Out of the realms of possibility? No. What is your point - that the ref wanted to send someone off?
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Out of the realms of possibility? No. What is your point - that the ref wanted to send someone off?
That Dean (and this is Mike Dean we're talking about here - the man who has issued more red cards then any other ref this year) took the opportunity to send someone off.
Again, when you take into account the fact that it is Dean, and how he didn't caution other similar offences, it's hardly a bold statement. Mata was daft to give Dean the decision to make... but Dean absolutely didn't have to produce the yellow card - based on his own officiating in the very same game.
Ok, I don't believe that he had some type of agenda to send someone off but I don't mind that you do. For me, both cards issued to Mata are easily justified - when it comes to controversial red cards, this one hardly counts. Utter stupidity on Mata's part is far more annoying to me than some (crazy) theory that Mike Dean has different parameters for what is a yellow and what is a second yellow.
I was annoyed as anyone with his sending off but yet again, his detractors are just waiting for any excuse to put him to the top of our problem list.
He's far from it. Although I suppose Jose might still not fancy him.
He's far from it. Although I suppose Jose might still not fancy him.
Both cards were definitely justified.
In that sort of situation a referee will often use his discretion and give a warning rather than a second yellow though. Given the nature of the game, the type of fouls, the timing of the fouls and the player involved it would have been very reasonable to give Mata a final warning in that situation rather than send him off.
We were just unlucky that we had a card-happy ref who chose not to show any discretion this time. Mata still shouldn't have put him in that situation though.
In that sort of situation a referee will often use his discretion and give a warning rather than a second yellow though. Given the nature of the game, the type of fouls, the timing of the fouls and the player involved it would have been very reasonable to give Mata a final warning in that situation rather than send him off.
We were just unlucky that we had a card-happy ref who chose not to show any discretion this time. Mata still shouldn't have put him in that situation though.
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Someone needs to tell him he's not sent off.
Useless, luxury player why he stayed on his feet I don't know, go down stonewall penalty
His thread is usually bumped somewhat harshly. Surprised no one has come in today. Anonymous in that first half.
And some idiot made him captain of Man Utd..Pathetic
There is really not much point in playing him for a start if we are meant to play so defensive and not even try to get out of our half.
I don't understand how you can play him with Morgan and Fellaini. He keeps having to drop behind Fellaini to get the ball.
There is zero point in having Mata on the pitch in this kind of set-up... he doesn't have the pace to run the ball out himself, and he's got nobody to pass the ball to when he gets it because we're so deep. He's basically playing as a CM anyway as he's been dragged back into midfield as we've got deeper... so yeah, pointless.
Dont rate him at all, replacing him will be as important as replacing Rooney. Has the odd nice free kick and the odd tidy goal but nowhere near good enough to be our no 10. Just compare him to the likes of Ozil, Cazorla, Silva, de Bruyne, Coutinho, Isco, James, Gotze and even Mikhytaryan. Just no comparison. He misses that extra quality.
Only catching parts of the game but sounds like he was bad today. Now this is a fair time to criticise him, not when he's had a penalty saved or a one off red card. Knock yourselves out.
The most pointless player on the pitch.
so funny but so trueCriticism has been fair all season bar that stretch of the three games in the Midtjylland week.
Looks like a 14 year old out there at times, his lack of physique is shocking. Another nothing performance. I'll be delighted when Mourinho bins him.
Worst player on the pitch tonight.
Least inspiring United captain ever?
But but, he's a world class player.
Ripped off of 37 million pounds.
Ripped off of 37 million pounds.
He plays like this more often than not, that's the problem.
Absolutely awful. Van Gaal's tactics completely limited him (and the side) in the first half, and he completely limited himself in the second (whilst Van Gaal's tactics limited everyone else)
What annoys me is Herrera has proven time and time again he is built for these big games. Mata was gonna get bullied, it's so fecking obvious and it takes LVG 80 mins to realise it.
What the actual feck was he doing?
Nothing. If you're generous.
Unlucky not to get on tonight I thought, seemed strange to rest him since he's banned for Sunday.
He's going to be sold by Mourinho, I hope.
For a supposedly number 10, how the hell is he so slow and how is his awareness so inconsistent??
Even by his standards he looked fecking slow and weak tonight.
Terrible performance.
Terrible performance.
Uninspiring choice for captain. Didn't do much.
Criticising his performances is fine, even when I don't agree with it. OTT criticism for having a penalty saved or getting the one red card of his career is objectively stupid though.
Really poor.
I like Mata but he's just far too inconsistent and he has no middle ground with his performances, he's either good or completely useless, like "it looks as if we've got ten men", useless.
I was labelled "mental" by one poster for criticising him in the match day forum (comparing him to Joe Cole) but Mata just brings up bad memories of the pre-Fergie era. A skilful player bought for huge money who produces the odd great moment but ultimately is not able to consistently perform on the big stage despite looking good for a lesser team (as Chelsea were in that period). He's not our worst problem by any means but, based on cost and experience, he should be organising our attack.
No point discussing him when you give Fellaini and Morgan behind him. Morgan is not a great forward passer and Fellaini is rubbish. He wasn't effective but the link between defence and attack involved Fellaini as the more attacking CM. Its obvious he needs a positive footballer around him and had his best performances with herrera on the pitch
Taking a shit penalty deserves criticism as does getting stupidly sent off.
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