Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch

I watched the Liverpool game and they are definitely in with a shout for the title. City obviously have more skillful players but Liverpool so much better and dangerous when they have the ball. After Chelsea's next game at Spuds, it could be down to 3 points. I feel dirty, but come on Chelsea.
 
Jurgen knows how to play the shit on a stick footy then?

2nd half was just completely terrible. City can't do it the Pep way with that team, that's for sure.
 
The self styled most exciting team in the PL were, well, pretty boring yesterday. Then again the whole game was a horrendously drab affair and City were ultimately underwhelming until the last 15 minutes.

On the plus side for Liverpool they are defending much better as a team.
 
Carra said today that after a run of 13 wins you'd expect to be 8-10points ahead. Chelsea won't win every game left this season and neither will we but one of us will have to take advantage of the other when they do drop points.
Losing Mane is a blow but Coutinho will be back for Utd so we still have a quality front three available.
Hopefully Henderson won't be out too long and we can have a successful 2nd half to the season.
Target at the start was top four and with how close together the top 6 are, that has to still be the aim but we are definitely involved in the title race and I hope that continues. Life under Kopp is anything but dull
 
TheReligion said:
The self styled most exciting team in the PL were, well, pretty boring yesterday. Then again the whole game was a horrendously drab affair and City were ultimately underwhelming until the last 15 minutes.

On the plus side for Liverpool they are defending much better as a team.
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Yesterday was probably the first time I've seen Klopp set us up like that. There was a bigger focus on preventing City's best players having an impact on the game.

Since he's come in Klopp's big game management has been excellent. Only one defeat so far to United last January.
 
TheReligion said:
The self styled most exciting team in the PL were, well, pretty boring yesterday. Then again the whole game was a horrendously drab affair and City were ultimately underwhelming until the last 15 minutes.

On the plus side for Liverpool they are defending much better as a team.
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There is a phrase for this.Its called plan B.
 
Klopper76 said:
Yesterday was probably the first time I've seen Klopp set us up like that. There was a bigger focus on preventing City's best players having an impact on the game.

Since he's come in Klopp's big game management has been excellent. Only one defeat so far to United last January.
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Funny how many (not you to be fair) were critical of Mourinho for adapting the same kind of approach at Anfield.. Now Klopp is doing it.
 
TheReligion said:
Funny how many (not you to be fair) were critical of Mourinho for adapting the same kind of approach at Anfield.. Now Klopp is doing it.
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Klopp won this game to be fair, we never won at Anfield, although I'd still say getting a point there wasn't an awful result.
 
Cheesy said:
Klopp won this game to be fair, we never won at Anfield, although I'd still say getting a point there wasn't an awful result.
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Yeah they were the home team both yesterday and against United. I'd like to think the onus was on them to win the game.

My point was Klopp showed a Plan B so to speak and got his unpretty result. Jose did very similar for us during a very rough patch and got a result of sorts and was hammered by the Liverpool contingent.
 
Liverpool need to make a signing I think, an extra quality player to come in to the midfield/attack, an extra dimension to keep the momentum going, and to lessen the blow of losing Mane.
 
BorisDeLeFora said:
Liverpool need to make a signing I think, an extra quality player to come in to the midfield/attack, an extra dimension to keep the momentum going, and to lessen the blow of losing Mane.
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Completely agree. Mane is the only natural wide player we have.
 
TheReligion said:
Funny how many (not you to be fair) were critical of Mourinho for adapting the same kind of approach at Anfield.. Now Klopp is doing it.
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Difference is that Klopp did it at home. Imagine the Dippers on here if/when Mourinho does it in a home game.
Jose was hammered for stifling the Liverpool attack at Anfield.
But obviously Klopp only ever plays swashbuckling football with no regard for any threat by the opposition.
 
PickledRed said:
My favourite repeated bit of nonsense on this website.
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I think you'd have a hard job arguing many of your players are top draw.
Clearly that means Klopp is doing a great job.

However, Leicester stormed the league last year, and how many top draw players did they have?
 
Everybody bar United has the nearly the same amount of 'top draw players though'.

United has the most in Mkhi, Pogba, Zlatan, then Chelsea have Costa and Hazard, Spurs have Kane, Arsenal have Sanchez Ozil(?) and Liverpool have Coutinho, while Firmino Mane and Sturridge proving to be more than decent support cast.

Not really a big difference.
 
Righteous Steps said:
Everybody bar United has the nearly the same amount of 'top draw players though'.

United has the most in Mkhi, Pogba, Zlatan, then Chelsea have Costa and Hazard, Spurs have Kane, Arsenal have Sanchez Ozil(?) and Liverpool have Coutinho, while Firmino Mane and Sturridge proving to be more than decent support cast.

Not really a big difference.
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Would we take any more than a couple of Liverpool's lineup into ours?

And we're 6th!
 
TheReligion said:
Yeah they were the home team both yesterday and against United. I'd like to think the onus was on them to win the game.

My point was Klopp showed a Plan B so to speak and got his unpretty result. Jose did very similar for us during a very rough patch and got a result of sorts and was hammered by the Liverpool contingent.
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There the similarity ends. Surely you watched the game ? Instead of playing 4-2-3-1 Klopp sacrificed his striker (or false 9) and added strength to the midfield but gave licence to Wijnaldum to push forward from midfield far more than usual. We were still far less defensive than United at Anfield in the second half, we should have been 2 or 3 up by HT but for Firmino's poor judgement and touch (both unusual for him, he didn't have a good game) and had dominant spells from (roughly) 46-56 and 80 - 90+, giving up the 20 odd minutes in the middle to City (Pep gave a very similar breakdown of 2nd half dominance in his post-match conference so this isn't blind bias). It was a complete shock to the system and I'm sure to Pep and the City players. Tactically it was superb as proven by the lack of opportunities City had, Aguero not touching the ball once in penalty area and the chances we had to extend our lead but failed to take .. and of course we won in the end.
 
Rafateria said:
There the similarity ends. Surely you watched the game ? Instead of playing 4-2-3-1 Klopp sacrificed his striker (or false 9) and added strength to the midfield but gave licence to Wijnaldum to push forward from midfield far more than usual. We were still far less defensive than United at Anfield in the second half, we should have been 2 or 3 up by HT but for Firmino's poor judgement and touch (both unusual for him, he didn't have a good game) and had dominant spells from (roughly) 46-56 and 80 - 90+, giving up the 20 odd minutes in the middle to City (Pep gave a very similar breakdown of 2nd half dominance in his post-match conference so this isn't blind bias). It was a complete shock to the system and I'm sure to Pep and the City players. Tactically it was superb as proven by the lack of opportunities City had, Aguero not touching the ball once in penalty area and the chances we had to extend our lead but failed to take .. and of course we won in the end.
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It was a drab game and Klopp adjusted his style of play to blunt City's attack. Mourinho did the same away from home and in his tough start at United.

It's hypocritical not to recognise the two.
 
Sandikan said:
Would we take any more than a couple of Liverpool's lineup into ours?

And we're 6th!
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That's been done by multiple posters in another thread. It depends on the poster and the formation you plan to play. Some would take 1 others up to 5. Personally, playing Klopp's formation and tactics and on this seasons' form, I'd take 3 United players (De Gea, Bailly, Pogba) maybe 4 but TBH I don't think Ibro could play as well in our formation / to our tactics, as Firmino and that's really the only slot open to him.
 
TheReligion said:
It was a drab game and Klopp adjusted his style of play to blunt City's attack. Mourinho did the same away from home and in his tough start at United.

It's hypocritical not to recognise the two.
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It's blind bias not to realise they were different.
 
Righteous Steps said:
Everybody bar United has the nearly the same amount of 'top draw players though'.

United has the most in Mkhi, Pogba, Zlatan, then Chelsea have Costa and Hazard, Spurs have Kane, Arsenal have Sanchez Ozil(?) and Liverpool have Coutinho, while Firmino Mane and Sturridge proving to be more than decent support cast.

Not really a big difference.
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Lallana? Can't think of many who have had a better season. He's been excellent for club and country this season. Certainly 'top drawer'
 
TheReligion said:
You are the poster that has this bizarre opinon that the bus was parked at Anfield and United played off the park with De Gea dressed as Superman so I'm not surprised you can't accept it.
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The double decker wasn't and he wasn't ? Weird. Could have sworn that's what I saw. Nothing bizarre about it when considering you are the poster who wouldn't give Liverpool credit if they won 38 straight.
 
Rafateria said:
The double decker wasn't and he wasn't ? Weird. Could have sworn that's what I saw. Nothing bizarre about it when considering you are the poster who wouldn't give Liverpool credit if they won 38 straight.
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Perhaps you don't get what parking the bus means?

If you play a team off the park and want to say you've battered them then you need to produce more than 2 shots on target over 90 minutes. . (One of which was from 30 yards).

Just saying.
 
Klopp is doing a great job for them. January will be tough though, they should cope without Mane vs United and Chelsea, two hugely important games.
 
Rafateria said:
The double decker wasn't and he wasn't ? Weird. Could have sworn that's what I saw. Nothing bizarre about it when considering you are the poster who wouldn't give Liverpool credit if they won 38 straight.
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There's a huge difference between our second half performance at Anfield, and what the likes of West Brom and Sunderland do on a regular basis.

Our display against Bayern under Moyes was a classic bus parking experience. As in everyone deep behind the ball, highly regimented, no risks, and hoping to scuffle a goal in off a set piece.
More than a little embarrassing for a supposed euro quarter final for a team of our standing.
 
TheReligion said:
Perhaps you don't get what parking the bus means?

If you play a team off the park and want to say you've battered them then you need to produce more than 2 shots on target over 90 minutes. . (One of which was from 30 yards).

Just saying.
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Isn't the whole idea of 'parking the bus' to prevent 'shots on target' ? Mission achieved then. That 30 yarder was destined for the top corner bar a world-class save from De Gea. I didn't BTW say we'd played you off the park.
 
Rafateria said:
Isn't the whole idea of 'parking the bus' to prevent 'shots on target' ? Mission achieved then. That 30 yarder was destined for the top corner bar a world-class save from De Gea. I didn't BTW say we'd played you off the park.
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If you think parking the bus is simply prevention of shots on target then I'm right. You don't have a clue.
 
The biggest compliment Liverpool have had this season was that United game at Anfield.

Mourinho set his team up to not get beat in a fashion I'd not seen from a United side. They played dead after about 65mins with no ambition whatsoever. All so Mourinho could say his "last wonder of the world" comment at the end. United have unquestionably been the best team to visit Anfield this season, but it was a containment job. He really rated the opposition - more than some in here that's for sure.
 
Sandikan said:
Would we take any more than a couple of Liverpool's lineup into ours?

And we're 6th!
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Personally;

I'd take Matip alongside Bailly in defense
Clyne over Valencia at right back.
Milner over Blind at left back. Neither are natural LB but Milner has impressed me more.
Lallana over Herrera (controversial I know)
Coutinho on the left to compliment Micky and Zlatan

My combined United-Liverpool XI would look something like this;

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Clyne - Bailly - Matip - Milner
Lallana - Carrick - Pogba
Mkhitaryan - Zlatan - Coutinho
 
Infordin said:
Personally;

I'd take Matip alongside Bailly in defense
Clyne over Valencia at right back.
Milner over Blind at left back. Neither are natural LB but Milner has impressed me more.
Lallana over Herrera (controversial I know)
Coutinho on the left to compliment Micky and Zlatan

My combined United-Liverpool XI would look something like this;

DDG
Clyne - Bailly - Matip - Milner
Lallana - Carrick - Pogba
Mkhitaryan - Zlatan - Coutinho
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Seems pretty fair - Carrick over Henderson and Mkhi over Mane are the two I would dispute as a one-eyed Liverpool fan.
 
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