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Dave was 20 when we signed him.Well to be more accurate, De Gea was 21 and Karius is 23.
Dave was 20 when we signed him.Well to be more accurate, De Gea was 21 and Karius is 23.
No it isn't. Saying someone has been poor is normal, attacking someone saying they are not good enough in such a definitive manner .. this early into someones first season especially at the age the guy is at and in the goalkeeper position. Seems unfair and if I was a manager, I'd be pretty pissed off. Someone like Jose would lose his shit for sure.
No it isn't. Saying someone has been poor is normal, attacking someone saying they are not good enough in such a definitive manner .. this early into someones first season especially at the age the guy is at and in the goalkeeper position. Seems unfair and if I was a manager, I'd be pretty pissed off. Someone like Jose would lose his shit for sure.
Usually.Well no because we know better, but the media and the scouser fans like to portray him as a happy go lucky.. master of attacking football. They're building him up for a big fall and he's fallen into the trap with these unnecessary comments. Showing this side to him is fine, but it is not his general character.. he's at his best when he's relaxed and the free flowing football is on fire, he's less effective when stressed as we saw at Dortmund. Jose is usually at his best with his back to the wall and when the siege mentality is in play.
Did Klopp mention his own playing career?Find it hilarious that Klopp has come out with 'he's a failed manager' arguement.
For a start aren't Valencia in the relegation zone this season? The club has been in a downward spiral for while. That was already happening before Neville turned up.
Secondly he is a pundit, it's his job. He has been very critical of Martial in recent weeks.
Gary could quite easily say 'look at my trophy cabinet as a player'. Klopp has nothing to show for his playing career whereas Gary is one of the most decorated defenders of his generation.
Seems petty to comment at all about it, especially when the criticism is completely valid.
Especially when Klopp has hardly proved himself either..
True, but what Klopp pointed out is that it's dumb to rate players in such a way.What Klopp fails to understand is that you don't have to be a world-class manager to see that Karius isn't good enough (at least now) - even my wife would see that and she doesn't even watch football.
In Carragher's favour you have to say that at least he's never failed as badly as Neville did with Valencia and England. Gary Neville is like the naked king, someone had to call him out.I'm not comparing him to two proven world class managers, I'm making a point that calling out Neville for being a pundit just because he had a bad managerial experience is daft. He is a United legend, just as Carragher is a Liverpool legend. You don't see Klopp calling him out.
Klopp is talking about Neville as if he's never been involved in football.
Well, that Klopp isn't cracking up.Your point?
In Carragher's favour you have to say that at least he's never failed as badly as Neville did with Valencia and England. Gary Neville is like the naked king, someone had to call him out.
Yeah. No one did that when De Gea arrived.
That is just a stupid argument when Carragher has never taken the chance to go into management. So because he has never taken an opportunity to manage he is therefore immune from criticism?
Did Klopp mention his own playing career?
He didn't bring it upHe didn't but Klopp mentioned Gary's managerial ability as he perceived his record to be far superior and used that to embarrass him (you don't bring up a topic if you're worse at it than the person you're trying to humiliate)
Klopp is an idiot and shouldn't have brought any of this up as its put even more focus on Karius, but he knew he'd have the scousers eating out his hands by picking on the Nevilles - he's an attention whore
That's ok, Jose has copyrighted that one.Wait for the inevitable claims that this will bring Klopp and his squad closer together, he's creating a siege mentality in the dressing room, and it's something Fergie would have done
Of course they have.Haven't people on here said similar things to Klopp about Neville when he's criticised Mourinho and United?
Just love it really, the media pressure is now focused towards Liverpool. Just hope United can get into a winning run to make it worse. Well done the Neville brothers!
Particularly funny when I think how much the likes of Souness have slaughtered United for 3 years and nothing gets said even though he is a biased Liverpool loving pundit.
Hmmm. Klavan barely played. Matip has been outstanding - look at his record when in compared to out the team. But do go on.I don't get this Karius has more holes in his game than the house he occupies with his brother Bactus.. The point is that Liverpool's defence and keepers are not nearly good enough to challenge for titles and Klopp knows that, the problem here lies with these are his signings,. Klavan, Karius and Matip.. Now watch the media tear them apart.
Good times..
No. Jose has mentioned such perceived bias in his Chelsea daysJust love it really, the media pressure is now focused towards Liverpool. Just hope United can get into a winning run to make it worse. Well done the Neville brothers!
Particularly funny when I think how much the likes of Souness have slaughtered United for 3 years and nothing gets said even though he is a biased Liverpool loving pundit.
Yep. Two games without a win. Run for the hills, the daggers are out!!!Ahh so the Klopp honeymoon is over now, nice
Fair enough, but football fandom creates an echo chamber around it until it eats itself. It is something of nothing but is turned into a thing...until the next non-footballing football thing that happens.Rarely will you see somebody contradict themselves so many times in 60 seconds. What a bellend he is. Anybody classing that as anything more than waffle needs their head examined. It's basically a rant in a calm voice.
I don't get this Karius has more holes in his game than the house he occupies with his brother Bactus.. The point is that Liverpool's defence and keepers are not nearly good enough to challenge for titles and Klopp knows that, the problem here lies with these are his signings,. Klavan, Karius and Matip.. Now watch the media tear them apart.
Good times..
You were also this dismissive when defending Liverpools lack of clean sheets earlier.Yep. Two games without a win. Run for the hills, the daggers are out!!!
No, from Klopp's perspective at best it impressed his fan base and mildly irritated United fans.Klopps dig at Nevilles managerial (brief) record was childish and idiotic at best
When?You were also this dismissive when defending Liverpools lack of clean sheets earlier.
Sorry buddy, it was actually Shades.When?