Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

Klopper76 said:
Not a surprise. He'd said before that he'd be thinking about a break or change in 2021/2022.
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If he's leaving in 2 years, FSG should have really backed him to the hilt. I don't feel there's going to a better chance in beating City to the title than now under Klopp.
 
CognitiveNeuro said:
If he's leaving in 2 years, FSG should have really backed him to the hilt. I don't feel there's going to a better chance in beating City to the title than now under Klopp.
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I actually think this is the worst time for us to be at our best. City and Pep have raised the bar to an insanely high level.
 
Klopper76 said:
I actually think this is the worst time for us to be at our best. City and Pep have raised the bar to an insanely high level.
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Very odd thing to say.

Liverpool finished 1 point behind City.

They're not going to get a better chance to win the title with United bound to get it right sooner than later, Chelsea without a transfer ban and Arsenal and Spurs improving.

It was just 1 point between them but they didn't sign anyone and sold some squad players.
 
Klopper76 said:
I actually think this is the worst time for us to be at our best. City and Pep have raised the bar to an insanely high level.
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I do agree with that. Any other season liverpool would have won the title last season. However, I still think you lot made a mistake by not strengthening this summer. This city side are here to stay and the only way to beat them for the title is to keep adding more quality. Klopp was hard done this summer.
 
CognitiveNeuro said:
Very odd thing to say.

Liverpool finished 1 point behind City.

They're not going to get a better chance to win the title with United bound to get it right sooner than later, Chelsea without a transfer ban and Arsenal and Spurs improving.

It was just 1 point between them but they didn't sign anyone and sold some squad players.
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We were so lucky to be that close to them though. In reality we were at least 10 points worse than they were last season. The match stats over the season back that up.
AshRK said:
I do agree with that. Any other season liverpool would have won the title last season. However, I still think you lot made a mistake by not strengthening this summer. This city side are here to stay and the only way to beat them for the title is to keep adding more quality. Klopp was hard done this summer.
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The only chance we have is if City implode somehow. Doesn't seem likely though.
 
Klopper76 said:
The only chance we have is if City implode somehow. Doesn't seem likely though.
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I know it has just been 2 games but it seems you lot have dropped a level or two. One thing you were really good last season is your defensive organisation was brilliant but so far in the 3 games that you have played, you look vulnerable. CIty may not hit 97 points again this season but they will get 90 points at least but I don't see you guys matching that.
 
AshRK said:
I do agree with that. Any other season liverpool would have won the title last season. However, I still think you lot made a mistake by not strengthening this summer. This city side are here to stay and the only way to beat them for the title is to keep adding more quality. Klopp was hard done this summer.
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They had no money. How were they supposed to strenghten, with IOUs?
 
giorno said:
They had no money. How were they supposed to strenghten, with IOUs?
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If you have no money after you win a CL then you surely are in trouble. Not saying they should have spent 100+M on new players but could have added one quality player in either defense or midfield.
 
Klopper76 said:
That's what Arsenal did.
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Arsenal spent upwards of £100m this summer

From Klopp's words it's clear liverpool could not afford big moves.

FFP is a thing that exist and as much as City and PSG can seemingly ignore it at will, that doesn't mean everyone can or should do the same...
 
AshRK said:
If you have no money after you win a CL then you surely are in trouble. Not saying they should have spent 100+M on new players but could have added one quality player in either defense or midfield.
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Quality players cost a lot of money. And winning the CL means paying out prizes for winning the CL. Usually that tends to be a hell of a lot of money. Liverpool spent a lot in the last few years and their current team is very expensive to keep together and getting expensive-r by the day
 
giorno said:
Arsenal spent upwards of £100m this summer

From Klopp's words it's clear liverpool could not afford big moves.

FFP is a thing that exist and as much as City and PSG can seemingly ignore it at will, that doesn't mean everyone can or should do the same...
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On paper they did but in all likelihood they're paying for Pepe over a number of years. The rest of their transfers were smaller or loan deals. You could tell they didn't have a huge budget based on how much they haggled over Tierney and Zaha.

As far as we're concerned, I don't think we can afford to go and splash loads of money every summer true, but I also think that Klopp felt there wasn't anyone available he really wanted/who wanted to play for Liverpool.

The latter is crucial when it comes to Klopp signing players imo. That's why we didn't try to re-sign Coutinho.
 
Klopper76 said:
On paper they did but in all likelihood they're paying for Pepe over a number of years.
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Payment structure isn't particularly relevant when it comes to budget

Now i had a look at your accounts for 2018 and i struggle to believe you didn't have money this summer. So yeah, more likely you decided there was nobody worth signing...
 
That’s just a way of leaving Liverpool without breaking scouse hearts. StevieG will be the next guy I reckon

Plopp will take a year out and go to Spain next I reckon
 
This won't get much love here obviously but great read.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-fc

I have to start with a slightly embarrassing story. Because sometimes I am afraid that the outside world looks at footballers and managers like we’re Gods or something. As a Christian, I believe in only one God, and I can assure you that God has nothing to do with football. The truth is that we all fail, constantly. And when I was a young manager I failed a lot.

This is one of those stories.

We have to go back to 2011. My Borussia Dortmund team were playing Bayern Munich. It was a huge match in the league. We hadn’t won in Munich in something like 20 years. I take a lot of inspiration from movies, so whenever I needed to motivate the boys I would always think of Rocky Balboa. In my opinion, they should show Rocky 1, 2, 3 and 4 in public schools all across the world. It should be like learning the alphabet. If you watch these movies and you don’t want to climb to the top of a mountain, then I think something is wrong with you.

So the night before we played Bayern, I gathered all my players at the hotel for our team talk. The boys were all sitting down. All the lights were off. I told them the truth of the situation: “The last time Dortmund won in Munich, most of you were still in your Pampers.

Then I started playing some scenes from Rocky IV on the video screen. The one with Ivan Drago. A classic, in my opinion.

Drago is running on the treadmill, and he’s hooked up to the big computer monitors and the scientists are studying him. Remember that? I told the boys, “You see? Bayern Munich is Ivan Drago. The best of everything! The best technology! The best machines! He’s unstoppable!”

Then you see Rocky training in Siberia in his little log cabin. He’s chopping down pine trees and carrying logs through the snow and running up to the top of the mountain.

And I told the boys, “You see? That’s us. We are Rocky. We are smaller, yes. But we have the passion! We have the heart of a champion! We can do the impossible!!!!!”

I was going on and on, and then at some point, I look out to all my boys to see their reaction. I was expecting them to be standing up on their chairs, ready to go run up a mountain in Siberia, going absolutely crazy.

But everyone is just sitting there, staring at me with dead eyes.

Completely blank.

Crickets, as you say.

They’re looking at me like, What in the world is this crazy man talking about?

So then I realised, Wait, when did Rocky IV come out, 1980-something? When were these boys born?

Finally, I said, “Wait a minute, boys. Please raise your hand if you know who is Rocky Balboa?”

Only two hands went up. Sebastian Kehl and Patrick Owomoyela.

Everyone else, “Nope, sorry, boss.”

My entire speech — nonsense! This is the most important match of the season. Maybe the most important match of some of the players’ lives. And the manager has been screaming about Soviet technology and Siberia for the last 10 minutes! Hahahaha! Can you believe this?

I had to start my whole speech over from scratch.

You see, this is the real story. This is what actually happens in life. We are human beings. Sometimes, we embarrass ourselves. That’s how it is. We think we’re giving the greatest speech in the history of football, and we’re actually talking complete nonsense. But we get up the next morning and we go again.

Do you know what is the strangest part of that story?

I honestly cannot be sure if we won or lost the match. I am pretty sure that I gave this speech in 2011 before we won 3–1, and that certainly makes for a much better story! But I can’t be 100% sure

This is one thing about football that people don’t always understand.

The results, you forget. You get them all mixed up.

But those boys, and that time in my life, and those little stories … I will never forget them.

I am honored to have won the FIFA award for best men’s coach last night, but I really don’t like to stand on a stage with a trophy all by myself. Everything I have accomplished in this game is only possible because of everyone around me. Not just my players, but my family and my sons and everyone who has been with me since the beginning, when I was a very, very average person.

Honestly, when I was 20 years old, if someone came from the future to tell me everything that was going to happen in my life, I would not have believed it. If Michael J. Fox himself had come flying in on his hoverboard to tell me what would happen, I would have said it was impossible.

When I was 20, I experienced the moment that completely changed my life. I was still a kid myself, but I had also just become a father. It was not perfect timing, let’s be honest. I was playing amateur football and going to university during the day. To pay for school, I was working in a warehouse where they stored movies for the cinema. And for the young people out there, we are not talking about DVDs. This was the late ’80s, when everything was still on film. The trucks would come at 6 a.m. to pick up the new movies, and we would load and unload those huge metal canisters. They were quite heavy, honestly. You would be praying that they weren’t showing something with four reels, like Ben-Hur or something. That was going to be a bad day for you.

I would sleep for five hours every night, go to the warehouse in the morning, and then go to class during the day. At night I would go to training, and then I’d come home and try to spend some time with my son. It was a very difficult time. But it taught me about real life.

I had to become a very serious person at a young age. All my friends would be calling me to go to the pub at night, and every bone in my body wanted to say, “Yes! Yes! I want to go!” But, of course, I couldn’t go, because I was not living just for myself anymore. Babies don’t care that you are tired and want to sleep until noon.

When you are worried about the future of another little person who you brought into the world, this is real worry. This is real difficulty. Whatever happens on a football pitch is nothing compared to this.

Sometimes people ask me why I am always smiling. Even after we lose a match, sometimes I’m still smiling. It’s because when my son was born, I realised that football is not life or death. We’re not saving lives. Football is not something that should spread misery and hatred. Football should be about inspiration and joy, especially for children.

I have seen what a little round ball can do for the lives of so many of my players. The personal journeys of players like Mo Salah, Sadio Mané, Roberto Firmino, and so many of my boys are absolutely incredible. The difficulties I faced as a young man in Germany were nothing compared to what they had to overcome. There were so many moments when they could’ve easily given up, but they refused to quit.

They’re not gods. They just simply never gave up on their dream.

I think 98% of football is about dealing with failure and still being able to smile and find joy in the game the next day.

I’ve been learning from my mistakes since the very beginning. I’ll never forget the first one. I had taken over the job in 2001 at Mainz, where I had been a player for 10 years. The problem was that all the boys were still my friends. Overnight, I was their boss. They were still calling me “Kloppo.”

When I had to announce the squad for the first match, I thought it was only right that I go and tell each player to his face.

Well, this was a very bad plan, because we had twin hotel rooms.

So you can imagine it. I get to the first room, and I sit the two players down on the bed, and I turn to one and say, “You are starting tomorrow.”

I turn to the other and say, “Unfortunately, you are not starting tomorrow.”

I realised how dumb my plan was when the second player looked me in the eyes and asked, “But … Kloppo … why?”

Most of the time, there is no answer. The only real answer is, “We can only start 11 players.”

Unfortunately, I had to do this eight more times — 18 players in nine twin rooms. Two guys sitting on the bed. “You’re starting, you’re not.”

Every time, “But … Kloppo … why?”

Hahahah! It was excruciating!

This was the first of many, many, times that I stepped in the s*** as a manager. What can you do? You just grab a tissue and clean it off and try to learn from it.

If you still don’t believe me, think about this: Even my greatest triumph as a manager was born from a disaster.

Losing 3–0 at Barcelona in the Champions League last season was the worst result imaginable. When we were preparing for the second leg, my team talk was very straightforward. There was no Rocky this time. Mostly, I talked about tactics. But I also told them the truth. I said, “We have to play without two of the best strikers in the world. The world outside is saying it is not possible. And let’s be honest, it’s probably impossible. But because it’s you? Because it’s you, we have a chance.”

I really believed that. It wasn’t about their technical ability as footballers. It was about who they were as human beings, and everything they had overcome in life.

The only thing that I added was, “If we fail, then let’s fail in the most beautiful way.”

Of course, it is easy for me to say those words. I am just the guy yelling from the touchline. It is much harder for the players to actually do it. But because of those boys, and because of the 54,000 people at Anfield, we did the impossible.

The beautiful thing about football is that you can’t do anything alone. Anything, believe me.

Unfortunately, the most incredible moment in the history of the Champions League … I didn’t actually see it. Maybe this is a good metaphor for the life of a football manager, I don’t know. But I completely missed Trent Alexander-Arnold’s moment of pure genius.

I saw the ball go out for a corner.

I saw Trent walking over to take it. I saw Shaqiri following him.

But then I turned my back because we were preparing to make a substitution. I was talking to my assistant, and … you know, I have goose bumps every time I think about it … I just heard the noise.

I turned to the pitch and I saw the ball flying into the goal.

I turned back to our bench and looked at Ben Woodburn, and he said, “What just happened?!”

And I said, “I have no idea!”

Anfield was going — boof — absolutely crazy. I could barely hear my assistant, and he was yelling, “So … do we still make the substitute?”

Hahahaha! I will never forget him saying that! That will always be with me.

Can you imagine? Eighteen years as a manager, millions of hours watching this game, and I missed the cheekiest thing that has ever happened on a football pitch. Since that night, I have probably watched the video of Divock’s goal 500,000 times. But in person, I only saw the ball hit the net.

When I got to my little boot room after the match, I didn’t even have a sip of beer. I didn’t need it. I sat there with a bottle of water in silence, just smiling. It was a feeling that I cannot describe in words. When I got back home, my family and friends were all staying over at our house, and everyone was in a big party mood. But I was so emotionally exhausted that I went up to bed by myself. My body and mind were completely empty.

I had the best sleep of my life.

The best moment was waking up the next morning and realizing, “It’s still true. It really happened.”

For me, football is the only thing more inspiring than the cinema. You wake up in the morning, and the magic was all real. You actually knocked down Drago. It really happened.

I have been thinking about this since June, when we took the Champions League trophy around the streets of Liverpool. I have no words that can describe the emotions of that day. We were riding in the bus, and every time we thought the parade had to be over — that there could not possibly be any more people in the city of Liverpool — we would turn a corner and the parade would go on. Absolutely unreal. If you could’ve put all the emotions, all the excitement, all the love in the air that day and bottled it up, the world would be a better place.

I have not been able to get the emotion of that day out of my head. Football has given me everything in my life. But I really want to do more to give back to the world. Easy for me to say, O.K. sure. But how do you actually make a difference?

Over the past year, I’ve been really inspired by seeing Juan Mata, Mats Hummels, Megan Rapinoe, and so many other footballers join the Common Goal movement. If you don’t know about the work they’re doing, it’s incredible. More than 120 players have pledged 1% of their earnings to empower football NGOs around the world. They’ve already helped support youth football programs in South Africa, Zimbabwe, Cambodia, India, Colombia, the U.K., Germany and many other countries.

This isn’t just something for the richest footballers in the world. An entire starting 11 from the Canadian women’s national team has joined the cause. Footballers have joined from Japan, Australia, Scotland, Kenya, Portugal, England, Ghana…. How can you not feel inspired by this? This is what football is all about.

I just want to be a part of this. So I’m pledging 1% of my yearly salary to Common Goal, and I hope that many, many more people in the football world will join me.

Let’s be honest, guys. We are extremely fortunate. It is our responsibility as privileged people to give something back to children all over the world who just need a chance in life.

We should not forget what it was like when we had real problems. This bubble we live in is not the real world. I am sorry, but anything that happens on a football pitch is not a real problem. There should be a bigger purpose to this game than revenue and trophies, no?

Just think what we could accomplish if we all came together and gave 1% of what we earn to make a positive difference in the world. Maybe I am naive. Maybe I am a crazy old dreamer.

But who is this game for?

We all know damn well that this game is for dreamers.
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Probably a deserved win for him last night as FIFA's Coach of the Year. Incredible points tally in the league and an excellent campaign to win the Champions League. Guardiola would have been a fair winner too, domestic treble is a phenomenal achievement, but I can see why a CL success can edge that considered alongside Liverpool's league performance which 9/10 wins you the title.
 
Guardiola should have won it when he got 100 points in the prem, really unlucky that it was a World Cup year and tbf I'd be in favor to separate club manager awards from national coaches awards because it really doesn't make sense that 8 games can win you a yearly award over someone who manages nearly to 10 times that amount
 
Dorian Gray said:
This won't get much love here obviously but great read.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-fc
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"I realised that football is not life or death. We’re not saving lives. Football is not something that should spread misery and hatred. Football should be about inspiration and joy, especially for children."

Sure, except:
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He is a great manager and I would love to have somebody like him at United, but save me the philosophy. He is as childish and single-minded as any winner in football is.
 
Raw said:
God dammit why does he have to be so likeable.
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In fairness everyone looks likable when you win the big trophy. If he had lost the CL and then y ou read something like this many would laugh at it. Having said that he is a top top coach and Liverpool have been extremely lucky to finally find their messiah.
 
IMO the best manager in world atm. Pep is amazing, but Klopp can transform a mediocre club into the best without unlimited money.
 
Shamana said:
IMO the best manager in world atm. Pep is amazing, but Klopp can transform a mediocre club into the best without unlimited money.
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Let’s see what happens if takes over at BM or RM.

He’s been given time to develop this team but I’ll reserve judgement on this’ greatest’ tag for a bit
 
Eric7C said:
"I realised that football is not life or death. We’re not saving lives. Football is not something that should spread misery and hatred. Football should be about inspiration and joy, especially for children."

Sure, except:
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He is a great manager and I would love to have somebody like him at United, but save me the philosophy. He is as childish and single-minded as any winner in football is.
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You should hear him on Brexit!!
 
Dorian Gray said:
This won't get much love here obviously but great read.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-fc
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Wow. Great read, thanks. I feel inspired just reading it; I can't imagine what it's like to actually play for him. Best manager in the world for me. Imagine Pep going to Dortmand instead of Bayern or Liverpool instead of City and doing what Klopp has done. Never happen. This is the type of manager we should have hired; instead we hired 2 dinosaurs and 2 underqualified novices at top level. Shame.
 
Inigo Montoya said:
Let’s see what happens if takes over at BM or RM.

He’s been given time to develop this team but I’ll reserve judgement on this’ greatest’ tag for a bit
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Never said he was the greatest just the best atm.
 
billybee99 said:
Wow. Great read, thanks. I feel inspired just reading it; I can't imagine what it's like to actually play for him. Best manager in the world for me. Imagine Pep going to Dortmand instead of Bayern or Liverpool instead of City and doing what Klopp has done. Never happen. This is the type of manager we should have hired; instead we hired 2 dinosaurs and 2 underqualified novices at top level. Shame.
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He would never have joined us. More pressure and a club which has no structure at the top. Why would he even choose us. Klopp was smart in choosing Liverpool. Less pressure and less expectation. It was a win-win situation for him. No doubt he is a top manager but the term best or greatest cannot be used this loosely.
 
AshRK said:
He would never have joined us. More pressure and a club which has no structure at the top. Why would he even choose us. Klopp was smart in choosing Liverpool. Less pressure and less expectation. It was a win-win situation for him. No doubt he is a top manager but the term best or greatest cannot be used this loosely.
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He would have. It would have been a smoother transition from SAF. He wanted a sabbatical and we didn’t arrogantly want to wait.

Could you have seen him buying Fellaini and Mata?
 
Inigo Montoya said:
He would have. It would have been a smoother transition from SAF. He wanted a sabbatical and we didn’t arrogantly want to wait.

Could you have seen him buying Fellaini and Mata?
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But didn't he decline the chance of coming here. I am not saying he would not have succesful, he would have but do you think our fans and media would have bought his passionate speeches if we went trophyless for 2 seasons in a row. I think it would have been daunting task for him to succeed Sir alex. A trophyless season in 2014 and finishing 4th would have been termed a disaster and Klopp would have been in an immense pressure to deliver.
 
I don't believe his stories after the one with him and Dortmund director getting drunk.
 
Dorian Gray said:
This won't get much love here obviously but great read.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-fc
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Good read and good on him on winning the award, he truly deserves it.

Some people criticize him for not having managed a club like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, etc. where there's more pressure to win stuff but I do believe it has more merit what he has achieved with Liverpool and formerly Borussia Dortmund, in fact I would love him to manage Real Madrid (as unlikely as it seems) but more importantly I do enjoy the type of football his teams display the most.

What Guardiola has done is also remarkable but his achievements are somewhat undermined because of all the resources available to him so it's seen more like an achievement on the whole institution and not on the man alone, but like I said in terms of football I prefer Klopp's style anyway.
 
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