Citeh are so lucky..
Julian Nagelsmann | Sacked and replaced by Tuchel
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I could win a league with Bayern in that farmer’s league to be fair!
Happy for Tuchel. He was being linked with clubs like Spurs which I always thought was beneath him at this stage.
Perfect timing for Count Orlok to come in and deny Guardiola the Champions League again
He's going to be on the clubs payroll till 2026 or until he finds a club? wtf?
He'll put his feet up and wait for the Real job to become available.
He's been released, not sacked. So he's still on the books until he finds a new job, alright innit?
One coach that is being overlooked atm is Glasner from Frankfurt. I think he is ready for a bigger club right now
Hopefully he goes to Spurs. So I can laugh at him and Spurs at the same time 
City are irrelevant, unless you have only been a United fan for the last 10 years?
But that is a different topic.
mentalists , cant see anything different with Tuchel , not that like he is not known to fall out with executives.
Second. 1 point off top shows how pathetic that league is and even Bayern know it.
This sacking is total proof it
This sacking is total proof it
Bayern trying that new manager bounce for the Champions League
They’ll always be irrelevant but still won’t want them winning anything and especially the CL.
8 wins in 8 matches. They don't need it. Strangest sacking in recent times
Great this bellend in the EPL
Bayern had a falling out with their managers for some time now, is that fair to say Bayern fans?
Flick, Ancelotti, Pep (?). Kovac was just bad and Heynckes is the only one who stopped on his own accord (I think?).
Wonder how long Tuchel is going to stay on. Guess it would be worth it for a couple of CL titles. I’d say Bayern are big favorites.
Flick, Ancelotti, Pep (?). Kovac was just bad and Heynckes is the only one who stopped on his own accord (I think?).
Wonder how long Tuchel is going to stay on. Guess it would be worth it for a couple of CL titles. I’d say Bayern are big favorites.
Seen he's won 60 odd games and lost 10 in 2 years with a 71% win rate...madness
Flick and Pep both left on their own accord. Pep saw his contract out, Flick was prematurely released because he wanted to manage the national team, and him and Brazzo couldn't stand each other.
Nagelsmann was very much Salihamidzic's man, I wonder what that means for his position.
Whenever I saw Bayern play under him, they played without any real style or pattern.
You compare a 32-35 year old’s current level to legends like Heynckes, the worlds current no 1 and 2 coach (Guardiola and Klopp), that to me is really strange, do you think that is relevant? If anybody else does, that’s on them, in my view. Flick also had the biggest flow I’ve seen with a team, wether that’s his level remains to be seen, but that Bayern year was crazy by any standard, also Bayern’s own. Tuchel has done overwhelming things and underwhelming things. He went toe to toe with Guardiola and he did the same with Solskjær.
Nagelsmann did better with Leipzig than any other coach has, despite his age. Coaches normally improve a lot of skills with experience, so when Bayern got him for a record fee, you would have to assume that their sports direction either thought he is already the best available coach around when Guardiola and Klopp are taken (or that he is close enough that he may become that level with support and experience, that it’s worth it because he’s young and Bavarian, to invest in him rather than to go for the maybe more established Ten Hag. If they let him go at this point, it’s safe to say it’s not to do with his results, but has to do with stuff behind the scenes. If he’s been well supported by the hierarchs and still managed to ostracize the whole squad, it’s on him to live and learn another place. If Salihamidzic et al haven’t wholeheartedly supported a 35 year old trying to stand up to players like Neuer and Müller, then hiring him in the first place sounds less than well thought out.
I thought he was interesting tactically but almost Bielsa-like in how he depended on perfection and robotic behaviour from his players for the tactics to work. But I still think he were on his way to a CL trophy this season
Surely that benefits the club and not him, am I right? Isn’t there normally a big payoff when someone is sacked.
If we get bought by Qatar do we become irrelevant?
Much our success would become irrelevant if we end up a state puppet.
Poch can't catch a break! 
Depends how you dress it up…
But it won’t be a good day if/when that happens…and I won’t be celebrating the occasion.
Where does he factor in?Poch can't catch a break!
Not getting the Bayern job and not getting the Spurs job if Nagelsmann goes there.
City will smash them in the CL now.
You do know the current standings in the Bundesliga, don’t you?
You would have thought Pirlo at Juve would have stopped this "anyone and their dog can win X league with the best team" crap.
Hard to catch a break when you're shitPoch can't catch a break!
He was lauded as the next big thing and when he was at Hoffenheim, the idea of him elevating top players like that was quite frightening. In that regard he hasn't delivered for whatever reason. If you ask me, I also think it was down to things not really related to football expertise: Man management, club politics, etc. And let's be honest, he has been a bit clumsy in those disciplines at Bayern. And while I agree that he didn't encounter ideal circumstances and that a club should back its coach more than that, the reality usually looks different. I'd argue that he'll have it even more difficult at all other top clubs. So I don't want to void Salihamidzic of all the blame, he's clearly an idiot with a big ego shaped by the outdated and dusty Hoeneß style of management, but it won't be any easier when he has to deal with the eccentric owners or the Spanish/English press.
Plus it remains to be seen if his system really works with top players. For my liking it is a bit too transition heavy which is true for most German coaches. Tuchel and Klopp both let that behind them. It is part of their game plan but their possession play is much better than Nagelsmann's in my inpression.
Well, I don’t care so much for general opinion, as you maybe can tell, but it’s different hearing an honest opinion, so I appreciate that.
I’ll still be interested in following Nagelsmann’s further work. If he can learn from mistakes without losing his strong points. Klopp was still at Mainz at his age, wasn’t he?
Absolutely. I'm not saying he's finished or anything like that, just that I don't think his Leipzig and Bayern squads overperformed to the same extent as his Hoffenheim. Since he's so young he can improve in every aspect, mind, be it man management, play style, club politics, etc.
Especially the 'soft skills' should naturally improve with age. It's a bit hard to describe but the way he conducts himself in interviews etc it just seems a bit fitting that he doesn't really inspire the same kind of following as Klopp or Tuchel. Comes across as a bit self centered to me. And to be honest, I think that also reflects a bit in his tactical setups. At times it seems as if he wants to always outcoach the opponent. Which works fine when he's the star of the team as it has been the case at Hoffenheim and partly at Leipzig as well but at Bayern I feel he at times would have been better off implementing a distinctive playstyle and leaving a bit more to the players. The patchy results kind of support that impression - there peak and bottom have been very extreme this season.
What makes this even more critical is that his tactical variations also involved many changes of the line up. And while that might be accepted by lesser players, most top players react different to be left out for tactical reasons. Such things can disrupt their rhythm and I have the feeling he's underestimating such dynamics. Many top coaches pay more attention to getting their top players in form than finding the perfect tactical approach for every game, especially when the team outcoasses the opponent anyway. And if you do it, you need to get your players on board which requires a wuality of leadership I currently don't really see with him.
Clubs run by ex-players. Ex-players are never happy.
Tuchel has history in ending City CL dreams.
Still in all competitions and they sack him, stupid.