Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

dellboyy said:
The thing that amuses me is that you make it sound natural when you do it, and when we did it at your place, it's negative and pathetic.

The basic fact is, every team needs to do it sometimes, you were quite right to try yesterday, and we were right at your place or you'd have killed us!

Also, everyone needs more than one way of playing, the 'long ball' thing is a way around teams like yourselves, who's pressing game makes other options difficult. Who cares how you get a result, change tactics based on who you're playing!

In an ideal world everyone would play like Barcelona, but look at what's happening to city because of that, they don't appear to have another plan when it goes wrong.
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I agree you need to be able to adapt but we had 13 attempts yesterday 4 on target - that's quite a bit different from what you had at anfiield. Of course you also restricted us to little at anfield.

In the end two draws is probably fair enough for both games.
 
We're in the middle of a transition period. It might not be felt when we played the likes of West Brom but cracks do show when we're put under pressure against top opposition. Under such circumstances its only fair that we would make mistakes and when plan A doesn't work the plan B isn't exactly nice to watch.
 
Finn MacCool said:
I agree you need to be able to adapt but we had 13 attempts yesterday 4 on target - that's quite a bit different from what you had at anfiield. Of course you also restricted us to little at anfield.

In the end two draws is probably fair enough for both games.
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Yeah totally, you were really effective yesterday, you had your game plan spot on in the first half. But, forget about the recent bad results for you in the cup, i think as a team you're in a better state now than we were when we played you at your place. We were still figuring out the best way to play and the best fit for the players.

But yeah, a draw was probably fair. Even though we should have put another two of those clear cut chances away easily :)
 
These clowns have a really difficult schedule and cup games coming up which would test their threadbare depth. We won't play a top team until Chelsea in April. I'm looking forward to us making up lost ground soon.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
After 50 PL games managed at Liverpool -

Klopp - 92 points
Rodgers - 85 points

Klopp is 2 wins and a draw better than Rodgers over 50 games...

Pretty close!
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I am no Klopp lover, but Rodgers did have Suarez. The moment he left, LFC declined and Rodgers was sacked.
If Klopp had had Suarez on his team, who knows how many points he'd have collected.
 
Rafateria said:
So what you're saying is it doesn't count right ? Because if you hadn't have switched around your game plan then you'd have lost.
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No I'm just saying the tactics we applied at the end allowed you to finally create something. It was our own fault as we gave away the silly penalty so you had something to hold on to.

As it was from the off you didn't test DDG once and we cut you apart frequently.
 
This stat i quite like too :D



Oops, looks like i've been beaten to that stat... still worth posting again haha
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
They were similarly shit under Hodgson and Queen Kenny, Fergie couldn't beat them at Anfield until 2013.
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Yet loads of other teams could. Anyway, Fergie beat Liverpool plenty of times over the years. You're reading far too much into a tiny sample of games. Van Gaal didn't "out-tactic" anyone. He just happened to be in charge when Liverpool were in a particularly bad run of form.
 
TheReligion said:
You did it from the off and got lucky with a penalty.
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Lucky that the world's most expensive player dealt with defending a corner by spinning 180 degrees, shutting his eyes, putting his arms in the air and dabbing the ball all in a single movement. I agree, Pogba's brainfart is Liverpool's good fortune. I wouldn't argue with that for a second.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yet loads of other teams could. Anyway, Fergie beat Liverpool plenty of times over the years. You're reading far too much into a tiny sample of games. Van Gaal didn't "out-tactic" anyone. He just happened to be in charge when Liverpool were in a particularly bad run of form.
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Actually, while I am not in the business of defending van Gaal, his team's display at Anfield in March 2015 was unquestionably United's best showing at the ground in years - G Neville even said so. Liverpool were riding high, 13 league games unbeaten, catching United up in the league and looked favourites to beat them at Anfield. United, with Mata, really killed off Liverpool that day. van Gaal got it spot on. Rodgers never recovered.
 
PickledRed said:
Lucky that the world's most expensive player dealt with defending a corner by spinning 180 degrees, shutting his eyes, putting his arms in the air and dabbing the ball all in a single movement. I agree, Pogba's brainfart is Liverpool's good fortune. I wouldn't argue with that for a second.
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Not sure what you're implying other than your goal came by an anomalous piece of fortune...

You sound as though you're being sarcastic, or bitter, but to what ends I can't fathom.

Pogba's idiocy wasn't forced by some great piece of play, nor is it usual for any PL player to 'defend' in such a manner. He played like an idiot, but I would put that on him, not on LFC.

You were very fortunate to leave our glorious stadium with a point, consider yourself lucky, and pray that such anomalous favour finds you again next season when our manager and team will have had a year to settle, as yours has now.

Without Pogba's capitulation, you'd have lost that game. Indeed, in open play, you did lose it.
 
With everyone mentioning Anfield, did we forget that Liverpool's greatest threat was a 30 yard strike from Coutinho matched with an equally impressive save? Whilst Zlatan missed the best chance of the game? Then fast forward to yesterday and shock horror, the best chances of the game fell to United whilst Liverpool had pretty much nothing.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Not sure what you're implying other than your goal came by an anomalous piece of fortune...
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Like the offside in the build up to United's goal.

Rhyme Animal said:
You sound as though you're being sarcastic, or bitter, but to what ends I can't fathom.
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Yeah dead bitter, me.

Rhyme Animal said:
Pogba's idiocy wasn't forced by some great piece of play, nor is it usual for any PL player to 'defend' in such a manner. He played like an idiot, but I would put that on him, not on LFC.
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Yep, he may want to reconsider the personal hype machine and Twitter emoji stuff prior to a significant game. Went pretty flat pretty quickly.


Rhyme Animal said:
You were very fortunate to leave our glorious stadium with a point, consider yourself lucky, and pray that such anomalous favour finds you again next season when our manager and team will have had a year to settle, as yours has now.
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Nah, not really. Draw was a fair result.

Rhyme Animal said:
Without Pogba's capitulation, you'd have lost that game. Indeed, in open play, you did lose it.
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That's a belter. With that kind of 'reasoning' I could have I stumbled upon an Everton forum.
 
BigTimeCharlie said:
With everyone mentioning Anfield, did we forget that Liverpool's greatest threat was a 30 yard strike from Coutinho matched with an equally impressive save? Whilst Zlatan missed the best chance of the game? Then fast forward to yesterday and shock horror, the best chances of the game fell to United whilst Liverpool had pretty much nothing.
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Ergo, United rely too heavily on one goal scorer - the story of their season, no?
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
These clowns have a really difficult schedule and cup games coming up which would test their threadbare depth. We won't play a top team until Chelsea in April. I'm looking forward to us making up lost ground soon.
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I mean their threadbare depth just took a point at OT against the strongest side we have.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Not sure what you're implying other than your goal came by an anomalous piece of fortune...

You sound as though you're being sarcastic, or bitter, but to what ends I can't fathom.

Pogba's idiocy wasn't forced by some great piece of play, nor is it usual for any PL player to 'defend' in such a manner. He played like an idiot, but I would put that on him, not on LFC.

You were very fortunate to leave our glorious stadium with a point, consider yourself lucky, and pray that such anomalous favour finds you again next season when our manager and team will have had a year to settle, as yours has now.

Without Pogba's capitulation, you'd have lost that game. Indeed, in open play, you did lose it.
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Eh? Lol - newsflash, they didnt lose it.
 
PickledRed said:
Ergo, United rely too heavily on one goal scorer - the story of their season, no?
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Not sure what you mean by that. Zlatan scored the only goal from open play yesterday whilst Pogba and Mkhi fluffed their chances. You want your best chances to fall to your best goalscorer.

The only ergo from that is we created more chances when being defensive than Liverpool and we also created more chances when attacking then Liverpool.:)
 
So how is the resident scouse spinning the long ball statistic for the season then?

"It is okay when we do it, Klopp has told them to do it so that automatically makes it hip, trendsetting and innovative, as opposed to that cnut Mourinho."
 
SwansonsTache said:
So how is the resident scouse spinning the long ball statistic for the season then?

"It is okay when we do it, Klopp has told them to do it so that automatically makes it hip, trendsetting and innovative, as opposed to that cnut Mourinho."
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Couldn't give a shite about it to be honest.
 
I'm not sure that Pogba was idiotic - to me, it looked like he simply mistimed his jump.
 
Schmiznurf said:
Long balls played this season: Liverpool - 1417, United - 1346.

:lol:
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Had LVG been the manager he'd bring alongwith him a presentation to show that Pool play more long balls:wenger:
 
SwansonsTache said:
So how is the resident scouse spinning the long ball statistic for the season then?

"It is okay when we do it, Klopp has told them to do it so that automatically makes it hip, trendsetting and innovative, as opposed to that cnut Mourinho."
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You have a weird obsession with Klopp going on mate, it's not normal that you're getting so wound up because of him every single week.

Why do you even listen to his interviews? I couldn't give two shits what Mourinho has to say before or after games, and don't even listen to Klopp's interviews for that matter. Managers say daft things all the time and are hardly ever honest, they always spin the narrative in their favour and have a very biased view on the game. These quotes you're talking about happened right after an intense game which we were leading until the 84th minute, of course he's going to sound bitter after that. Who actually cares? If he delivers on the field, our manager can be the biggest cnut in the history of football for all I care.

EDIT: which he isn't imo, just to be clear. He's not better nor worse than Mourinho, Pochettino, Conte or Wenger when he has lost a game or things didn't go his way. The majority of the football world seems to like him though, you just like to nitpick on every little single thing he says, but by all means continue to do so if it pleases you that much.
 
RobinLFC said:
Why do you even listen to his interviews?
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Days with PL I have the PL channel on non-stop, they show all matches plus interviews before and after the match plus a studio broadcast where said comments and interviews are discussed.
 
Finn MacCool said:
I agree you need to be able to adapt but we had 13 attempts yesterday 4 on target - that's quite a bit different from what you had at anfiield. Of course you also restricted us to little at anfield.

In the end two draws is probably fair enough for both games.
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The difference is you had a lead and could play on the counter. The only chances you got were when we were chasing the game. Liverpool created nothing until Coutinho came on.
 
SteveJ said:
I'm not sure that Pogba was idiotic - to me, it looked like he simply mistimed his jump.
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Yeah he did. I said this during the game yesterday and got laughed at. But seriously it wasn't idiotic, he didn't miss the ball then use his hand, he didn't put his hands in a position they shouldn't have been in, he simply missed his header and the ball then struck his arm.
 
SwansonsTache said:
Days with PL I have the PL channel on non-stop, they show all matches plus interviews before and after the match plus a studio broadcast where said comments and interviews are discussed.
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Fair enough. I just think life would be easier if you stopped listening to guys you clearly can't stand, is all ;)
 
SteveJ said:
I'm not sure that Pogba was idiotic - to me, it looked like he simply mistimed his jump.
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I thought that he was desperately trying to recover having lost Lovren and lost his bearings.
 
BigTimeCharlie said:
Not sure what you mean by that. Zlatan scored the only goal from open play yesterday whilst Pogba and Mkhi fluffed their chances. You want your best chances to fall to your best goalscorer.

The only ergo from that is we created more chances when being defensive than Liverpool and we also created more chances when attacking then Liverpool.:)
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Chances didn't lead to goals, which is the reason united have drawn too many games this season. Not converting chances into goals and not all chances will fall to Zlatan...ergo, not enough goals across the team.
 
Jurgen the Gurner can feck off, even if what he said is blatant media manipulation to take the focus away from what was a fairly mediocre display from his side.

Aside from Valencia/Mikki/Herrera we were largely terrible and had by far the better chances, and they needed a penalty from a moment of complete madness from Pogba to score.

You've also got two pundits who think it's acceptable to say "I'm a Liverpool Fan, I'm biased" (Souness and Redknapp) saying similar things or paying back handed compliments to United, and being paid a hefty amount to do so. At least pretend to be professional for fecks sake.

What's more annoying is that the accepted view from the Anfield game is that we parked the bus which is complete nonsense to anyone who actually watched the game - even though we didn't have brilliant chances we attacked them from the first whistle until about the 65 minutes by which point we'd clearly lost a lot of energy.
 
dellboyy said:
This stat i quite like too :D



Oops, looks like i've been beaten to that stat... still worth posting again haha
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Think a copy of this should be sent to Klopp. Absolute attention seeking hypocrite.
 
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