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Here's the thing... If Mata wasn't already on a booking, do you think he would have got a first booking for that challenge?
As it was his first foul and he just mistimed kicking the ball, I'm almost certain Dean would have just given him a warning... considering we saw Blind kick someone in the head a few minutes before that and he didn't get a card.
So why didn't Blind get booked for kicking someone in the head?
Yeah really difficult one Rado, but I think I'd order your view myself. It's very frustrating when you see blatant yellows not given because it's either too early or the player is already booked etc. it's one of my pet hates in football. Yesterday for instance, ref sends off Coq but bottles the Dier decision.
It's not the refs job to "keep the match 11 v 11". Agreed. I think the refs have just sat a precedent through the ages.
Maybe, but given the stupidity of both cards, it's difficult to give Mata any sympathy. Bit of a cliche but don't give the ref a decision like that to make.
I don't know the incident you're referring to, I missed most of the first half and only saw the Mata incidents on HT replays, but an incorrect call elsewhere doesn't change the fact that the calls on Mata were right.
Can't argue with that, and it's that side of things that should change.
Because referees are often woefully inconsistent. I'd say Mata's was fairly borderline, in that a more lenient ref would've given a warning even without a prior booking, but it's still a relatively fair yellow and we can have little cause for complaint. Of course, though, the problem is that certain ref's would view it differently, and refs will make poor/inconsistent decisions.
The reason it's a problem is the difference between different referees. Dean sends off Mata, fine, letter of the law and that. But then yesterday in the Arsenal v Spurs match there wouldn't have been any players left if those challenges were yellows.
I wonder if the coaches prep the players on what ref is in charge. If not, they should.
I wonder if the coaches prep the players on what ref is in charge. If not, they should.
feck off Mata! All that momentum and spirit down the drain.
Real talk though, as deserving as Mata is of criticism this season, one misjudged tackled while on a booking can definitely be overlooked.
As poor as it was from him, I'm not sure his sending off did anything to our momentum or spirit. We'd been fairly dire in the early stages of the game too.
This ones on him. Put his team mates under the cosh for no reason.
He's a liability defensively. He's not a leader. Always fluffs under the slightest bit of pressure. No attacking threat. Terrible performances bar the odd game.
Complete failure as a United player.
But he writes blogs and hugs so we can forgive him for his ineptitude.
With how we started the game, and our away record... Did you really see us winning this game even with 11 men?
Cost us the game today with his stupidity.
I really want to punch him. ENjoyed that from your VIP seat up there you cnut?
I'm sick of senior team players letting us down time and time again. If that would have happened to a youngster I could understand it but not to a player as experienced as Mata and not like this.
He pulled out of the kick. Never a second yellow.
Terrible refereeing...
Terrible refereeing...
Blind mis-judges trying to kick the ball and kicks someone in the head.... no booking.
Craig Gardner slides in on Lingard and wipes him clean out, stopping him from putting a threatening (ha! Lingard!) cross into the box... no booking.
Juan Mata misjudges kicking the ball and trips Darren Fletcher, whilst trying to pull out of the challenge... and he's in his own half with players around him... second booking and a red card.
It's complete bullshit. Dean would not have booked Mata for that challenge had he not already been booked. He didn't send him off because he had too, he sent him off because he wanted too.
Craig Gardner slides in on Lingard and wipes him clean out, stopping him from putting a threatening (ha! Lingard!) cross into the box... no booking.
Juan Mata misjudges kicking the ball and trips Darren Fletcher, whilst trying to pull out of the challenge... and he's in his own half with players around him... second booking and a red card.
It's complete bullshit. Dean would not have booked Mata for that challenge had he not already been booked. He didn't send him off because he had too, he sent him off because he wanted too.
Very stupid from him, tbf.
Oh I should say that it's definitely stupid from him... I realise he's trying to kick the ball, but no need to even attempt it in that situation.
However, Dean absolutely did not have to send him off... based on his own refereeing of other similar incidents within the same game of football.
Stupid and out of character sending off. We struggle enough with 11 men, winning with 10 was never going to happen.
I am of the opinion that the second yellow didn't need to be given by Mike Dean. It was Mata's first foul, not that reckless or dangerous, he was trying to play the ball and West Brom weren't on the break. This doesn't mean that Mata wasn't stupid to put the ref in a position like that, but we are talking about a player who has never been sent off in his career before. A final warning to Mata would have been enough.
Was it really two yellows in two minutes?
Stupid from Mata but both incidents would probably only be a yellow card 50% of the time. When already on a yellow that second challenge would probably only get someone sent off 10% of the time.
Either incident in isolation should have resulted in a warning, particularly the second when he was already on a booking.
It's Mike Dean though... I'd like to think managers prep their team for referees who are as interested in making headlines as they are officiating games. He's the worst ref in the League and has been for years.
Either incident in isolation should have resulted in a warning, particularly the second when he was already on a booking.
It's Mike Dean though... I'd like to think managers prep their team for referees who are as interested in making headlines as they are officiating games. He's the worst ref in the League and has been for years.
Although Mata did pull out he shouldnt even have attempted it in the first place. Thats a very dangerous tackle and if he had mistimed it or didnt pull out sooner that could have been a serious injury for either player.
I dont hate Mata since he rarely does this but it sucks. Reminded me of Smallings stupid red against City.
I dont hate Mata since he rarely does this but it sucks. Reminded me of Smallings stupid red against City.
It was stupid but it didn't cost us the game IMO, our style of play is what hurt us yet again, we had plenty of the ball in the second half but the rigidity in the forward line and sloth-like midfield meant we never turned West Brom around.
The only thing that really irritated me was how blase he was about it, although I'm sure he'll write a blog tomorrow aplogising to his crew of mancrushers.
The only thing that really irritated me was how blase he was about it, although I'm sure he'll write a blog tomorrow aplogising to his crew of mancrushers.
im with you, its a joke of a red as most are this days...fecking no contact sport, makes me sick. But nevertheless, Mata should really know better so it was a pretty stupid card to receive. Shame as he started the game really well.....
Come on. You can't really believe this.
It's easy to believe when you consider a) how we started the game and b) our away record.
I do, and it has nothing to do with the Mata love that goes on here, check back and you'll see I am one of his biggest critics. We had lots of the ball in the second half and did nothing with it, that's on us, and the defending on the goal was amateur hour, it wasn't as if we spent 60 minutes manning the fences after he went off.
Many players are having their careers cut short or losing their prime years due to injuries...and you want the sport to be even more physical?
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Agree with this. It was poor refereeing imo but very typical of Mike Dean who always wants to be centre of attention. I seen similar or worse fouls in the game without bookings and can't see why a final warning wouldn't hav sufficed for what was quite a nothing tackle that Mata tried his best to pull out of
Someone DDOS Mata's computer tonight so he can't upload his blog. Stupid moron.
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