Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

''I had to bring Moreno on and he hasn't played all season''

''my players were distracted by their terrible pre match singing''

''there were all these bubbles blowing across the pitch''

''the Anfield cat has been right off his food''
 
sugar_kane said:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/11/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-chelsea-sadio-mane-injuries

Now he's saying Chelsea have had the luck in terms of injuries, if this was Mourinho he'd be getting rinsed in the media and Twitter etc.
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Sorry but you can't deny that. Chelsea have lost a mere 83 first team players' match days compared to 215 for Liverpool (135 for United, 225 for Arsenal with Sunderland and Hull at the top with over 280 each). How much difference would that have made to Liverpool (or Arsenal or Sunderland or Hull's) season is a matter of conjecture, however having had Mane, Henderson, Lallana, Coutinho or Henderson available for many more match days surely wouldn't have meant less points. Of course that doesn't suit your rhetoric that he's deluded. Chelsea are currently sit 20th in the list of injuries in the PL, with just the one player injured.
 
Rafateria said:
Of course that doesn't suit your rhetoric that he's deluded
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You must admit that the comments are stacking up now.

- The wind
- The dry pitch
- The harping about our "offside" goal
- Southampton trying harder against Pool

As a comparison you didn't see him coming out with this shite when you were absolutely flying in 2016. If this is how he responds to a bit of trouble and adversary then next season with cl, league, domestic cups and all the other teams spending £150m could be interesting.

Jose would have had a few active threads on him on here with people cringing post all those comments I highlighted above. You guys just seem to suck it all up and brush it under the carpet, though.
 
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Klopp has come out with some absolutely fecking pathetic excuses this season.

The sort of stuff Liverpool fans have been slagging Jose off for years for.
 
SwansonsTache said:
You must admit that the comments are stacking up now.

- The wind
- The dry pitch
- The harping about our "offside" goal
- Southampton trying harder against Pool

As a comparison you didn't see him coming out with this shite when you were absolutely flying in 2016. If this is how he responds to a bit of trouble and adversary then next season with cl, league, domestic cups and all the other teams spending £150m could be interesting.

Jose would have had a few active threads on him on here post all those comments I highlighted above with people cringing. You guys just seem to suck it all up and brush it under the carpet, though.
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Yeah I don't like those comments one bit - but obviously I was referring to the 'injury' lists. Chelsea have been incredibly lucky for the past few seasons as far as injuries go - compare their record vs. that of Liverpool, Arsenal and United. There is none.

Jose - nobody here was brushing his comments under the carpet when he was manager at Chelsea. Go back and find the threads - if they haven't been deleted. How times change.

I actually though Southampton gave it a go against Arsenal. They were certainly far more open than at Anfield but that's to be expected at home, and Arsenal took full advantage, but Southampton have only themselves to blame as they had enough chances to have got something from that match.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
Klopp has come out with some absolutely fecking pathetic excuses this season.

The sort of stuff Liverpool fans have been slagging Jose off for years for.
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Liverpool fans love a good excuse.

"But Rafa never had any cash to spend la, he would have walked the league with a bigger transfer budget."

Etc
 
Sorry but you can't deny that. Chelsea have lost a mere 83 first team players' match days compared to 215 for Liverpool (135 for United, 225 for Arsenal with Sunderland and Hull at the top with over 280 each). How much difference would that have made to Liverpool (or Arsenal or Sunderland or Hull's) season is a matter of conjecture, however having had Mane, Henderson, Lallana, Coutinho or Henderson available for many more match days surely wouldn't have meant less points. Of course that doesn't suit your rhetoric that he's deluded. Chelsea are currently sit 20th in the list of injuries in the PL, with just the one player injured.
I think that is a fair comment. Because the squad is so thin any loss will be felt but in Liverpools case the effect is felt much more. Is that their own fault for not strengthening in the transfer window I think it is.
 
Rafateria said:
Sorry but you can't deny that. Chelsea have lost a mere 83 first team players' match days compared to 215 for Liverpool (135 for United, 225 for Arsenal with Sunderland and Hull at the top with over 280 each). How much difference would that have made to Liverpool (or Arsenal or Sunderland or Hull's) season is a matter of conjecture, however having had Mane, Henderson, Lallana, Coutinho or Henderson available for many more match days surely wouldn't have meant less points. Of course that doesn't suit your rhetoric that he's deluded. Chelsea are currently sit 20th in the list of injuries in the PL, with just the one player injured.
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It depends on who the players are. I think Liverpool have high number because Gomez and Ings are out of the season and both are not first choice players.
 
I don't see how it's not obvious that injuries and lack of activity in the winter transfer window were the two main factors behind all the performance issues.
Naturally Klopp's been told/knows those aren't valid complaints when it comes to media events.

Especially since clubs that had it easy this whole season (Chelsea, United etc.) only lost irrelevant players to injuries until Ibrahimovic got injured, meanwhile we've lost our entire attacking line-up, entire midfield and most of the defense at any given point in the season, only position we've had no damaging injuries in were the goalkeepers, since Karius' injury meant we're replacing shit with shit, nothing gained, nothing lost.

When people claim Klopp has no valid complaints or no reason to complain, they're just being dishonest, far more than he is too.
 
Lizard said:
Especially since clubs that had it easy this whole season (Chelsea, United etc.) only lost irrelevant players to injuries until Ibrahimovic got injured,
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Yes, because losing all our central defenders is irrelevant, losing Mata and Pogba meant nothing, Mkhitaryan starting his season so late because of injury and the amount of recovery time he needed was unimportant.

Stop acting like you're the only club beset by injuries and go to rawk if you want to spout off fake facts.
 
He's a gargantuan arse. At least Mourinho doesn't pretend to be nice, he is who he is. Klopp is equally spiteful and bitter but hides behind this mask of being a nice, humble, cool dude. Arsehole.
 
Stoke aren't trying hard enough here and the lack of wind in the stadium has suited Arsenal. Pitch looks like there's some moisture in it so I guess it evens out but Klopp won't have that.
 
SwansonsTache said:
You must admit that the comments are stacking up now.

- The wind
- The dry pitch
- The harping about our "offside" goal
- Southampton trying harder against Pool
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Also there's too many games (despite not playing in Europe. Maybe he was referring to German league being 34 games), then he brushed off the league cup after they were dumped out by Liverpool B saying that Cup should be stopped even though he played a full team, tried to win and dipped into his bag of excuses to cover up the loss.

He just has no self accountability. Type of guy to say look at me when things are going well and point a finger when they aren't going well.
 
I wonder if he is getting the sack if they don't qualify to the Champions League. They were 2nd after beating City on december, 31. Now they run the risk of finishing 5th.
 
Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 said:
I wonder if he is getting the sack if they don't qualify to the Champions League. They were 2nd after beating City on december, 31. Now they run the risk of finishing 5th.
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No chance in hell, they won't attract anyone better, and besides he has already secured that weird messiah type following that only Liverpool managers can get.

He is playing a PR blinder towards the Liverpool fans with his Beatles shirts and required delusion and "passion", they genuinely love him.
 
He won't lose his job, Liverpool are clearly improving but have the problem of five other top clubs to contend with in the league at the moment.

I can honestly see any of the top six missing out on Champions league over the next five years, there is nothing in it.
 
Lizard said:
I don't see how it's not obvious that injuries and lack of activity in the winter transfer window were the two main factors behind all the performance issues.
Naturally Klopp's been told/knows those aren't valid complaints when it comes to media events.

Especially since clubs that had it easy this whole season (Chelsea, United etc.) only lost irrelevant players to injuries until Ibrahimovic got injured, meanwhile we've lost our entire attacking line-up, entire midfield and most of the defense at any given point in the season, only position we've had no damaging injuries in were the goalkeepers, since Karius' injury meant we're replacing shit with shit, nothing gained, nothing lost.

When people claim Klopp has no valid complaints or no reason to complain, they're just being dishonest, far more than he is too.
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In most cases injuries are down to a lot more than luck, so it feels like an empty excuse. Injuries (and tiredness) are undoubtedly a significant factor in Liverpool falling off a cliff in 2nd half of the season but the idea that Klopp has no influence over that is a bit silly.
 
SwansonsTache said:
No chance in hell, they won't attract anyone better, and besides he has already secured that weird messiah type following that only Liverpool managers can get.

He is playing a PR blinder towards the Liverpool fans with his Beatles shirts and required delusion and "passion", they genuinely love him.
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Would still be a big blow to them after a season that promised so well untill january though.
 
Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 said:
Would still be a big blow to them after a season that promised so well untill january though.
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They can't attract a bigger name, besides all the top managers are currently in a job.

FSG and the board are probably well happy with a manager that has a reputation for making players perform above their station, it limits their expenditure and is ideal for a club that no longer can attract the top tier players with either pull or money.
 
SwansonsTache said:
They can't attract a bigger name, besides all the top managers are currently in a job.

FSG and the board are probably well happy with a manager that has a reputation for making players perform above their station, it limits their expenditure and is ideal for a club that no longer can attract the top tier players with either pull or money.
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Fair point. They should just focus on trying to win some domestic cups.
 
Well if the pitch will be good, no wind and if United don't score an offside goal they could really win.
 
Brwned said:
In most cases injuries are down to a lot more than luck, so it feels like an empty excuse. Injuries (and tiredness) are undoubtedly a significant factor in Liverpool falling off a cliff in 2nd half of the season but the idea that Klopp has no influence over that is a bit silly.
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Exactly.
The best signing any team could make in the summer is Chelsea's medical staff for £30m. Would pay for itself many many times over.......
(Edit) mourinho's chelsea had hardly any injuries too. Probably not a coincidence.
 
Alabaster Codify7 said:
He's a gargantuan arse. At least Mourinho doesn't pretend to be nice, he is who he is. Klopp is equally spiteful and bitter but hides behind this mask of being a nice, humble, cool dude. Arsehole.
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I don't think he's quite the thundercnut you make him out to be but he's definitely not as genuine as Liverpool fans would have you believe. The celebrations and antics on the touchline always seem forced while Conte in comparison actually looks like he's genuinely living every moment with the team and gets emotional without putting on an act.
 
Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 said:
I wonder if he is getting the sack if they don't qualify to the Champions League. They were 2nd after beating City on december, 31. Now they run the risk of finishing 5th.
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Are you serious? He's the best manager we can have and we wouldn't attract anyone close to him.
 
Rafateria said:
Sorry but you can't deny that. Chelsea have lost a mere 83 first team players' match days compared to 215 for Liverpool (135 for United, 225 for Arsenal with Sunderland and Hull at the top with over 280 each). How much difference would that have made to Liverpool (or Arsenal or Sunderland or Hull's) season is a matter of conjecture, however having had Mane, Henderson, Lallana, Coutinho or Henderson available for many more match days surely wouldn't have meant less points. Of course that doesn't suit your rhetoric that he's deluded. Chelsea are currently sit 20th in the list of injuries in the PL, with just the one player injured.
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I would wager that if you analysed that though, the days stat means very little. Every team gets injuries and it's about managing the squad - Conte's job has been easy because of minimum games to prep for. It's no surprise then that the team with the most games (Man Utd) has so many match day related injures (Zlatan, Shaw, Young etc) because if you play more games you logically have a slightly higher chance of injury but is LPool's not proof of Klopp's playing style/training being right on the edge?

All PL managers are deluded to point - or at least have to present an over biased view to please most fans. IMO The growing issue rival fans have with Klopp is that he seemed quite refreshingly honest when he arrived but has now just fallen into the trap of endless excuses and random sweeping statements. You expect excuses from Wenger or blunt views from Mou given they are old sourpusses but Klopp seemed different.
 
I reckon he's more likely to walk than get sacked - moaning about how it wasn't like the brochure when FSG say he can only have the Countinho --> Barca money to spend & nothing else.

Their loony support love him cos he's funny, blames Utd much of the time & whines a lot generally.

They'll do it today, Deirdre will have the glasses deliberately falling off at some point too.
 
If buying the Hull defence is Klopp's masterstroke then give him an extension.

They look like getting relegated.

Thought he'd be chasing proven European quality/experience. Maybe the money isn't there for him after all?
 
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