Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

Harsh banning on that guy. He was entertaining. And at least he's actually here.

Mind you, hallmarks of a returning banned poster given his vitriol directed my way when I've never encountered him before!
Look at you with your very own fan club. We'll call them Werkers.
 
I actually think he tried to switch it up and go defensive in the second half, but it backfired horribly.

I think our lack of squad options will be exposed in the next two games. Very hard to see us picking up more than three points.
We need to try a diamond or switch to a 4-2-3-1. The current formation doesnt work when the only winger in the squad is injured. Pulis and co are going to eat us alive if we dont change something.
 
We need to try a diamond or switch to a 4-2-3-1. The current formation doesnt work when the only winger in the squad is injured. Pulis and co are going to eat us alive if we dont change something.
I don't think it matters what we do if we can't defend. We always score goals but have struggled with the defence for five years now.

United have struggled to score goals for the last two seasons but still have two trophies to show. A strong defence is the foundation of success imo.
 
I don't think it matters what we do if we can't defend. We always score goals but have struggled with the defence for five years now.

United have struggled to score goals for the last two seasons but still have two trophies to show. A strong defence is the foundation of success imo.
Dont disagree, but for these remaining 8 games specifically, if we stay as we are, they're all going to be a repeat of January. We can have no qualms about the attack, just the depth. Defensively we concede the same type of goal over and over.
 
I don't think it matters what we do if we can't defend. We always score goals but have struggled with the defence for five years now.

United have struggled to score goals for the last two seasons but still have two trophies to show. A strong defence is the foundation of success imo.

Yeah, definitely the case at the top level, especially when it's defensive consistency that's a major problem for you. Very rarely do you see anyone conceding over a goal a game winning the title. Would be interesting to see the stats but I reckon over the past 30-40 years you'd have more cases of the best defensive team winning the title as opposed to the team with the most goals.
 
Dont disagree, but for these remaining 8 games specifically, if we stay as we are, they're all going to be a repeat of January. We can have no qualms about the attack, just the depth. Defensively we concede the same type of goal over and over.
It's horrible isn't it. Take the goal Everton scored at the weekend. I've seen numerous scenarios this season where we have or should have conceded a goal from identical situations. It's like time stops after the first ball is won/lost and no one is ready to deal with the second one.

I don't mind the odd mistake here and there but when it's the same thing over and over again...ugh.
 
Yeah, definitely the case at the top level, especially when it's defensive consistency that's a major problem for you. Very rarely do you see anyone conceding over a goal a game winning the title. Would be interesting to see the stats but I reckon over the past 30-40 years you'd have more cases of the best defensive team winning the title as opposed to the team with the most goals.
I think United won it in 12/13 with 40+ goals conceded, but that was a rarity and five goals came in that mental West Brom game when you'd already won it.

When you need to score three goals to win a game most weeks, you're going to struggle to get anywhere.
 
It's horrible isn't it. Take the goal Everton scored at the weekend. I've seen numerous scenarios this season where we have or should have conceded a goal from identical situations. It's like time stops after the first ball is won/lost and no one is ready to deal with the second one.

I don't mind the odd mistake here and there but when it's the same thing over and over again...ugh.
I read this post without clocking the "at the weekend" part, or checking your username. Thought you were a United fan on about last night.

Point was still valid. Sigh.....
 
Don't know why people having a go at tactics.

Liverpool were clearly tired after playing 2 games within 5 days and I blame the FA for putting them in this ridiculous position.
 
The last few pages are good reading. Shows Liverpool fans have largely learnt nothing from the regimes of Rodgers, Dalglish, Rafa etc.

So much tub-thumping over a routine victory at the weekend. Prematurely thinking it's done and dusted. Only to of course follow it up with a total shit-show. Could be another painful end to the season. The cave dwellers are (and will be) nowhere to be seen.

Cave dwellers? Coming from possibly the biggest anti Liverpool troll in the Caf? And shit show? lol......did you not watch your lads last night, a huffing and a puffing to score following an aberration in the 92nd minute by the opposition.....ok Headworker......I'll have you a bet here and now......in front of your mates.....anything you like. Liverpool will be ahead of Man Utd at the end of the season.

I'm callin you chickenshit right here, cos I can smell you weasling out already.

FFS :lol:

Love a good bite and meltdown.

Headworker you absolute bastard.
 
Hmm, let's see now.

Bournemouth - Draw
Stoke - Draw
WBA - Loss
Palace - Win
Watford - Win
Southampton - Draw
West Ham - Draw
Middlesbrough - Win

Edit: I can't decide on Bournemouth. Right now I feel we're due another stupid result so it's a draw, and Mane might be out too. But it could well be a win if you ask me on another day.

Maybe I should've placed a few bets...
 
Next season in Europe too, they are going need some players in. He won't let Moreno anywhere near the team & Klavan is average. They could play the soft Euro matches I suppose.

Almost needs an entire 2nd XI bringing in if there are going to be lots of extra games.

Them or Arsenal though - don't think we need to keep looking at it, really.

What Europe? :lol:

They are not finishing in the top four. Unless you mean Europa, which is also not guaranteed for them.
 
Liverpool fans boasting about their record against the top 6 are really only emphasising how bad they are against the teams in the bottom third.

I think we all acknowledge this and speak about . Look through the posts on here .
 
Klopp still failing to convince me that he's a great motivator, but has nothing in his locker - tactically - to be able to change a game. Similar to the Burnley home game insofar we fell behind to an early goal, struggled to impose ourselves, & went in at half time fortunate to be level. Upped the tempo in the 2nd half for a while & got our noses in front, but unlike Burnley we couldn't keep them out this time.

Something fundamentally wrong with a side that is basically set up so it can only perform if the opposition play a certain type of game. Something fundamentally wrong with a manager who seemingly can't overcome this.
 
What Europe? :lol:

They are not finishing in the top four. Unless you mean Europa, which is also not guaranteed for them.
You think they could drop down to 7th? They're 16 points ahead of WBA and only 7 games left. I mean, them finishing outside of the top 4 seems unlikely, dropping to 7. would be an epic meltdown.
 
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Liverpool are 16 points ahead of WBA with 21 points in play. They will play in europe next season
 
I actually think he tried to switch it up and go defensive in the second half, but it backfired horribly.

I think our lack of squad options will be exposed in the next two games. Very hard to see us picking up more than three points.

it's not necessarily that he doesn't try and switch it up, just that he doesn't seem to know how
 
it's not necessarily that he doesn't try and switch it up, just that he doesn't seem to know how
It was a weird sub last night, taking Coutinho off for Matip. If Coutinho was struggling then he could have brought on Alexander-Arnold, and then taken Klavan off (who was struggling all night) in a straight swap with Matip.

Going three at the back didn't suit us at all and let Bournemouth back into the game.
 
Genuinely interested in how LPool fans feel Klopp has done. Second season, had a few transfer windows, decent group of players on paper.

Top 4 will be super tight for 3rd and 4th but if LPool miss out where does that leave old Jurgen?
 
Genuinely interested in how LPool fans feel Klopp has done. Second season, had a few transfer windows, decent group of players on paper.

Top 4 will be super tight for 3rd and 4th but if LPool miss out where does that leave old Jurgen?

Well, we're better than we were last season. We've played some breathtaking football at times and our record against the top 7 signifies that we're a good team. Top scorers in the league, too - so there has been clear progression.

However, a paper thin squad and a season littered with injuries have hampered us big time. And our defending is erratic as feck.

Top four is realistic and would be a good season. If we don't make it from the position we're in, then it'll be very disappointing. Although injuries to Lallana, Mane and Henderson have left us looking threadbare once more going into the run in.
 
I was disappointed with the tactics on Wednesday. We had Bournemouth on the rack. Clop should know because the fans know that we are shit trying to defend a lead. He would have been better putting another forward on and keeping Bournemouth on the defensive. We are not good enough defensively to say to anyone "OK have the ball and we will defend" A back 5 against what is basically a poor side and we are suckered again. Score 5 goals in 2 games against Bournemouth and get 1 point. Ronnie Moran would have had his biggest stick out after that farce
 
I don't think we've won away from home in the league since December, and our next two league games are away from home.

Fully expecting the worst for the next two. West Brom especially will cause us all sorts of problems.
 
The only thing we have to hope for is that both teams take it a bit easier with nothing left to play for. There's not even any pride in showing up our defence as anyone can do that nowadays.
 
Problem is exacerbated by the fact every bottom half team knows the formula for getting points against us. I wouldnt be averse to abandoning the cavalier approach for something more cautious in the hopes of grinding out wins. In any case persisting with a 4-3-3 with no winger will only yield the same disastrous form we exhibited in january.
 
7 games to go against lesser opposition.... no Manè.

you know that bit on a rollercoaster, just before the drop after the climb... yeah... feels like that.
 
Problem is exacerbated by the fact every bottom half team knows the formula for getting points against us. I wouldnt be averse to abandoning the cavalier approach for something more cautious in the hopes of grinding out wins. In any case persisting with a 4-3-3 with no winger will only yield the same disastrous form we exhibited in january.
We could go for a diamond, Coutinho behind Origi and Sturridge and Lucas, Can and Wijnaldum behind them.
 
We could go for a diamond, Coutinho behind Origi and Sturridge and Lucas, Can and Wijnaldum behind them.
It's crossed my mind but i can't see Klopp leaving out Firmino. I was thinking maybe a 4-2-3-1 although the drawback is bringing Moreno in at LB allowing Milner to play wide right. In any case something has to give.

Edit. Klopps presser seems to indicate Coutinho will be missing through illness,, diamond might literally be the only viable option left.
 
It's crossed my mind but i can't see Klopp leaving out Firmino. I was thinking maybe a 4-2-3-1 although the drawback is bringing Moreno in at LB allowing Milner to play wide right. In any case something has to give.

Edit. Klopps presser seems to indicate Coutinho will be missing through illness,, diamond might literally be the only viable option left.
It's what I'd go for. Sturridge and Origi in front of Firmino unless he brings Alexander-Arnold in. Matip and Lovren at the back are a must.
 
It's what I'd go for. Sturridge and Origi in front of Firmino unless he brings Alexander-Arnold in. Matip and Lovren at the back are a must.
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It's literally the only real option. Our squad depth is appalling, it is a must win game.
 
If he can get top 4 with this squad, then fair play to him. A lot of managers would struggle.

He definitely needs to sign proper quality in the summer if they are to compete in any way next season.
 
Well, we're better than we were last season. We've played some breathtaking football at times and our record against the top 7 signifies that we're a good team. Top scorers in the league, too - so there has been clear progression.

However, a paper thin squad and a season littered with injuries have hampered us big time. And our defending is erratic as feck.

Top four is realistic and would be a good season. If we don't make it from the position we're in, then it'll be very disappointing. Although injuries to Lallana, Mane and Henderson have left us looking threadbare once more going into the run in.

Don't often agree with LPool fans but seems a fair summary. I would think you guys will make top 4 with City - I can't see us picking up enough points given we have to play a lot of top teams and Europa & Arsenal look too inconsistent.

Next season will be fascinating as you feel Klopp, Mou, Pep and Poch all need to win something & all need to get top 4. I would include Wenger but winning trophies isn't a requisite of the Arsenal job and I think he's off in the summer.