Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

Also they love & adore Klopp, Klopp has passionately & emotionally engaged their core support, unlike say, poor old Woyston ''we give all our Managers unswerving support '' Hodgepodgeosaurus. Not under any gegen-pressure at all I wouldn't have thought, unless Fenway are a bit mad or he asks them for transfer ££££ & stuff.

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ObelOitment Fungentula said:
Erm, we're all guests here, unless I'm mistaken and you own a share of the site.

Unlike you, I really couldn't care what an oppo fan (or even most Liverpool fans) thinks of my clubs manager, I've never pretended he's flawless, it's just the risible double-standards that got me responding. I've said what I wanted to, now I'll leave you to let everyone know what a great and loyal Red you are.
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Hahaha what a fecking tosser. You are on a Man Utd forum and we are the residents and part of this club. You are not a Man United fan so that makes you a guest. Your club manager is the most pretentious, detestable and annoying douchebag.
 
njred said:
Who cares what anyone thinks of Klopp. We love him.The media loves him.
Deep down the majority of mancs would love to have him. With the talent united have and his brand of rampaging football,united would be contending right now and the mancs would be loving his antics.
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:lol: no fecking way. He's embarrassing and only suited to small time/underdog clubs.
 
"Roberto has obviously felt the intensity of last few weeks. It's not a major issue."

Poor Pool, rags at FA have really fecked them over with this fixture congestion.
 
Samid said:
"Roberto has obviously felt the intensity of last few weeks. It's not a major issue."

Poor Pool, rags at FA have really fecked them over with this fixture congestion.
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Oh, poor Liverpool having to play 5 games in 1 month. I am currently playing the worlds smallest violin on their behalf.
 
Holy feck! I really was fearing the worst when that Stoke goal went in!
 
69 mins Stoke 1 - Liverpool 1

"Liverpool have been knocking on the Stoke door for some time and they finally get their reward as Phillipe Coutinho drills home through a sea of legs after a long ball forward that Stoke's defence failed to deal with"

72 mins Stoke 1 - Liverpool 2

"What a goal. Brilliant technique by Roberto Firmino as he lobs Lee Grant from distance after Georginio Winjaldum's long ball forward"

Mein gott Jurgen. I thought you said nein long balls! Well I counted two in three minutes today...
 
Stoke is nearly always three points specially when they've got nothing to play for. They're almost like Everton for us. But no way was I going to say that before the match!!

Without Coutinho and Firmino I was praying for a draw, but when they came on... Well the crowd were on the pitch... :D

Really, really screws with Arsenal heads who can't even afford a draw against Fat Sam now. YNeverWA.
 
Kraftwerker said:
The last few pages are good reading. Shows Liverpool fans have largely learnt nothing from the regimes of Rodgers, Dalglish, Rafa etc.

So much tub-thumping over a routine victory at the weekend. Prematurely thinking it's done and dusted. Only to of course follow it up with a total shit-show. Could be another painful end to the season. The cave dwellers are (and will be) nowhere to be seen.
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Have we learnt anything yet, a few days later? Looks like your tub thumping post looks silly now.
 
Dumbstar said:
Have we learnt anything yet, a few days later? Looks like your tub thumping post looks silly now.
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Clearly not.

Didn't you find the deification posts concerning Klopp a little cringe given another failed season silverware wise, and doing your best to chuck away top 4 despite it being your only concern for pretty much the entire season.

Was that newb account your 2nd account for taking out impotent rage?
 
Kraftwerker said:
Clearly not.

Didn't you find the deification posts concerning Klopp a little cringe given another failed season silverware wise, and doing your best to chuck away top 4 despite it being your only concern for pretty much the entire season.

Was that newb account your 2nd account for taking out impotent rage?
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I don't need a newbie account, been here long enough to say what I need to on this one thank. There's very little deification of Klopp here and in most places other than by Utd fans. Quite a few of us, myself included, have questioned Klopp's failings and whether it will impact us long term. At the moment he's doing enough to build a base. Whether that falls apart in the summer by him not buying well remains to be seen.

Finishing in CL will open the door to players that would otherwise not even piss on us if we were on fire. That will give Klopp even less excuse if he does not reinforce suitably, and numerically.
 
Klopp's impact has been really impressive. He's doing it in his own way, not been too dependent on the chequebook but has bought well in the main. Top 4 would be part of this rebuilding process.

The highs of the autumn got the excitement going a bit too much, but since the dodgy January it's been very solid. Yesterday was important and gives the chasing pack work to do. Plus everybody, except Liverpool, are playing each other so loads of dropped points will be happening. It's looking optimistic for Klopp's team.
 
Samid said:
"Roberto has obviously felt the intensity of last few weeks. It's not a major issue."
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On reflection, giving Firmino 45 minutes off was a wonder stroke. Comes on, plays very well, scores a worldy, wins the game, 3 points, job done.

8 days until the next match. Solid management.
 
PickledRed said:
Klopp's impact has been really impressive. He's doing it in his own way, not been too dependent on the chequebook but has bought well in the main. Top 4 would be part of this rebuilding process.

The highs of the autumn got the excitement going a bit too much, but since the dodgy January it's been very solid. Yesterday was important and gives the chasing pack work to do. Plus everybody, except Liverpool, are playing each other so loads of dropped points will be happening. It's looking optimistic for Klopp's team.
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He's coming up for 2 years at the club. You'd expect he'd be making an impact really otherwise you'd be moving him on.

If he fails to win something next year again then do you rethink this?

He's has a mixed season and the results against the big teams have glossed over it somewhat. The Christmas and New Year periods were some of the worst the club has seen weren't they?

The transfer window will be interesting. His signings have been hit and miss with the likes of Klavan and Karius mixed with Mane who has been a star. Wijnaldum and Matip about par.
 
TheReligion said:
He's coming up for 2 years at the club. You'd expect he'd be making an impact really otherwise you'd be moving him on.

If he fails to win something next year again then do you rethink this?

He's has a mixed season and the results against the big teams have glossed over it somewhat. The Christmas and New Year periods were some of the worst the club has seen weren't they?

The transfer window will be interesting. His signings have been hit and miss with the likes of Klavan and Karius mixed with Mane who has been a star. Wijnaldum and Matip about par.
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Klopp has had just one more transfer window here than Jose or Pep at their new clubs. Minus the money. That has left us short at key moments and during key injuries which is on Klopp alone, ie Jan/Feb.

Rather than win something if he fails to address the squad situation this summer, making excuses value is not available, etc, and we go into Leicester free fall mode then yes it will be on him.
 
Dumbstar said:
Klopp has had just one more transfer window here than Jose or Pep at their new clubs. Minus the money. That has left us short at key moments and during key injuries which is on Klopp alone, ie Jan/Feb.

Rather than win something if he fails to address the squad situation this summer, making excuses value is not available, etc, and we go into Leicester free fall mode then yes it will be on him.
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You say 'just one more window' but that's quite a big deal isn't it?

I'm expecting Jose and Pep to improve again in the summer as it's another opportunity to really make the squad your own. Plus both arrived during a major international tournament which is far from ideal.

I think Klopp has been average to good so far. That's not to say he won't achieve something but I do think the summer is massive for him and the club as they simply have to get it right.
 
TheReligion said:
He's coming up for 2 years at the club. You'd expect he'd be making an impact really otherwise you'd be moving him on.

If he fails to win something next year again then do you rethink this?

He's has a mixed season and the results against the big teams have glossed over it somewhat. The Christmas and New Year periods were some of the worst the club has seen weren't they?

The transfer window will be interesting. His signings have been hit and miss with the likes of Klavan and Karius mixed with Mane who has been a star. Wijnaldum and Matip about par.
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I think you always have to put transfers into context:
No one believed Klavan would be a top player, he signed to add some depth to the defense without spending a lot. I don' think you can compare such a signing to expensive players who are supposed to improve the first XI.
Matip has been a great improvement on a free transfer, how is that "about par"?
Karius looked like a great talent at Mainz and was signed for a relatively cheap fee. At the time of the transfer it looked like very good business, though of course right now it seems obviously that the step from Mainz to Liverpool was too big for him.
 
PickledRed said:
On reflection, giving Firmino 45 minutes off was a wonder stroke. Comes on, plays very well, scores a worldy, wins the game, 3 points, job done.

8 days until the next match. Solid management.
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Think you could also say he got out of jail. Adam poorly missed a sitter and Liverpool would have been dead and buried yesterday. More fortune than wonder in my opinion.
 
do.ob said:
I think you always have to put transfers into context:
No one believed Klavan would be a top player, he signed to add some depth to the defense without spending a lot. I don' think you can compare such a signing to expensive players who are supposed to improve the first XI.
Matip has been a great improvement on a free transfer, how is that "about par"?
Karius looked like a great talent at Mainz and was signed for a relatively cheap fee. At the time of the transfer it looked like very good business, though of course right now it seems obviously that the step from Mainz to Liverpool was too big for him.
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A great improvement? Their defence has been very poor so I'm not sure about that.

As a free he looks good value obviously but he's been hugely overrated on here in my opinion.
 
TheReligion said:
You say 'just one more window' but that's quite a big deal isn't it?

I'm expecting Jose and Pep to improve again in the summer as it's another opportunity to really make the squad your own. Plus both arrived during a major international tournament which is far from ideal.

I think Klopp has been average to good so far. That's not to say he won't achieve something but I do think the summer is massive for him and the club as they simply have to get it right.
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To a money rich club one window is massive. To second tier clubs like us we go through them like they never even came sometimes.

Conte took Jose's squad and won them the league. Jose took LvG's to 4 squad and alienated all the talent just like he did at the current league winners at Stamford Bridge. The troubles with Mourinho now seem to run deeper than even money. That's all IMO obviously. Pep I don't know about, we'll wait and see if he improves without the likes of Messi, Robben, Lewa, etc, at his disposal.
 
TheReligion said:
A great improvement? Their defence has been very poor so I'm not sure about that.

As a free he looks good value obviously but he's been hugely overrated on here in my opinion.
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So your way of juding signings is to check whether or not they fixed the defense or attack by themselves?
 
TheReligion said:
You say 'just one more window' but that's quite a big deal isn't it?

I'm expecting Jose and Pep to improve again in the summer as it's another opportunity to really make the squad your own. Plus both arrived during a major international tournament which is far from ideal.

I think Klopp has been average to good so far. That's not to say he won't achieve something but I do think the summer is massive for him and the club as they simply have to get it right.
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Yep as per usual it's a huge summer for us - it's like that every year tbh. We not only need quality but depth as well. That's a hard balance to strike because signing too many players rarely works. I would be happy with 4 first team players and 2 or 3 squad or young players.

In all fairness to klopp the extra window he had before pep and Jose was a winter window and he was still assessing the squad, not having had a pre-season.

I do think it's an important summer for all the top six for varying reasons. I expect huge amounts of money to be spent again by many teams.
 
Lawman said:
Think you could also say he got out of jail. Adam poorly missed a sitter and Liverpool would have been dead and buried yesterday. More fortune than wonder in my opinion.
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So when De Gea makes these saves (our game at Anfield ring a bell?) it's part of the game. But Adam can't find the target and it's pure luck. Adam was off side anyway. Where's the luck for us with the linesman's flag?

Luck evens itself out over 38 games. Your lot have been telling me this since 2002.
 
Lawman said:
Think you could also say he got out of jail. Adam poorly missed a sitter and Liverpool would have been dead and buried yesterday. More fortune than wonder in my opinion.
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Surely that's simply Mignolet doing his job for once? It's like games last season when De Gea was winning them with his saves. I don't consider that to be fortunate, just a keeper doing his job.
 
Lawman said:
Think you could also say he got out of jail. Adam poorly missed a sitter and Liverpool would have been dead and buried yesterday. More fortune than wonder in my opinion.
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All luck, eh? That's one way to spin it I guess. How about a strong penalty shout just prior to Stoke's goal. What about Lovren hitting the bar?

It's all a bit glib to point to a great save and call it "lucky". Do you come on here to declare Liverpool unfortunate when the oppo keeper holds out with a string of saves?
 
TheReligion said:
You say 'just one more window' but that's quite a big deal isn't it?

I'm expecting Jose and Pep to improve again in the summer as it's another opportunity to really make the squad your own. Plus both arrived during a major international tournament which is far from ideal.

I think Klopp has been average to good so far. That's not to say he won't achieve something but I do think the summer is massive for him and the club as they simply have to get it right.
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Fifth biggest pay roll in the league. That's better than average. Best attack in the league. Also, calling his transfers mixed is unfair given how difficult the market is. Wijnaldum and Mané have been excellent - not many wingers or midfielders been better this season: certainly not amongst new buys. Matip has been good. Klaven is a back up CB - hardly the defining signing of Klopp's tenure. Karius didn't work out, not yet.

It's not a finished project. He's doing a very good job.
 
PickledRed said:
All luck, eh? That's one way to spin it I guess. How about a strong penalty shout just prior to Stoke's goal. What about Lovren hitting the bar?

It's all a bit glib to point to a great save and call it "lucky". Do you come on here to declare Liverpool unfortunate when the oppo keeper holds out with a string of saves?
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For feck sake I have the Anfield mafia after me. I was mearly pointing out it was not a stroke of genius. Get back in the woodwork the lot of you.
 
sunama said:
Arsenal finished ahead of LFC last season.
Arsenal are ahead of LFC this season.
And you think LFC are a better team? :wenger:
By that reasoning, Stoke are the best team in the league? :lol:

Sorry man, I couldn't resist...we all have brain spasms from time to time.
By the end of the season though, we shall know just how had the better season, but IMO AFC are far better.
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Hey Baghdad Bob how is Arsenal doing this season compared to Liverpool?
 
Irrational. said:
Jurgen Klopp believes Liverpool title hopes scuppered by injuries

If my auntie had bollocks... :rolleyes:

Not content with complaining about the fixture congestion, he now has another ready-made excuse lined up for why they aren't further up the table. As if the rest of the teams in contention have been totally injury-free throughout.
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It's Scouseholm Syndrome, they are the team who has played the most and they are the only one with injuries and no other players went to the African Cup except Liverpool players.
 
Technically it's a fair statement, if Liverpool had every player firing at 100% for the whole season they would be challenging.

But it is obviously absolute nonsense.
 
Ah the old injuries excuse. Every team in every country in every league throughout the history of football has had to deal with injuries. Shut up and deal with it.
 
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