of this season and Kropp to take over. Remember where you read it first.
 
Utd7 said:
If he doesn't take a year off I could see him going to Liverpool and Rodgers going to City.
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Rams said:
Van Gaal to retire at the end of this season and Kropp to take over. Remember where you read it first.
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What, in the name of Jumping Jehoshaphat, are you talking about!?

How do you come to these two brilliant conclusions? Show your workings, please.
 
JUPITER said:
What, in the name of Jumping Jehoshaphat, are you talking about!?

How do you come to these two brilliant conclusions? Show your workings, please.
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I think Liverpool offers more of what he looks for in a club than City. Although it would be harsh, Liverpool could justify sacking Rodgers if they miss top 4 and if they feel Klopp is an upgrade. It's all speculation at this point anyway, for all we know Viera could take over for Pelligrini instead of Klopp.
 
Castia said:
Not sure about that, I have a sneaky feeling Vieira is in the frame, in fact I've got money on it.
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Would love that. Klopp could be their answer to FFP, while Ancelotti is the best at getting OAPs to perform at the highest level.

Bojan11 said:
Napoli would be a good shout, but not a big step up from Dortmund.
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And FSW back to Liverpool? No, make that City, Brenton there is fun to watch and City having their manager constantly singing Pool's praises would be as well. Also makes it twice the heartbreak for the scousers when we win the league next season :devil:
 
Does anyone know, from what he said in the press conference, what he, himself, cites as his reason for leaving Dortmund? I've not watched the presser, but all I've heard are other people's understanding of why he left, and nothing from Klopp about his reason for going.
 
The Times is saying that Vieira is a serious contender to replace Pellegrini in the summer. Maybe City aren't looking at Klopp for real.
 
Difficult to see where he would end up. The sugar daddy clubs looks very likely to be interested in this, PSG and Real if they don't win the league and/or go to the semi finals at a minimum. City are clear contenders but I can't see why Klopp would want to go to them? Their key players are getting old with Silva, Toure and a large amount of their first eleven as well with Zabaleta, Kolarov, Navas, Fernandinho, Demichelis, Kompany and Dzeko all pushing 30.

Seems like a very difficult job for them to make that massive rebuild that they need. I doubt they can execute it very well with FFP in mind. For City it makes all the sense in the world to bring in someone who can adhere to the homegrown criteria as well as building a great team on a budget, but for Klopp it looks terrible.

So I see him going to Madrid/PSG who has good players at their disposal for his system and if they don't win the league/CL they will very likely want to kick their managers.

United for me are a bit of an underdog but I can see that happening as well. LVG came to United as a sort of interim manager who was supposed to build a great foundation for the next manager. We have players who are suited for Klopp as well even if it would be sad to see LVG leave.

Ideally LVG won't leave next year as they've said and then I'd of course want him to stay longer.
 
Mali_Zeus said:
Why don't you like it?
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Because supporting United is a huge part of my identity and I could never imagine splitting that loyalty. I'm unapologetically old school as far as the culture of football is concerned. What happens if we play Dortmund or Porto next season?

I love United. Hate a handful of other teams. Feel nothing towards everyone else in world football.
 
Dante said:
Because supporting United is a huge part of my identity and I could never imagine splitting that loyalty. I'm unapologetically old school as far as the culture of football is concerned. What happens if we play Dortmund or Porto next season?

I love United. Hate a handful of other teams. Feel nothing towards everyone else in world football.
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So that's your opinion but you hate when people love more than one club? That's strange.

If we play Porto or Dortmund we'll cheer on our United of course? What elpse could happen?
 
Mali_Zeus said:
So that's your opinion but you hate when people love more than one club? That's strange.

If we play Porto or Dortmund we'll cheer on our United of course? What elpse could happen?
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Who would you support if we play Roma next year?
 
Mali_Zeus said:
So that's your opinion but you hate when people love more than one club? That's strange.

If we play Porto or Dortmund we'll cheer on our United of course? What elpse could happen?
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It's strange that you would have any kind of admiration for another club that we might be competing with in the near future.

I'm not playing the 'Mancunian Card' to make myself seem superior - I don't consider that to be the case at all. But maybe because I'm from the city, I see supporting my team as much more partisan than the Dortmund lovers on here. I associate football with more than just the XI on the pitch. United are my local team.

That's my theory as to why I find it so irksome. I might be wrong, though.
 
izec said:
Who would you support if we play Roma next year?
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That's a tough one. :)
I would be sad for the team beaten and happy for the other.

But its the case of people liking Dortmund not being fan of them. It seems so.
There are 3 clubs of which I'm a fan of, United, Roma and Dinamo.

There are some clubs I like seeing doing good, nothing more, Dormund being one of them.
 
Dante said:
It's strange that you would have any kind of admiration for another club that we might be competing with in the near future.

I'm not playing the 'Mancunian Card' to make myself seem superior - I don't consider that to be the case at all. But maybe because I'm from the city, I see supporting my team as much more partisan than the Dortmund lovers on here. I associate football with more than just the XI on the pitch. United are my local team.

That's my theory as to why I find it so irksome. I might be wrong, though.
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I've not really followed this debate, are you suggesting it's somehow wrong to have any sort of admiration for any other club in Europe?
 
Rado_N said:
I've not really followed this debate, are you suggesting it's somehow wrong to have any sort of admiration for any other club in Europe?
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The level of love for Dortmund and Klopp is ridiculous on this forum. Admiration was probably the wrong word.
 
Dante said:
It's strange that you would have any kind of admiration for another club that we might be competing with in the near future.

I'm not playing the 'Mancunian Card' to make myself seem superior - I don't consider that to be the case at all. But maybe because I'm from the city, I see supporting my team as much more partisan than the Dortmund lovers on here. I associate football with more than just the XI on the pitch. United are my local team.
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That's my theory as to why I find it so irksome. I might be wrong, though.
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This isn't necessarily that 'old school' an attitude though is it? Consider Manchester fans watching City or Utd depending on who was at home. Or Charlton's account of watching nearby games in his youth when it might often be to see a great player.
 
Feedingseagulls said:
This isn't necessarily that 'old school' an attitude though is it? Consider Manchester fans watching City or Utd depending on who was at home. Or Charlton's account of watching nearby games in his youth when it might often be to see a great player.
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It's older than the new school.
 
His options are pretty good in fairness
Bayern - only if pep goes (either sabatical, city, barca or spanish national team) probably wont happen but he would surely be no1 option for them
German National Team - If lowe decides to cash in on being a world cup winner there would be plenty of suitors but only one clear favourite to replace him and that is of course kloppo
PSG - If they dont win the league Blanc may be vulnerable and if money was his main objective then they could be a good option for Klopp
City - supposedly they are not interested but lets see how interested they become if Pep wont go there
Arsenal - Wenger wont get sacked but its not impossible he could decide to move into a director of football role
United - very unlikely unless we blow up and fail to qualify for the CL
Real Madrid - they would be crazy to sack anchelotti but they have shown in the past that they can be crazy especially if real loose the champions league and the league to barca
Barcelona - conversely if barca fail to win the league or champions league and laporte becomes president then there is a decent chance he may look to bring in a new manager as part of his new presidency - whilst he would probably try and get pep back the next most plausable option would seem to be kloppo

So although I'm not sure where he will end up I am sure that at least one of those options will be open in the summer and quite possibly more leaving him in a very strong position to wait for offers to come to him
 
sun_tzu said:
His options are pretty good in fairness
Bayern - only if pep goes (either sabatical, city, barca or spanish national team) probably wont happen but he would surely be no1 option for them
German National Team - If lowe decides to cash in on being a world cup winner there would be plenty of suitors but only one clear favourite to replace him and that is of course kloppo
PSG - If they dont win the league Blanc may be vulnerable and if money was his main objective then they could be a good option for Klopp
City - supposedly they are not interested but lets see how interested they become if Pep wont go there
Arsenal - Wenger wont get sacked but its not impossible he could decide to move into a director of football role
United - very unlikely unless we blow up and fail to qualify for the CL
Real Madrid - they would be crazy to sack anchelotti but they have shown in the past that they can be crazy especially if real loose the champions league and the league to barca
Barcelona - conversely if barca fail to win the league or champions league and laporte becomes president then there is a decent chance he may look to bring in a new manager as part of his new presidency - whilst he would probably try and get pep back the next most plausable option would seem to be kloppo

So although I'm not sure where he will end up I am sure that at least one of those options will be open in the summer and quite possibly more leaving him in a very strong position to wait for offers to come to him
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Im not so sure hey, I dont think there are as many as you think. I just dont see him at Bayern having been at Dortmund. The national team seems plausible but not anytime soon. Ligue 1 is an unstimulating option and I rate it below the Bundesliga. If you take things at face value, Arsenal and City are not interested. United is not happening. Real and Barca are interesting, there's no job security at Real though and Enrique has Barca going strong now. Klopp is a good manager but I just dont think he has chosen a good time to jump ship. He comes as very much an individual, the type of guy who need a specific environment to thrive. He might have to wait a bit longer to get what he truly wants.
 
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Mitchell Nicholas said:
A bit like @Dante , i found the Klopp/Dortmund love on here a bit extreme.
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Each to their own. I'd rather our fans show the class to praise/admire/admit if another team or manager is doing well than just live in their own world and blame the parked bus and pitch, but never praise the opposition or other teams/managers.
 
united_99 said:
Each to their own. I'd rather our fans show the class to praise/admire/admit if another team or manager is doing well than just live in their own world and blame the parked bus and pitch, but never praise the opposition or other teams/managers.
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I have no problem saying he did a great job and all, if for whatever reason Wneger left Arsenal at the end of the season, I think he'd be perfect for Arsenal. I found the adoration and the wankfest about him a bit much that's all.
 
Mitchell Nicholas said:
I have no problem saying he did a great job and all, if for whatever reason Wneger left Arsenal at the end of the season, I think he'd be perfect for Arsenal. I found the adoration and the wankfest about him a bit much that's all.
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Well it's not just him. There is also an obsession with Mourinho, Ronaldo (at least he played for us), Messi and especially Barca 2009-2011 whereas fans in Germany for example are neither obsessed with that Barca team, nor with Mourinho, Ronaldo or Messi. It's all fine and if someone watches other teams often enough to like / dislike them then why not? Opinions and obsessions are all part of football.
 
Dante said:
It's strange that you would have any kind of admiration for another club that we might be competing with in the near future.

I'm not playing the 'Mancunian Card' to make myself seem superior - I don't consider that to be the case at all. But maybe because I'm from the city, I see supporting my team as much more partisan than the Dortmund lovers on here. I associate football with more than just the XI on the pitch. United are my local team.

That's my theory as to why I find it so irksome. I might be wrong, though.
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:lol: please stop with this.

How can you not admire/pretend not to admire other teams/ clubs is the real question. And we could face any team in Europe over the next 100 years. Being fake and forcing myself to not admire any of them would be plain weird.

Obviously I don't disagree with your point of being a fan of one team only.
 
Mitchell Nicholas said:
A bit like @Dante , i found the Klopp/Dortmund love on here a bit extreme.
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See I have no issue with disliking that. But there's a difference between not liking an extreme love in for another club/team and saying one should not admire any other team or club ever.
 
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