Completely depends on what was agreed upon between player and club. If the club broke its promise, Draxler's behaviour is 100% legitimate.
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That's pretty tall for a winger. He's a winger right?
If they do sign him, that's surely the end of walcott.
Walcott still being at Arsenal shows why Arsenal never win the big trophies.
Has a player ever as poor as Walcott been kept at a top 4 club for so long and been made one of the highest earners?
I don't understand Wenger's loyalty to Walcott at all.
While you're absolutely right, try telling that to Schweinsteiger. He signed a contract as well, but is being pushed out without being given a chance. It works both ways.
Another one for Wenger's "I almost signed him" list?
Sounds like that'll get a bit messy.
Allofs should have said really nothing about Draxler or he'll lose soon his job.
I agree it works both ways. although I have no idea which narrative is correct it looks like Bastian will have a rather unsavoury end to his United career and its a shame it hasn't been handled with much more dignity.
Just a thought but maybe Mourinho see's BFS as a Pep reject(I know that's harsh) so doesn't want nothing to do with him?
You mean like Ibra?
You simply have to put these kind of things on paper. Otherwise it's he said she said. A game where millions of euros are involved, agents know stuff like that. He signed a five year contract with no release clause, after one year he starts moaning...why 5 fecking years!? Surely if he had taken a paycut and a smaller signing bonus, he could have gotten more guarantees, but he made his bed and now has to live in it.
As aformentioned, no paperwork to back it up. He has nothing to show for, that's on him!
With all due respect, i can't agree on this sentence. Last season, Draxler didn't put in the necessary work in the Bundesliga, he showed up a few times in the UCL and you have to wonder why. Wolfsburg paid about 40 mil. for him, that's not normal for them, they gave them the keys to the kingdom, he had all the responsibilities in the world, but nevertheless downed tools in the end. Wolfsburd didn't make it back in the CL and he's one of the reasons why, part of the problem! But the way he conducts himself in the limelight, i get that a big company don't want to dance to his tune and calm him down by hook or by crook.
I don't want Wenger to sign someone like Mustafi, so i keep my fingers crossed that he'll decide do go with Draxler, big fecking german as a starter is always gonna be a joy to watch.
Wenger can develop young guys decently, i'm not sure whether Juve would be better for him, since Conte i'm not sure which young prospect really made it from scratch. Someone like Dybala was already one of the best players in the league, imo. Maybe it's time for a lecture, mhh.
As aformentioned, no paperwork to back it up. He has nothing to show for, that's on him!
With all due respect, i can't agree on this sentence. Last season, Draxler didn't put in the necessary work in the Bundesliga, he showed up a few times in the UCL and you have to wonder why. Wolfsburg paid about 40 mil. for him, that's not normal for them, they gave them the keys to the kingdom, he had all the responsibilities in the world, but nevertheless downed tools in the end. Wolfsburd didn't make it back in the CL and he's one of the reasons why, part of the problem! But the way he conducts himself in the limelight, i get that a big company don't want to dance to his tune and calm him down by hook or by crook.
I don't want Wenger to sign someone like Mustafi, so i keep my fingers crossed that he'll decide do go with Draxler, big fecking german as a starter is always gonna be a joy to watch.
Wenger can develop young guys decently, i'm not sure whether Juve would be better for him, since Conte i'm not sure which young prospect really made it from scratch. Someone like Dybala was already one of the best players in the league, imo. Maybe it's time for a lecture, mhh.
It's all too common in professional sports to have verbal agreements like these, not justified to assume the player has unnecessarily caused a stir
Arsenal under Wenger is not a club that a player can go to and develop chops for the game. They have a reputation for being soft and Draxler needs to be polished, not to join a London party club. Italian football requires discipline, Allegri & the vets they have would be ideal professionals to bring a talent like Draxler along and perhaps help realize his potential. I think it'd get squandered at Arsenal although I think his talent is undeniable
Club denied any sort of former agreement, so it's difficult to say who's lying here. The player turned directly to the media, i think that's always not good of an idea, burning bridges, they should have had a meeting right after the holidays, imo.
I remember Diego at Juventus and that didn't go that well, to be fair, it was a different time and not Allegri. I'm under the impression that Draxler's physique has stagnated big time and the Premiership is very demanding, could be make or break for him and at his age the time has come, imo. I'm not sure if Arsenal are 'soft', maybe Wenger shits himself before big games and they always end up having medical problems, but Wenger showed Poldi ruthlessly the door. He can make the hard calls.
Going to Juve or Arsenal, choice is yours, both are huge clubs which are run properly, you really can't make a 'wrong' choice here, imo.
Ibra didn't like Pep just like Jose doesn't so it's a perfect relationship
Walcott did a Rooney and got a hugely undeserving contract at a time of weakness for the club, pretty much exactly what Rooney did some years ago now.
Walcott doesn't have that killer instinct, nor the class, to make it as a top footballer. Unfortunately we are now shackled with his contract and have to hope he either has a magical transformation or West Ham keep getting rebuffed from other targets and settle for him.
Wolfsburg confirmed that there is a release clause in Draxler's contract. It just can't be triggered before 2017. Basically they agreed that Draxler would stay at least 2 years but can leave after his second year through a release clause over 75m Euro. That's how the contract is written. Draxler needs to get his act together, start showing quality performances week in week out and then someone might save him from his stupid decision to sign a 5 year deal in Wolfsburg.
I read it, i forgot it, thanks for the reminder. Not 5 years, only 2. Still clause is high as feck and this year he can't do a thing. Don't think he's got the balls to pull off a Calhanoglu.
It's not a 'stupid' decision to play for Wolfsburg, who are a good club in the Bundesliga, imo. The level Draxler has shown over the last year indicates that's the level he belongs to at the moment. I think he panicks a bit, thought a handful of good performances in the CL and for Germany would be enough. Sissoko showed less and could end up at Real Madrid, yeah, i can see where he's coming from, but i can't condone it.
What an absolute tool, should've thought twice before running away from Schalke last year and signing a five year contract instead of crying like a baby now. 'Verbal agreement', my ass. As if Wolfsburg would've granted him permission to jump ship at every opportunity just like that. 'Yo, you just signed me for a record fee but surely I am allowed to leave whenever I want, right?' 'Yeah absolutely, done deal'. Wolfsburg already called him out in a press statement that there was no such agreement, the only legal agreement that was made was his release clause of 75m€ which can be triggered from next year on. Good luck finding someone who pays that much Draxler. With your half arsed efforts during the season I doubt clubs would even pay half of that. Hope he rots in that boring shithole for the next 4 years, can't stand an attitude like that. Dislike Wolfsburg as well so all this drama is highly amusing.
We're not in for this fella, nor should we be.
What I would say, though, is that he'd be a great option for United's #10 spot. He has all the tools needed to play there in the current United team, especially off of Ibrahimović.
What I would say, though, is that he'd be a great option for United's #10 spot. He has all the tools needed to play there in the current United team, especially off of Ibrahimović.
Coming to Everton. Wait, what?
Barring Bale the worlds most expensive player ever and Ronaldo's rise to stardom years between 2006-2009 give me one Wideman/wing-forward within any premier league season that was more productive than Walcott was in 2012-2013 in terms of goals & assists outlet?
The issue with Theo is game is limited hence sometimes he looks out of place in the Arsenal team where theres such emphasis on passing and technical proficiency but when he's fully sharp he's still one of the most dangerous attackers in the league with his pace, off the ball movement and finishing.
His form has been poor admittedly throughout the the last 12-18 months but I put that down mainly to injuries which have meant he hasn't been able to sustain an understanding with the likes of Ozil & Alexis like he once had with Rosicky, Song and RVP in 2012. As an Arsenal supporter he still has a key role to play I think.
Cazorla had almost identical stats to Walcott in 12/13. Hazard 14/15. Mahrez 15/16. Walcott is a decent player but he is nowhere near the level that Arsenal should be aspiring to. While 12/13 was a great season for him he isn't a top prospect that any other top team would want. He is fast.
Draxler will have to wait just one more season. He is a good player but going the media route isn't doing him any favors.
That's one season, 4 seasons ago, what does that prove? Ayew in his first ever season in the premier league, playing for a very average Swansea side, got 12 goals to Walcott's 14.
I don't think you can even put down the bad form due to injuries, he's had one good productive season and the rest he has ranged from inconsistent to crap. It's frustrating, because in that 12/13 season I thought he'd taken the next step and would become a genuine goal scoring threat from out wide with the ability to play centrally too, but all that happened was he whined about wanting to play centrally, stunk up the place, now he's whining about playing out wide to see if he can get into the team over the 12 year old Iwobi.
You read way too much into my comments. He fits your system more than ours, nothing more.
Apologies then.
Just feel like he is far too injury prone and highly inconsistent. Players like that are one's we should stay far away from.
I do feel that he needs to move to a bigger club in order to bring the best out of him every game. He seems to impress in the big games, generally.
Mkhitaryan's a significantly better player, surely?
Cazorla operated centrally behind the centre forward for the bulk of that campaign whilst Hazard and Mahrez are of course technically more expansive than Theo they still never produced his overall numbers in all competitions in those respective seasons.
Mahrez 15/16 - 18 Goals & 10 Assists
Pires 03/04 - 20 Goals & 10 Assists
Hazard 14/15 - 19 Goals & 13 Assists
Beckham 99/00 - 9 Goals & 21 Assists
Bale 12/13 - 26 Goals & 10 Assists
Walcott 13/14 - 21 goals & 17 Assists
Ronaldo 07/08 - 42 Goals & 10 Assists
At the end of the day I know my football very well so I'm fully aware of Theo's deficiencies and he frustrated the hell out of me when he s a youngster because like any Arsenal supporters I believed the hype surrounding him and thought he'd be Thierry's long term successor but it became more and more transparent that wasn't going to occur but overall if Walcott could stay fit and start doing what he does best he's a valuable attacking component for any top side.
Look at Pedro for that formidable Barcelona team from 2008 to 2012, he wasn't the most fancy of players but his efficiency made him a very important asset for that side.
Yeah, specially as a captain and on a 300k wages.... Oh... Wait
I don't rate Walcott much but seriously? You can't think of poorer players than Walcott playing for top 4 clubs or winning the league?
Highest paid player and starting...no I can't
Wazza
He's the second highest goalscorer in the club's history. Not a valid comparison.
Sir Bobby Charlton shouldn't be starting for us right now either.
I have seen him play as left winger, No.10 and sometimes as striker. Does anyone know if he also plays as right winger?
He can play anywhere across the front line really, but he's best from the left or centre. He's the type who likes to cut in and shoot/pass rather than whip in crosses.