Not if people are holding those incidents up as proof that he isn't world class, is a bottler, is a coward, is useless, or should be sold. Even if you believe all those things, an incident as one off as a Juan Mata red card isn't evidence of anything given it doesn't reflect what he's like as a player at all.
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Not if people are holding those incidents up as proof that he isn't world class, is a bottler, is a coward, is useless, or should be sold. Even if you believe all those things, an incident as one off as a Juan Mata red card isn't evidence of anything given it doesn't reflect what he's like as a player at all.
It reflects him letting us down once again when we are just starting to build momentum. It reflects his career at us being one step forward, and then two steps back.
Should have gone down. Seriously, its bonkers he didnt even try to win that penalty.
Should have been subbed off much much earlier than he was. I have no idea where he was playing either.
Should have been subbed off much much earlier than he was. I have no idea where he was playing either.
He has no presence on the pitch. None. We're better with a paper bag floating in the wind.
Or you're twisting two mistakes countless players regularly make to suit your pre-existing narrative of Mata letting the team down.
People don't rate Mata, so anything bad he does becomes proof of why they're right not to rate Mata, even if those things have absolutely nothing to do with the actual flaws that made them not rate Mata in the first place.
I think one poster actually said we don't need "that sort of player" at the club after the red card. As if Mata suddenly turned into a Costa-Suarez lovechild. Like I said, that is objectively stupid criticism.
Couldn't believe it when I saw he was captain tonight.
The most uninspiring captain I could think of in that team.
I bet Scholes' rant was aimed at him in particular as well.
No fecking *hugs*, no fecking blogs, fecking start standing up & be counted, or get the feck out of the club you spineless twerp!
The most uninspiring captain I could think of in that team.
I bet Scholes' rant was aimed at him in particular as well.
No fecking *hugs*, no fecking blogs, fecking start standing up & be counted, or get the feck out of the club you spineless twerp!
Meanwhile, back in the real world where it isn't always bogbrush's fault.
This guy, Rooney or Carrick as captain. What chance do the young players really have?
So tired of this guy and his stupid, effete blogs about how "sad he is" and how "the team weren't good enough."
This guy, Rooney or Carrick as captain. What chance do the young players really have?
So tired of this guy and his stupid, effete blogs about how "sad he is" and how "the team weren't good enough."
He was poor today but so was everyone else, bar DDG. Our negative tactics and system made things difficult for him, and he's not much use when we barely have any possession.
Shit performance followed by a shitier blog apologizing for our shitiness, rinse and repeat.....That's 90% of his time with us.
Clear as day why Mourinho sold him.
Thinking about it more the choice to make him captain is just so strange. Another decision of LVG's that can be added to the 'didn't work' list.
Lmao at him being captain. One of the biggest cowards I've ever seen on a football pitch. £37.1 million. 
Lmao at him being captain. One of the biggest cowards I've ever seen on a football pitch. £37.1 million.
By that logic, I take that you would have loved Fellaini as the captain yesterday. Not a coward by any chance. Loves elbowing and stamping.
Nope. The fee for him is even more laughable. He's just a lumbering oaf who wins some headers. He's part of the reason our team is so rubbish. Probably not a coward, he's just nothing really.
This must be the thread with the biggest swings on the Caf.
Given the starting line up LvG had chosen, making Mata was not a bad call IMO. It was not of any use maybe. But it was not harmful.
Anyways the way the game was played by Mata and others made sure that who was the captain was the least of the problems.
Yet people will still make excuses for him. Clear to see not good enough for us. But currently the best 10 we have.
Yep Smalling should have been captain for me. LVG and his weird decisions, there are a million of them (Jones taking corners is up there) but last night we had our regular centre half playing left wing another centre half playing left back and so he puts on a midfielder and puts him at centre half! Idiot of a man.
Man Utd 1:1 Liverpool
What exactly is he playing?
He's done absolutely nothing in open play and put in 2 or 3 dogshit set pieces.
Woeful.
Woeful.
I don't get why he started on the right, I couldn't see any tactical reason for it, just LvG messing about as usual.
Can't wait until he's sold.
He's so useless apart from the odd free kick, really hope we sell him and get a proper no 10.
Rubbish again. Putting him on the right was criminal considering they'd be targeting the wings to counter attack and he offers feck all support.
Bad Mata is back again. I'd get rid in the summer.
Yep, someone with a bit of pace and acceleration and can do things like Coutinho just did.
One of the biggest disappointments for me this season, as far as individual players go, and he's not doing anything to change that impression tonight.
Bit anonymous thus far.
What was he supposed to be doing in that first half? Even his freekicks were shite.
He runs like he's under water.
Massive miss. Really poor from a player with his technique.
He's no Ozil or even Cazorla.
He's unreal, everything he touches turns into shit.
Don't get me started on this little turd.
Pathetic. Will carry Mourinho to Old Trafford on my back if it means Matas the first out the door.
Pathetic. Will carry Mourinho to Old Trafford on my back if it means Matas the first out the door.
Once again when we need him the most, he has been underwhelming. Basically all our good attacks are going past him, and he does not exactly construct our attacks.
I think it just was not to be for him at United. I like the player, liked him at Chelsea even, and you look at his stats, the goals he scored and assisted and he was not bad. But overall he looks out of place.
I think it just was not to be for him at United. I like the player, liked him at Chelsea even, and you look at his stats, the goals he scored and assisted and he was not bad. But overall he looks out of place.
My opinion on Mata is that people consider him very good because of his silky technique on the ball. Very overrated player and not good enough to be a central player for a top team.
Horrific match, we should sell him this summer asap and try and get Isco.
Gutless heartless paceless fecking hopeless
Are we allowed to have a go at him for this performance?
Just a poor player at this level, can't believe how much we paid for him.
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