It's clearly not of zero relevance though, is it, as it relates to an action he took during a match he was playing for Real Madrid. Threads go slightly off topic all the time but given your input into the Greenwood thread it's no surprise that this is the occasion you take exception to.
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yeah. if greenwood didn’t do it, then what has he, or any of the masonists here, got to get so worked up about? checkmate, masonists.
None event. Players, other than racial or grave family things, can say stuff to try and get under rival players skin.
Both are top quality players. Bellingham really should be in the prem. Maybe joining RM and not City/Pool sets the path for him joining us in a few years if/when we get to the stage where we can start signing elite players in their prime.
Both are top quality players. Bellingham really should be in the prem. Maybe joining RM and not City/Pool sets the path for him joining us in a few years if/when we get to the stage where we can start signing elite players in their prime.
I really wish people could wait for the authorities on this. I mean, talk about trail by social media, calling Bellingham an insultist. We've only seen a small part of the clip and the authorities will have access to a longer recording of the alleged incident.
Until we have all the information, I don't think it's fair to say that Bellingham is guilty of calling Greenwood a rapist, so I'm just going to say that I don't know. I'll probably never know, so if the club carry on playing him, I'll support the clubs decision.
Basically, if you can't prove Bellingham is a insultist, you really should only be able to say alleged insultist, if anything at all, until it's proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he is an actual insultist. I don't care if he attempted to insult or threatened to insult, those aren't real crimes anyway, so can we just go back to talking about his football please?
Until we have all the information, I don't think it's fair to say that Bellingham is guilty of calling Greenwood a rapist, so I'm just going to say that I don't know. I'll probably never know, so if the club carry on playing him, I'll support the clubs decision.
Basically, if you can't prove Bellingham is a insultist, you really should only be able to say alleged insultist, if anything at all, until it's proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he is an actual insultist. I don't care if he attempted to insult or threatened to insult, those aren't real crimes anyway, so can we just go back to talking about his football please?
mate You are mixing apples with baboons and pretending they are the same genus. I havent " taken exception" to a thing. I simply don't see why M.G matters (his guilt, its moral significance etc) are being debated in a thread about Bellingham let alone their relevance to it.
I honestly have no horse in the race to figure out whether Bellingham allegedly said what he is alleged to have said nor whether its right/not. For I come from the school of thought that on a football pitch "all is fair in love and war". For I've seen people called worse things and have worse abuse thrown at them than being labelled a criminal, just to get them riled up and off kilter so that they can lose focus on a football pitch.
My only take on the matter is Bellingham is clearly being schooled in the dark arts well. Not a bad weapon to have as a football.
Is calling a rapist a rapist a bigger crime than actual rape? It's a bit of a grey area.
This is not a big thing at all in Spain btw. There's not even the risk of bellingham getting a suspension
Given how lightly they treat racism over there I seriously doubt this will amount to anything.
Everyone that has seen the images and hear the recordings had already made a conclusion on their mind, regardless of what was the outcome of the case. Then I think this shouldn't be a big issue, a player calling another player something in the middle of a match, it happens all the time. So Getafe filing a complaint is such a silly move on their behalf and is going to have the opposite effect as I can imagine more players and opposition fans will double down on calling him like that.
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Presumably the authorities will take action against Bellingham, shouldnt be saying things like that on a football pitch.
I can understand why he said it but still, he should be more intelligent than that, he must have gone out ready with it before kick off. Poor form.
I can understand why he said it but still, he should be more intelligent than that, he must have gone out ready with it before kick off. Poor form.
If Valverde got away with punching a guy in a parking lot, I'm guessing nothing will come of this.
Bellingham has been cleared of his charges as the alleged victim has withdrawn his complaint.
"using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or action(s)" is a red card offense by the letter of the law. If they used lip readers to go back and punish every player, I reckon about 75% of players in every game would be banned.
John Terry's ban (for saying "black cnut") came under the "abusive language" category so a ban after the even has been done before.
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A*, take a bow
If Real Madrid plays in the Super League next season, would he want to miss out on the CL?
I guess he never said it then.
Makes sense, he should be banned then.
Best in the world?
Generational talent but hopefully Mainoo can give him a run for his money 
Dude, tonight is the Vini show.
Better than Pelé
Ancelotti really is incredible at getting the best out of his players. So many great players have had their best seasons under him, when he's just seemingly taken the shackles off them.
But not ahead of Jordan Henderson and Kalvin Phillips.
Actually think this is Ancelotti's peak.
Seems to be finally mastering the art of league consistency.
Nah, La Liga is pretty weak this season. For Madrid this is like the Scottish league for Celtic after Rangers had been relegated.
I wonder if Sir Alex would've had a similar career had he left United in the early 2000s and gone around Europe
I wouldn't go that far, we were pretty inconsistent last season in the league, and this season Barca and Atletico are below par.
Has done well with the injury crisis at the back though.
Maybe but often in the past he didn't take advantage of things falling into place like this. Infact losing the league to Girona I would have said would have been something typical he'd have done 10 years ago.
With us he made the 2010 title look a lot harder than it should have been (given United lost 2 of their best 3 attacking players without properly replacing them) then the following season lost the league to probably Fergie's weakest post 92 United side where Rooney took half the season to score from open play.
Lost it at PSG, was looking likely to at Bayern, 1 in 6 with that Milan side (I say 6 as they were on the decline his last two season's and had little chance especially against peak Jose in 09) etc..
Would have been interesting. Would have probably had to adapt his management style a bit (if anyone could have he could have) as he'd have likely not been given the sheer amount of control he got at United and wouldn't have had a large bulk of a squad who owed their careers to him.
I wonder if he would have got itchy feet and given it a go had he 'retired' in the early 00s.
Did he ever play as a striker in his under 16 teams? If not then the transition into one has been incredible.
I fear he wont be utilised properly for England. He should play ahead of two other midfielders and as close to Kane as possible.
I fear he wont be utilised properly for England. He should play ahead of two other midfielders and as close to Kane as possible.
All accueate points but makes me think if it's him mastering the art of league consistency or if it's the fact that he's coaching for what seems like the first time a team whose main players are really young as opposed to the veterans he usually coaches?
Ancelotti is in the mould of Zidane or Del Bosque. He is obviously tactically as good as they come and his success has come largely from knowing how to gently steer a ship of players who are used to winning and have done it many times before. He provides that calmness and is like a father figure to these players. At Milan, he had the likes of Maldini, Cafu, Stam, Nesta, Seedorf and Pirlo. He goes to Chelsea and takes a team that was pretty much set on their ways with Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba actually preferring someone who doesn't interfere too much with how they play. He goes on to a Bayern that was programmed how to play under Pep and had seasoned professionals who won it all. Same at Real in 2014 who won the CL under him after they went to war with Mourinho with few of them winning the WC.
This Real is different. Their makeup is young and hungry players who have won before but they still don't have the status and are not set on their way of playing except of course Kroos, Modric and Carvajal. I think it's hard to achieve league consistency with the kind of squads he usually had. Chelsea after 2005 really struggled with that with or without Ancelotti as did Real when you consider the fact they won more CLs than league titles in the past decade. It's like what they lack in the hunger required to perform every week as well as the tactical foundation to fall back on, their inherent quality and knowhow can take care of the big CL games. This Real seems hungry enough and also maybe a better environment for him to flex his finer tactical details to build a more regimented tactical setup. Both elements that are needed to achieve league consistency.
Injured. Will be out for two or three weeks due to a sprain. Of course, he misses the Leipzig game in CL.
Yeah if you guys could start wrapping him up in cotton wool that would be great thanks.
You guys are cursed with injuries.
Excellent.
Well, that sucks.
Hopefully the team will manage…barring any other injuries. Guess he gets some much needed rest.