Jude Bellingham | Real Madrid player

CloneMC16 said:
It's got nothing to do with simping for Madrid.

If that happened to us, everybody on this forum would be fecking livid. Doesn't matter who the team is. I would even say the same if it happened to Liverpool or City.
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Yeah so when it happens to your team it's understandable to be upset. But when it happens to others especially City or Liverpool or other big clubs even though they aren't rivals, it's funny unless it as a really big unjust. Which this is not.

It's hilarious when it happens to Liverpool btw. See Luis Diaz disallowed goal. See the entire seasonally thread dedicated to RAWK meltdowns. Liverpool get enough decisions their way so I don't see it as unjust. Mistakes happen.

simonhch said:
Cry babies? Virtually everyone in here is a United fan and almost completely neutral in this. The overwhelming consensus is that this is completely outrageous referring. You are in the vocal minority that thinks this is okay, and to get your point across starts calling people names. If anyone is showcasing a lack of emotional maturity, it’s you.
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Look the ridiculous decisions Real Madrid got to win over Almeria. You get some, you lose some. I'm not in the minority. There's many laughing at them. You're just upset because you might have a soft spot for Madrid like quite a number of people on the forum.

Anyway I've already said they should not even be playing that long. 1:40 over extra time. Corner was meant to be last play. Would've been unfair of Valencia to concede a goal at that stage.
 
Judas said:
It's quite bizarre for anyone to think this is alright and not mad. It would be funny to see it happen to Liverpool or City, but it would still be scandalous. It seemed beyond inept leaning into dodgy.
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Nothing dodgy about it. He just made the mistake of not blowing some seconds earlier and made up for that error. I understand players feeling tricked into thinking they had more time but it wasn’t the case and a ref abused in that situation did the right thing to issue a red. Players can behave themselves or serve a ban - their choice if they want to behave like infants who follow no rules.

Plus in general Madrid get favourable decisions consistently. This is just a badly handled decisions rather than a bad one.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Nothing dodgy about it. He just made the mistake of not blowing some seconds earlier and made up for that error. I understand players feeling tricked into thinking they had more time but it wasn’t the case and a ref abused in that situation did the right thing to issue a red. Players can behave themselves or serve a ban - their choice if they want to behave like infants who follow no rules.

Plus in general Madrid get favourable decisions consistently. This is just a badly handled decisions rather than a bad one.
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It's a bad decision. He didn't make up for his error, he made a worse one. You don't see decisions like this ever, its not a done thing, it's appalling reffing. Again another situation where reffing is used to squash goals instead of encouraging them. I'm sure if I went through your posts they'll be examples of you being annoyed at refs blowing when Utd were about to break or go on an attack, this is ten times worse than anything I've ever seen happen to us in this sort of situation.
 
Judas said:
It's a bad decision. He didn't make up for his error, he made a worse one. You don't see decisions like this ever, its not a done thing, it's appalling reffing. Again another situation where reffing is used to squash goals instead of encouraging them. I'm sure if I went through your posts they'll be examples of you being annoyed at refs blowing when Utd were about to break or go on an attack, this is ten times worse than anything I've ever seen happen to us in this sort of situation.
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Sound like a Madrid fan alright. It wasn’t 10 times worse than anything. They had played a minute and 40 seconds over the additional time. He should have blown the whistle as soon as it went to the flank but hesitated. Hope we see more calls like this. Referreeing is not being used to encourage goals? I dislike VAR ruining goals but we also have to see all the things happening in favour of goals - like adding so much time, soft refereeing with attackers getting all the protection etc
 
What do people expect the ref to do there? Madrid had Valencia on the ropes, with no end to that in sight, is he supposed to let the play continue uninterrupted until Valencia clear it away? The time was up and he blew the whistle. The "goal" was scored well after the whistle and a number of Valencia players had already stopped playing.
 
Jericho said:
What do people expect the ref to do there? Madrid had Valencia on the ropes, with no end to that in sight, is he supposed to let the play continue uninterrupted until Valencia clear it away? The time was up and he blew the whistle. The "goal" was scored well after the whistle and a number of Valencia players had already stopped playing.
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There is a video in which the referee hurries to whistle when he sees that there is going to be a cross.
He could have whistled after the corner or in the seconds before the cross. He whistles when an offensive action starts. Imagine, extra time and a player runs alone without oposition, dribbles the goalkeeper and at that moment the referee decides the end.
It is not a goal, clearly the whistle is earlier but it is certainly not usual, it reflects a bad refereeing.
 
carvajal said:
There is a video in which the referee hurries to whistle when he sees that there is going to be a cross.
He could have whistled after the corner or in the seconds before the cross. He whistles when an offensive action starts. Imagine, extra time and a player runs alone without oposition, dribbles the goalkeeper and at that moment the referee decides the end.
It is not a goal, clearly the whistle is earlier but it is certainly not usual, it reflects a bad refereeing.
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Yeah, ref blew right as the ball was being crossed. Second whistle is as Bellingham heads it. Still a pretty mad choice not to wait until the offensive phase is complete though. Should have blown earlier or later.
 
JogaBonitoRooney said:
Yeah so when it happens to your team it's understandable to be upset. But when it happens to others especially City or Liverpool or other big clubs even though they aren't rivals, it's funny unless it as a really big unjust. Which this is not.

It's hilarious when it happens to Liverpool btw. See Luis Diaz disallowed goal. See the entire seasonally thread dedicated to RAWK meltdowns. Liverpool get enough decisions their way so I don't see it as unjust. Mistakes happen.



Look the ridiculous decisions Real Madrid got to win over Almeria. You get some, you lose some. I'm not in the minority. There's many laughing at them. You're just upset because you might have a soft spot for Madrid like quite a number of people on the forum.

Anyway I've already said they should not even be playing that long. 1:40 over extra time. Corner was meant to be last play. Would've been unfair of Valencia to concede a goal at that stage.
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I don’t really watch La Liga, just the odd game. So no thought on previous decisions. And the time issue is irrelevant. You blow the whistle after the corner, not when the ball is mid air into the box. The most absurd thing I’ve seen in a long time.
 
simonhch said:
I don’t really watch La Liga, just the odd game. So no thought on previous decisions. And the time issue is irrelevant. You blow the whistle after the corner, not when the ball is mid air into the box. The most absurd thing I’ve seen in a long time.
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Clive Thomas would disagree.
 
Why couldn’t the referee blow the whistle after the set piece routine was done? Why call time in the middle of an attacking opportunity? Bizarre decision and Real have a right to feel aggrieved in this instance.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Sound like a Madrid fan alright. It wasn’t 10 times worse than anything. They had played a minute and 40 seconds over the additional time. He should have blown the whistle as soon as it went to the flank but hesitated. Hope we see more calls like this. Referreeing is not being used to encourage goals? I dislike VAR ruining goals but we also have to see all the things happening in favour of goals - like adding so much time, soft refereeing with attackers getting all the protection etc
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I’m not a Real fan :lol: grow up. Attackers getting all the protection?! Not sure what football you’ve been watching, I see every week every goal scrutinized beyond reason to see if it can be ruled out.

Honestly anyone who think it’s totally fine to see the whistle blown in that exact circumstance is bizarre. Can’t make sense of the rationale at all. The ref got it wrong.
 
If the game was continuing 2/3/4/5 seconds etc after the added on time, instead of 1 minute 40 seconds I’d see the problem, because that shouldn’t happen. But 1 minute 40? The ref has to find a place to blow up and he does so with the ball out of the box and the player opposed with little space. His first blow is before the player manages to squeeze in a cross. The second comes before Bellingham heads it.

You can’t just ignore the context of it being blown 1 min 40 seconds after time was up.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Sound like a Madrid fan alright. It wasn’t 10 times worse than anything. They had played a minute and 40 seconds over the additional time. He should have blown the whistle as soon as it went to the flank but hesitated. Hope we see more calls like this. Referreeing is not being used to encourage goals? I dislike VAR ruining goals but we also have to see all the things happening in favour of goals - like adding so much time, soft refereeing with attackers getting all the protection etc
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as I said earlier it’s a MINIMUM so anything over that is not additional, he can play another 30 if he so chooses.
 
People still don't understand minimum added time despite being a United fan for years :lol:
Always funny hearing "the time is done"
 
Jeppers7 said:
If the game was continuing 2/3/4/5 seconds etc after the added on time, instead of 1 minute 40 seconds I’d see the problem, because that shouldn’t happen. But 1 minute 40? The ref has to find a place to blow up and he does so with the ball out of the box and the player opposed with little space. His first blow is before the player manages to squeeze in a cross. The second comes before Bellingham heads it.

You can’t just ignore the context of it being blown 1 min 40 seconds after time was up.
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So what's the context? Was there any injuries? Subs? Anything similar?
 
Rooney in Paris said:
But that would not happen as it would be ridiculous. It was perfectly fine for him to blow the whistle when he did.
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The reaction to him blowing the whistle is the issue, simply wrong mobbing the ref and expecting him to change his decision? Nothing wrong in what he did, people expecting him to whistle after Real completed their attack just weird.
 
Jeppers7 said:
context was 1 min 40 seconds, the ball leaves the box and hasn’t even been crossed yet.
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No that's not context.
That's how much additional permissions as over the announced

The actual context would be why it was an extra 1.40 on top. You cant say whether it was right or wrong to have that extra amount without that added context
 
Sylar said:
No that's not context.
That's how much additional permissions as over the announced

The actual context would be why it was an extra 1.40 on top. You cant say whether it was right or wrong to have that extra amount without that added context
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So we aren’t whining now about the fact a goal was scored from a cross after the whistle had gone? What you’re whining about is that the referee didn’t play enough added time after the added time?
 
How the hell are people blaming Bellingham for this? Absolutely ridiculous decision from the ref.
 
Sylar said:
People still don't understand minimum added time despite being a United fan for years :lol:
Always funny hearing "the time is done"
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Everyone understands. The time is done when the ref says it is. It’s not like he blew at 97 minutes and said “the time is done”. He let it go for however much further he felt was right. Whether Madrid score or not after that is irrelevant.
 
In my opinion, referees should NOT do things that look insane while the league is embroiled in a decades-long refereeing scandal. That is true of this, of the Almería game, etc. Just out of a basic sense of self-preservation.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
The time is done when the ref says it is.
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The problem is Spanish football is currently dealing with a "secret payments to refereeing committee member" scandal and there are many open questions about impartiality. This is just about the worst time in the world for refereeing action to be justified by "because i have full authority."
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
In my opinion, referees should NOT do things that look insane while the league is embroiled in a decades-long refereeing scandal. That is true of this, of the Almería game, etc. Just out of a basic sense of self-preservation.
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It's an unwritten convention that the ref shouldn't be calling full time during an attacking phase but they shouldn't be giving decisions to Real just because Barcelona are wrapped up in a scandal :lol:
 
Drainy said:
It's an unwritten convention that the ref shouldn't be calling full time during an attacking phase but they shouldn't be giving decisions to Real just because Barcelona are wrapped up in a scandal :lol:
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The referee could have simply blown the whistle earlier. This is a problem entirely of his own making.
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
The referee could have simply blown the whistle earlier. This is a problem entirely of his own making.
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Yes he should have blown up when they cleared the ball in the first place. After Real put the cross in it's against the usual 'unwritten rules' of football to call full time.

Either way officials should not be influenced one way or another of perceptions of bias and just make the decision to the best of their ability.
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
The problem is Spanish football is currently dealing with a "secret payments to refereeing committee member" scandal and there are many open questions about impartiality. This is just about the worst time in the world for refereeing action to be justified by "because i have full authority."
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Also justified by the time on the clock
 
SilentWitness said:
How the hell are people blaming Bellingham for this? Absolutely ridiculous decision from the ref.
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I don’t think it’s an issue that Madrid players felt aggrieved. It’s a natural reaction to feel so. But of course the referee is going to punish players who verbally abuse him - as actions / words have consequences when they overstep the line.
 
I have no ide what they are complaining about? He blew whistle and Madrid scored few seconds after. It is not like ball was going into the goal. Valencia and some Madrid players already stopped playing.

Had Premier League referees done their job correctly like this guy we wouldn't have a goal in 99 minute when we should play 98. We wouldn't have referee giving ball to a team which shouldn't have.
 
Drainy said:
Yes he should have blown up when they cleared the ball in the first place. After Real put the cross in it's against the usual 'unwritten rules' of football to call full time.

Either way officials should not be influenced one way or another of perceptions of bias and just make the decision to the best of their ability.
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He blew before the cross and while the ball was moving out the box away from goal.
 
Jeppers7 said:
So we aren’t whining now about the fact a goal was scored from a cross after the whistle had gone? What you’re whining about is that the referee didn’t play enough added time after the added time?
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Nobody is whining, it was a question. You either don't know the answer or you're becoming defensive for an odd reason in this and aren't mature enough to talk about this topic.

I have no concern either way if it's allowed or not as I don't care about the result. You brought up the extra minute forty like it's blasphemy that more time was added on the "added time" which is always a minimum allocation.
If you're unable to answer so be it.

amolbhatia50k said:
Everyone understands. The time is done when the ref says it is. It’s not like he blew at 97 minutes and said “the time is done”. He let it go for however much further he felt was right. Whether Madrid score or not after that is irrelevant.
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That's clearly not true given the responses in this thread.

Anyway there's a reason this situation doesn't happen a lot. You probably won't see this happen for a long time now either. If this was automated time or similar then I can understand the ref stopping dead on a certain time. There will certainly be no consistency around this (this will probably be a one off)
 
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