Ah yes, the annual "get disgusted and embarrassed about stuff that might not even be true"
Juan Mata
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Well if we wanted Stones, I'd assume his name will come up in discussions for Mata. So if they either deny selling or quote us something ridiculous, we should just do the same.
Garbage.
Indeed. Given how much criticism Moyes and Van Gaal get here, you'd think more people would be willing to entertain the idea that they might be the reason Mata failed to match his Chelsea form (despite actually having a better goals per game ratio here, I think).
His wage must be a big stumbling block for any Spanish or Italian side who is interested (though I doubt there's many).
Why do people think/know Ibra is getting his #8 jersey? Have I missed something?
Derisory springs to mind. But when do we ever sell players at a decent price?
There's a story floating around that he got nr. 8 but just speculating at this point.
http://talksport.com/football/evert...ns-react-shock-juan-mata-reports-160702201693
Sounds like mata's potentially going to everton. another report that Ibrahimovic asked what shirt number he'd play in in either the signing or press conference and some unnamed club guy said 8.
25 million? Bite their hand off! Sincerely doubt it though, we are too crap at selling players to pull that off. Won't mind him staying as a squad player though. Will be hilarious if he goes to Everton and does a Drinkwater
Disgusted over £5m?
Might be a carrot to sweeten the pot for a Stones bid.
I hope not.
Correlation & causation
Nor do I. If he goes, then its probably just a necessary move to lower the summer's net spend with a possible Pogba deal on the horizon.
What a load of crap. I'm pretty sure his CL medal, World Cup medal, European Championship medal would disagree with your analysis there fella.
I'll be a bit gutted. Always liked Juan.
How much was he involved in WC an EC triumphs? He was quality no doubt, but on a downward curve and he is not a player he was. He can't play on the wing and we will have other players vying for AMC position. He's on high wages so he cannot sit on a bench to be an inpact player for such wages so I really think it's a no brainer to sell him. But such a likeable fella.
35m or feck of Everton. If Troy "Na'vi" Deeney can cost 30m, why the lovely Mata will go for less? They got money now didn't they.
*Hugs to all!
*Hugs to all!
They've only got his highlights and goals in mind. They haven't just endured a season of him offering almost zero threat on the right wing.
I'd rather it was to sweeten a Pogba bid. Mata would too.
Remarkable. Page 7 without any solid links, starting from a known dodgy twitter source. Wonder how many pages we can get to before we receive a bid.
If it is Everton, then ask for 35m+ or no deal.
Best option is to include him as part of Pog's deal for Juve. They were interested for him not long ago. 60m pounds + Mata for Pogba would probably be a good deal for everyone involved.
Best option is to include him as part of Pog's deal for Juve. They were interested for him not long ago. 60m pounds + Mata for Pogba would probably be a good deal for everyone involved.
Yes agreed. I'd give them Mata, Fellaini, and Rojo in a heartbeat.
As a starter, Everton is closer to his level than a club aiming for titles year after year (which is what United is aiming for.)
The best he can really hope for is to be a bench player/impact substitute for a top side.
At Everton they'll just be so happy to have him and his goals that they'll be less bothered about his weaknesses.
Top managers building top sides will be bothered, however. Which is why he'd never get into a top side, and never has been in one.
He's not on 'bench player' wages, so it makes sense to sell if a good enough offer comes in. He'll probably be back at Valencia before long, whether he moves to Everton or not.
The best he can really hope for is to be a bench player/impact substitute for a top side.
At Everton they'll just be so happy to have him and his goals that they'll be less bothered about his weaknesses.
Top managers building top sides will be bothered, however. Which is why he'd never get into a top side, and never has been in one.
He's not on 'bench player' wages, so it makes sense to sell if a good enough offer comes in. He'll probably be back at Valencia before long, whether he moves to Everton or not.
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Yes pls!
All this talk about 'his Chelsea form'
He benefited from a couple of poor managers who never managed to get Chelsea playing serious football or playing with any decent balance. He also benefited from Terry, Ivanovic, Drogba, Cahill nodding in his set-pieces.
They were poor in the league until a proper manager came in and got rid of Mata.
He wasn't even a key man in their Champions League success (which people always bring up), which was achieved through good fortune as much as anything.
They were a better team in 14/15 than in the season they won the Champions League.
A proper manager aims for balance to his side, and Mata just doesn't do much to help with that. He can't dribble past people, can't shield the ball, is a 'final ball' player and not overly creative/skilled at picking locks. He does little to help defensively. He goes missing, and can be easily bullied into giving up possession and/or passing sideways and backwards.
Everton wont be bothered because he'll simply add goals/assists, but better teams/managers will care.
He benefited from a couple of poor managers who never managed to get Chelsea playing serious football or playing with any decent balance. He also benefited from Terry, Ivanovic, Drogba, Cahill nodding in his set-pieces.
They were poor in the league until a proper manager came in and got rid of Mata.
He wasn't even a key man in their Champions League success (which people always bring up), which was achieved through good fortune as much as anything.
They were a better team in 14/15 than in the season they won the Champions League.
A proper manager aims for balance to his side, and Mata just doesn't do much to help with that. He can't dribble past people, can't shield the ball, is a 'final ball' player and not overly creative/skilled at picking locks. He does little to help defensively. He goes missing, and can be easily bullied into giving up possession and/or passing sideways and backwards.
Everton wont be bothered because he'll simply add goals/assists, but better teams/managers will care.
you should know better than not to check anything out until we get at least 7 pages of a thread....such a rookie
I don't really understand why we're selling him and if we are 20m seems an absurdly low amount in the current market. 30m should be the bare minimum
I can see it being around £25m unless more than one club follows through with that interest to drive up the price.
Wouldn't surprise me if West Ham one of the others interested. Just a hunch more than anything.
Certainly hope West Ham are one as they'd surely bid £31m.
Exactly, they seem keen to secure a big name for this season (new stadium and all that) so hopefully they'll throw money at us for him.
Gets more money by not leaving at all.
What? We made money on Nani?We sold Hernandez for £7mNani for £4m
Atletico have a wage cap on players, they don't pay much and can't compete with the PL with their current system.
Everton have to offer more.
Everyone keeps writing Everton off. They have just been taken over and have a large transfer kitty, coupled with the fact they've got themselves a very good manager in. The team they have isn't half bad, with Mata in their ranks and a few other sensible additions they could be a threat to anyone next season.
Give them Rooney instead.